A lot of people, especially Britney's father, are profiting from her career as a pop star. At first she was a minor, so her father controlled her wealth. Then she was worked over until she was declared mentally ill, so he took conservatorship over her wealth. She's a middle-aged woman now. She should control her own wealth. I can't believe she is still bound by a mental episode that happened over decade ago. Unless she's too unstable to control her own well-being, then have it declared so. There are legal remedies to that kind of situation, if this is what it is.

Another problem is, I think there are others about to profit if her conservatorship ends too.

On 6/24/2021 at 11:57 AM, Boogyman said:

It's also for fathers who want to leech off their wealthy kids apparently.

 

On 6/24/2021 at 11:58 AM, jsdarkstar said:

Yeah, he gets $16,000 per month, and 2-3% of all her earnings. It's no wonder why he has kept her a prisoner for 13 years. Money.

Which is doubly messed up because if he just acted like a nice dad, what kid wouldn’t voluntarily throw her parents a good chunk of cash?  It’s not about money it’s about power and control.  The abuse she must’ve put up with... I can only imagine

8 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

 

Which is doubly messed up because if he just acted like a nice dad, what kid wouldn’t voluntarily throw her parents a good chunk of cash?  It’s not about money it’s about power and control.  The abuse she must’ve put up with... I can only imagine

Or maybe the relationship sucked from the beginning and he didn't think she would "cut him in"? Who knows.

On 6/26/2021 at 10:54 AM, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

 

Which is doubly messed up because if he just acted like a nice dad, what kid wouldn’t voluntarily throw her parents a good chunk of cash?  It’s not about money it’s about power and control.  The abuse she must’ve put up with... I can only imagine

 

On 6/26/2021 at 11:03 AM, Boogyman said:

Or maybe the relationship sucked from the beginning and he didn't think she would "cut him in"? Who knows.

Either way it's her money, not his. If my kids suddenly became millionaires I would not expect any money from them. Parents are to help kids , not the other way around. At least not unless her parents were unable to take care of themselves.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

 

Either way it's her money, not his. If my kids suddenly became millionaires I would not expect any money from them. Parents are to help kids , not the other way around. At least not unless her parents were unable to take care of themselves.

Interesting you bring this up, as 30 states including PA require kids to take care of "indigent” parents and nursing homes can sue kids for unpaid bills

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Interesting you bring this up, as 30 states including PA require parents to take care of "indigent” parents and nursing homes can sue kids for unpaid bills

Do you mean "children" take care of their parents?

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Interesting you bring this up, as 30 states including PA require kids to take care of "indigent” parents and nursing homes can sue kids for unpaid bills

I mean children shouldn't let their parents starve or live on the streets (if they can help it) but parents being parasites in my book is a big no no.

On 6/28/2021 at 10:02 AM, greend said:

I mean children shouldn't let their parents starve or live on the streets (if they can help it) but parents being parasites in my book is a big no no.

We have some married friends (believe it or not), and his parents told him and his brothers that they were going to spend everything they had, so to not count on an inheritance.  Now that they're old, and unable to work, that strategy has proven disastrous, and they have nothing saved to pay for anything beyond food.  Not even housing, as our friends brother actually bought their house from the bank so that they didn't get kicked out.  I respect that their kids have stepped in to help, but I see no reason that the law should force them to.  Their situation is completely of their own making.

13 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

We have some married friends (believe it or not), and his parents told him and his brothers that they were going to spend everything they had, so to not count on an inheritance.  Now that they're old, and unable to work, that strategy has proven disastrous, and they have nothing saved to pay for anything beyond food.  Not even housing, as our friends brother actually bought their house from the bank so that they didn't get kicked out.  I respect that their kids have stepped in to help, but I see no reason that the law should force them to.  Their situation is completely of their own making.

I actually keep encouraging my parents to spend it all since I don't need/want it. If they did ever miscalculate, I'd obviously help them. But, their house is completely paid off, so that removes a lot of potential risk.

12 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

We have some married friends (believe it or not), and his parents told him and his brothers that they were going to spend everything they had, so to not count on an inheritance.  Now that they're old, and unable to work, that strategy has proven disastrous, and they have nothing saved to pay for anything beyond food.  Not even housing, as our friends brother actually bought their house from the bank so that they didn't get kicked out.  I respect that their kids have stepped in to help, but I see no reason that the law should force them to.  Their situation is completely of their own making.

The brother that bought the house back from the bank, hopefully set it so so the parents should be paying him rent, and/or that is his inheritance when the property is sold after their deaths.

I am really hoping to just drop dead one day. I have everything ready, other than living beyond what I have saved -becoming disabled-or demented.  If these things happen, I have instructed my kids they are not to take care of me, just assist in getting me qualified for Medicaid and off I go to some God forsaken home.

My wife and I are by far the wealthiest in both our families. We already talked and agreed we would help out the older members on both sides if and when needed.

6 minutes ago, DiPros said:

The brother that bought the house back from the bank, hopefully set it so so the parents should be paying him rent, and/or that is his inheritance when the property is sold after their deaths.

I am really hoping to just drop dead one day. I have everything ready, other than living beyond what I have saved -becoming disabled-or demented.  If these things happen, I have instructed my kids they are not to take care of me, just assist in getting me qualified for Medicaid and off I go to some God forsaken home.

Honestly, I don't even like my parents that much, but I couldn't allow that to happen to them. I'd pay whatever it takes for homecare, food, medical, etc. They raised me and put me through college with no debt. I owe them that much. 

I try and do little things for them. When they went to Vegas a couple months ago (vaccination celebration), I upgraded their room and flights. Stuff like that.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I actually keep encouraging my parents to spend it all since I don't need/want it. If they did ever miscalculate, I'd obviously help them. But, their house is completely paid off, so that removes a lot of potential risk.

These two didn't even calculate, much less miscalculate.

Just now, The_Omega said:

These two didn't even calculate, much less miscalculate.

My dad takes GREAT pride in the fact that he came here as an immigrant, put his kids through college with no loans, and was able to retire comfortably. He obsesses on making sure that they have more than enough to maintain an enjoyable life. He wants to leave something meaningful to me and my brother even thought we don't need it. It's a real point of pride for him, which I understand. That's why I try and do things for them now -- he would never pay for 1st class, or a suite. But if I upgrade him, he enjoys it and then still "leaves" me an inheritance. 

Works for everyone.

I really don't envy any of you much younger than me to know the hundreds of scenarios that could play out with aging parents.  I never even knew there is such a thing as  Certified Elder Care Attorney's.  Sometimes things get complicated, and emotions run high.  It can be be quite trying.

My youngest brother (and the smartest) was POA for our parents.  He did a wonderful job and helped with the caregiving of the parent that was left, and then cleaned all that up when that parent died.  It's hell cleaning out a house and selling your childhood home.  I did get a nice little bit of money afterwards-to me anyway-still a poorer by vikas's standards.   I used it to get out of debt completely. I still had some left last year when Mr. Di passed so I was able to just write a check for our burial plots and the funeral director without having to assign them the insurance policy.  Thanks Mom and Dad.  They literally took care of me for 59 years!

The biggest "fight" I have with my dad is over their house. They have a ~6,500 square foot house on over an acre of land for just the 2 of them. Dad bought it AFTER we were out of the house, thinking it would be a place where kids/grandkids/etc. all congregate. But I live in LA and have no children, and my brother has 2 girls but lives in NYC. So we almost never go there. But dad keeps going outside and doing the yardwork, the landscaping, shoveling snow, etc. He's 77 years old now.

I have tried to get him to sell and downsize, but he won't. I have hired landscapers, but he fires them. The man is just stubborn sometimes.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The biggest "fight" I have with my dad is over their house. They have a ~6,500 square foot house on over an acre of land for just the 2 of them. Dad bought it AFTER we were out of the house, thinking it would be a place where kids/grandkids/etc. all congregate. But I live in LA and have no children, and my brother has 2 girls but lives in NYC. So we almost never go there. But dad keeps going outside and doing the yardwork, the landscaping, shoveling snow, etc. He's 77 years old now.

I have tried to get him to sell and downsize, but he won't. I have hired landscapers, but he fires them. The man is just stubborn sometimes.

That's funny. We just moved into a much larger home this spring, and there is an older Indian couple to the left of me with an almost identical home as ours. It's like 5000 square feet for just him and his wife. Very occasionally one of their kids and his family visits but they never stay. The wife and I talked and when we retire and leave NJ we will definitely buy a smaller home than what we have now.

8 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

That's funny. We just moved into a much larger home this spring, and there is an older Indian couple to the left of me with an almost identical home as ours. It's like 5000 square feet for just him and his wife. Very occasionally one of their kids and his family visits but they never stay. The wife and I talked and when we retire and leave NJ we will definitely buy a smaller home than what we have now.

I mean, it's not like I have room to talk that much. My house is the same square footage, and it's just me, the wife and 2 dogs. But we have landscapers, a maid, maintenance people, etc. Also, we're not in our 70s. 

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean, it's not like I have room to talk that much. My house is the same square footage, and it's just me, the wife and 2 dogs. But we have landscapers, a maid, maintenance people, etc. Also, we're not in our 70s. 

Yeah the age thing probably matters. Even with the 2 kids I have 2 extra bedrooms and tons of space I dont really need. But we have guests over very often, hell even when I have friends from work over we often all get ish faced and so they stay. So I use the extra room.

The couple I spoke of is pretty much the only people who ever are in that home. Seems odd to me but maybe they just like the area and don't see the point in moving if they still want to be in the same area? I dunno. Maybe I live next to your parents lol.

vikas that's great, just keep an eye on them when you can. I'm certain you do.   I bet you love those phone calls from the landscapers asking for their money, and oh by the way, your Dad told us not to come back.

I hired visiting angels just 3 hours, 3 days per week to give Mr. Di's step Dad, and the family a break from taking care of  the mother in-law (dementia) and she would keep sending them away.  For a time I  had a med-minder hooked up for her.  It was only like $10. a month. I know you can take your pills Mom, this just helps you remember, when the light is blinking open the lid and take your meds.  An alarm would go off if she didn't after 30 minutes or whatever time you set it to.  This went well for a few months and she had a sense of  independence.  After a brief hospital visit though she lost the concept.  My phone kept going off every single day she was either missing, or turning it off.  One day she had pills and the entire machine ripped apart.  That was the end of that.  I didn't want her feeling bad, so I told her I think it's just broke I'll just take it away.  She said it was hit by lighting, so I went with that.

My folks downsized their house but paid to add a separate in-law suite to all their kids' homes. It's a good strategy. Obviously not something you can do in a major city though. 

20 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The biggest "fight" I have with my dad is over their house. They have a ~6,500 square foot house on over an acre of land for just the 2 of them. Dad bought it AFTER we were out of the house, thinking it would be a place where kids/grandkids/etc. all congregate. But I live in LA and have no children, and my brother has 2 girls but lives in NYC. So we almost never go there. But dad keeps going outside and doing the yardwork, the landscaping, shoveling snow, etc. He's 77 years old now.

I have tried to get him to sell and downsize, but he won't. I have hired landscapers, but he fires them. The man is just stubborn sometimes.

My parents keep talking about selling their house and moving into something smaller, but then summer rolls around, and he's sees my youngest swimming in their pool, and he puts that idea aside for another year.  Actually, both my parents, and the inlaws, were talking about moving into retirement communities, but the draconian restrictions caused by Covid has completely destroyed those notions. 

2 hours ago, The_Omega said:

We have some married friends (believe it or not), and his parents told him and his brothers that they were going to spend everything they had, so to not count on an inheritance.  Now that they're old, and unable to work, that strategy has proven disastrous, and they have nothing saved to pay for anything beyond food.  Not even housing, as our friends brother actually bought their house from the bank so that they didn't get kicked out.  I respect that their kids have stepped in to help, but I see no reason that the law should force them to.  Their situation is completely of their own making.

Agree

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Honestly, I don't even like my parents that much, but I couldn't allow that to happen to them. I'd pay whatever it takes for homecare, food, medical, etc. They raised me and put me through college with no debt. I owe them that much. 

I try and do little things for them. When they went to Vegas a couple months ago (vaccination celebration), I upgraded their room and flights. Stuff like that.

I love my kids and grandkids, but I wonder if my kids feel like you and don't like me very much. I was a strict Dad, but I always thought that I had their best interest at heart. I mean they seem to like doing things with me, but ya never know.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

My dad takes GREAT pride in the fact that he came here as an immigrant, put his kids through college with no loans, and was able to retire comfortably. He obsesses on making sure that they have more than enough to maintain an enjoyable life. He wants to leave something meaningful to me and my brother even thought we don't need it. It's a real point of pride for him, which I understand. That's why I try and do things for them now -- he would never pay for 1st class, or a suite. But if I upgrade him, he enjoys it and then still "leaves" me an inheritance. 

Works for everyone.

What's his polo collection like?