February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: Yes he did, along with everyone else, unless you are saying he was the only one that could have stopped it. Trump was the leader and the one with the most power to intervene. His lack of action itself disqualifies him as a legitimate candidate for POTUS again regardless of whether he planned any of the Jan 6 crap or not.
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: Believe what you want, your thoughts on it have no bearing on anything. Your thoughts, on a football message board mean nothing and it's pathetic that you think they do. That the most words I've ever seen someone use to say "I don't care" lmao.
February 9, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Trump was the leader and the one with the most power to intervene. His lack of action itself disqualifies him as a legitimate candidate for POTUS again regardless of whether he planned any of the Jan 6 crap or not. That day was just more evidence that Trump has zero leadership skills.
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: I would say we can safely assume this wasn't a huge planned event as there would have been 'leaks' and it would have been stopped. It literally was a huge planned event. Trump promoted it for weeks. The entire right promoted it, talked about how they were going to stop the steal, etc. What in God's name are you talking about?
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: settle down there pal, you were ok with trumps election lies and his attempts to overthrow the legitimate 2020 results, because he had his arse handed to him by uncle mumbles, but then you cry about this.
February 9, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: so afraid to admit your hero lost to uncle mumbles .... oh how your days must be filled with anger, stress and soiled depends. btw - zero evidence to your claims. just sayin
February 9, 20241 yr If the choice is between a doddering old man with recall issues and a traitorous scumbag who gleefully watched his supporters overrun the Capitol and truly hoped they would succeed in keeping him in power by intimidating Congress as terrorists, it's not a difficult choice.
February 9, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: so afraid to admit your hero lost to uncle mumbles .... oh how your days must be filled with anger, stress and soiled depends. btw - zero evidence to your claims. just sayin That's not fair. It's a classy establishment. They change his diapers pretty quick.
February 9, 20241 yr Author 32 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If the choice is between a doddering old man with recall issues and a traitorous scumbag who gleefully watched his supporters overrun the Capitol and truly hoped they would succeed in keeping him in power by intimidating Congress as terrorists, it's not a difficult choice. Important to remember that Biden was openly supportive of Summer of Floyd riots and his VP pick literally posted links to bail funds for violent arsonists in Minneapolis.
February 9, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Do you think what Trump did was illegal in the months after the election, yes or no? It's a simple question.
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Boogyman said: That day was just more evidence that Trump has zero leadership skills. So you argue that he lead the MAGAs to the insurrection and then say he has no leadership skills because he didn't stop it? I agree, great leaders get their followers to do what they say and then make them stop doing what they were told to do. You read about all the great leaders in history and the one thing that is common is that they routinely change their mind and reverse course on their decisions. Usually it's just a test to make sure their followers will actually go through with what they say - kind of like drinking the Kool-Aid. So, would you say that cult leaders have good leadership skills?
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If the choice is between a doddering old man with recall issues and a traitorous scumbag who gleefully watched his supporters overrun the Capitol and truly hoped they would succeed in keeping him in power by intimidating Congress as terrorists, it's not a difficult choice. Well, maybe there will be a third choice that everyone can agree on. Doubtful though even if it is a clear better choice the Democrats and Republicans are so dug in it won't change the outcome.
February 9, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: So you argue that he lead the MAGAs to the insurrection and then say he has no leadership skills because he didn't stop it? I agree, great leaders get their followers to do what they say and then make them stop doing what they were told to do. You read about all the great leaders in history and the one thing that is common is that they routinely change their mind and reverse course on their decisions. Usually it's just a test to make sure their followers will actually go through with what they say - kind of like drinking the Kool-Aid. So, would you say that cult leaders have good leadership skills? No, I'd say cult followers are very easily manipulated, and anyone of even average intelligence can see right through the grift. That's where you get lost in all this, sorry.
February 9, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Do you think what Trump did was illegal in the months after the election, yes or no? It's a simple question. @GreenReaper, nothing?
February 9, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, GreenReaper said: Yes he did, along with everyone else, unless you are saying he was the only one that could have stopped it. Not great that nobody else in the entire government or law enforcement saw this coming. I would say we can safely assume this wasn't a huge planned event as there would have been 'leaks' and it would have been stopped. Maybe the Libtards are wrong and the MAGA folks are much smarter and were able to avoid detection until it was almost too late. Trump certainly should have conducted himself in a much different way and unfortunately he didn't. Is he a mastermind that planned an insurrection, I don't think so. Does anyone really believe he would be able to change the election results (other than Trump and some crazy followers)? Should he be on a ballot? I don't know, what has he been convicted of that would remove him from a ballot? Should Biden be allowed on the ballot? He appears, and has appeared for some time, incompetent to hold the office but just because I feel that way doesn't mean I think he should be removed from the ballot. This could have been avoided if the justice system would have arrested Trump for his insurrection and had him convicted. If it is so clear that this is what he has done we shouldn't be at this point. Sadly, Republicans have, to this point, selected him as their candidate and Democrats have sadly selected Biden as their candidate so this is where we are. Convict Trump of insurrection and he can be off the ballot, not sure what can be done to get Biden off the ballot. He did nothing for hours. Hours. He watched and let it happen. The only reason this does not piss you off, is because you care nothing about law, and only care that your side wins. Not that you side with Trump, of course, you deny that. Which begs the question, WTF are you up to? Why do you think the president did nothing while the people HE TOLD TO GO TO THE CAPITOL AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK did just that, trying to stop the vote certification?
February 9, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Boogyman said: No, I'd say cult followers are very easily manipulated, and anyone of even average intelligence can see right through the grift. That's where you get lost in all this, sorry. I agree, there is a large cult of easily manipulated followers that thought Biden was mentally capable of running the country. It's not clear to outsiders who is actually pulling the strings on the Biden cult but he is the figurehead of the group. Now there are 2 very large cults hoping their leader wins the election. There may be a smaller middle cult voting for someone not called Trump or Biden.
February 9, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: I agree. You could have stopped there and answered the simple question you were asked earlier and refuse to answer. Instead, you used your time to reply to me on something you earlier said you didn't care about. That's very telling, Not-A-Trump-Supporter.
February 9, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Toastrel said: He did nothing for hours. Hours. He watched and let it happen. The only reason this does not piss you off, is because you care nothing about law, and only care that your side wins. Not that you side with Trump, of course, you deny that. Which begs the question, WTF are you up to? Why do you think the president did nothing while the people HE TOLD TO GO TO THE CAPITOL AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK did just that, trying to stop the vote certification? That's rich, Biden broke the law with the documents yet you don't care because your side won. He clearly was involved in business with his son but that is also defended. I don't see you calling for him to be arrested, impeached, etc. He took the classified documents back in 2017 when he shouldn't even have had them. So, you either care about the law or you only care about the law when it comes to prosecuting the guys you don't like. Why can't they both be prosecuted and treated equally. Oh, because one is an old drooling fool he gets a pass? Trump absolutely should have done something on January 6th but he didn't. He also said to peacefully and patriotically protest. Breaking into the capital is not what I consider peaceful. Trump should have conceded and thanked the crowd for their support and told them to go home. We'll see how the courts feel about his actions in the upcoming year(s) depending on what he gets charged with. Should he be removed from the ballot before being convicted? Should states have a say on who is or isn't on the ballot?
February 9, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: That's rich, Biden broke the law with the documents yet you don't care because your side won. He clearly was involved in business with his son but that is also defended. I don't see you calling for him to be arrested, impeached, etc. He took the classified documents back in 2017 when he shouldn't even have had them. So, you either care about the law or you only care about the law when it comes to prosecuting the guys you don't like. Why can't they both be prosecuted and treated equally. Oh, because one is an old drooling fool he gets a pass? Trump absolutely should have done something on January 6th but he didn't. He also said to peacefully and patriotically protest. Breaking into the capital is not what I consider peaceful. Trump should have conceded and thanked the crowd for their support and told them to go home. We'll see how the courts feel about his actions in the upcoming year(s) depending on what he gets charged with. Should he be removed from the ballot before being convicted? Should states have a say on who is or isn't on the ballot? 4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Do you think what Trump did was illegal in the months after the election, yes or no? It's a simple question.
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