October 12, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: Which was a policy started by Trump. So much so that he insisted putting his name on each check. Yet it didn't stop you from voting for him. You're debating the symptom. I'm bringing attention to the cause.
October 12, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, The Norseman said: You're debating the symptom. I'm bringing attention to the cause. I would welcome multiple political parties. The democrats ****s, but they at least think we should have elections (where our votes count and whoever gets more votes should win) and term limits which makes them infinitely better than the other option. If both parties are for giving away free money, which they are, then its not really an issue. Meanwhile in PA, we literally have a candidate for governor who wants to wipe out all voter registrations, and has said that if we don't vote for Trump in 2024, all our electoral votes are going for Trump anyway. Likewise, Oz would just be a rubber stamp for Trump (who again paid people not to work), should Trump ever regain the presidency.
October 12, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: So job growth is fake because the government handed out a bunch of free money to people to stay home on the heels of a pandemic, but inflation is real because Biden bad and not at all for the exact same reasons as the former. Logical consistency is duly noted. I have no idea what point you are trying to make, but if it's that the pandemic and all the stimulus spent during it was a major contributor to inflation then I'd agree with you. Unemployment spiked during the pandemic and now is coming back to where it was prior to the pandemic. That's not job growth. 14 hours ago, Gannan said: I would welcome multiple political parties. The democrats ****s, but they at least think we should have elections (where our votes count and whoever gets more votes should win) and term limits which makes them infinitely better than the other option. If both parties are for giving away free money, which they are, then its not really an issue. Meanwhile in PA, we literally have a candidate for governor who wants to wipe out all voter registrations, and has said that if we don't vote for Trump in 2024, all our electoral votes are going for Trump anyway. Likewise, Oz would just be a rubber stamp for Trump (who again paid people not to work), should Trump ever regain the presidency. You're so lost in your own nonsense you can't even stay on topic.
October 12, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: You're so lost in your own nonsense you can't even stay on topic. We are talking about the mid terms. I live in PA. The mid terms for me are about Fetterman and Shapiro. I've conceded that those of us who live in Bucks are stuck with Fitzpatrick for the foreseeable future.
October 12, 20223 yr Have any of the candidates weighed in on the issue of blood avocados yet? I thought not.
October 13, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: Have any of the candidates weighed in on the issue of blood avocados yet? I thought not. Personally, I think they taste better
October 13, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: The Trump Party solution? cut corporate taxes and cut the taxes of those making $250,000 or more without funding it, and making the rest of America pay for it. The rest arent paying. Thats the problem
October 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: The rest arent paying. Thats the problem Yeah, it only added a Trillion dollars to the Deficit. No biggie.
October 13, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Yeah, it only added a Trillion dollars to the Deficit. No biggie. Irrelevant to what i said
October 13, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, The Norseman said: I have no idea what point you are trying to make, but if it's that the pandemic and all the stimulus spent during it was a major contributor to inflation then I'd agree with you. Unemployment spiked during the pandemic and now is coming back to where it was prior to the pandemic. That's not job growth. Putting aside the fact that this is a ridiculous argument since you're inexplicably placing your 'job growth' starting point at nearly a year before the current administration was in place, you're also just flat wrong about job gains. Unemployments not 'coming back' to where it was pre-pandemic, it's already back. We regained the pandemic losses as of July and in the past 2 months we've added around half a million jobs. Fact is, Biden's job record has been exceptional and that's not even debatable.
October 13, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Putting aside the fact that this is a ridiculous argument since you're inexplicably placing your 'job growth' starting point at nearly a year before the current administration was in place, you're also just flat wrong about job gains. Unemployments not 'coming back' to where it was pre-pandemic, it's already back. We regained the pandemic losses as of July and in the past 2 months we've added around half a million jobs. Fact is, Biden's job record has been exceptional and that's not even debatable. Unemployment was at 3.5% in Feb 2020...then spiked up to 14.7% by April 2020. It is now back to 3.5%. So yes, it's debatable.
October 13, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Unemployment was at 3.5% in Feb 2020...then spiked up to 14.7% by April 2020. It is now back to 3.5%. So yes, it's debatable. Half a million jobs gained a month since he took office. 10 million jobs gained in less than 2 years. He's been the best jobs president ever by a wide margin.
October 13, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Half a million jobs gained a month since he took office. 10 million jobs gained in less than 2 years. He's been the best jobs president ever by a wide margin. Yea, because of the pandemic. We are literally exactly where we were prior to Covid. Any Joe Biden "job growth" numbers have merely been people returning to work.
October 13, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Yea, because of the pandemic. We are literally exactly where we were prior to Covid. Any Joe Biden "job growth" numbers have merely been people returning to work. Yes, if all those jobs hadn't been lost during Trump's administration they wouldn't have been gained back under Biden. Sucks that Trump was such a failure. But none of that changes the fact that Biden's been the best jobs President in history by far. And, again, we're not 'exactly where we were prior to Covid'. We've gained over half a million jobs in the last two months, an average of somewhere around 280K a month, which would well surpass the average monthly job gain of any year of the Trump presidency.
October 13, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Yes, if all those jobs hadn't been lost during Trump's administration they wouldn't have been gained back under Biden. Sucks that Trump was such a failure. But none of that changes the fact that Biden's been the best jobs President in history by far. And, again, we're not 'exactly where we were prior to Covid'. We've gained over half a million jobs in the last two months, an average of somewhere around 280K a month, which would well surpass the average monthly job gain of any year of the Trump presidency. aaand we're back under the cozy warm blanket of Trump bashing hysteria...which, of course...has nothing to do with any of this.
October 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: aaand we're back under the cozy warm blanket of Trump bashing hysteria...which, of course...has nothing to do with any of this. Using a catastrophe that took place during the Trump years as the backbone of your argument and then clutching your pearls when his name is mentioned is very on-brand for a Republican. And the fact remains, Biden's been the best jobs President we've ever had. Did circumstances help him achieve that goal? Of course, but circumstances effect everything any President has done. They're all men of their time.
October 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: aaand we're back under the cozy warm blanket of Trump bashing hysteria...which, of course...has nothing to do with any of this. Lol, Trump is irrelevant to the midterms. Quite the take there.
October 13, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Lol, Trump is irrelevant to the midterms. Quite the take there. Actually, his take is even worse. It's that every time we mention what a rousing success Biden's been on jobs, we have to simultaneously mention the pandemic, but we're not allowed to mention the name of the President during the pandemic.
October 13, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Using a catastrophe that took place during the Trump years as the backbone of your argument and then clutching your pearls when his name is mentioned is very on-brand for a Republican. And the fact remains, Biden's been the best jobs President we've ever had. Did circumstances help him achieve that goal? Of course, but circumstances effect everything any President has done. They're all men of their time. Ok, I'll play this nonsensical game. So, if we give Joe credit for the 10 million jobs he "created" over the last two years, will he also be taking credit for the increases in unemployment that will surely come as a result of the inflationary effect on corporate earnings? The FED has all but said they want to see an impact to the job market. That'll be on Joe too, right?
October 13, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Actually, his take is even worse. It's that every time we mention what a rousing success Biden's been on jobs, we have to simultaneously mention the pandemic, but we're not allowed to mention the name of the President during the pandemic. I'm merely saying that 10 million jobs were not created over the last two years as a result of Biden's policies. The large majority of them were people returning to work organically. I honestly don't even know why you're arguing this.
October 13, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, The Norseman said: Ok, I'll play this nonsensical game. So, if we give Joe credit for the 10 million jobs he "created" over the last two years, will he also be taking credit for the increases in unemployment that will surely come as a result of the inflationary effect on corporate earnings? The FED has all but said they want to see an impact to the job market. That'll be on Joe too, right? Are you asking will Biden be blamed if we start losing jobs? No, I'm sure the Republicans will show great restraint, logically thinking through the circumstances that caused the losses and come to the conclusion that they don't want to use any economic hardship the American people were feeling as a cheap political weapon.
October 13, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I'm merely saying that 10 million jobs were not created over the last two years as a result of Biden's policies. The large majority of them were people returning to work organically. I honestly don't even know why you're arguing this. How many?
October 13, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I'm merely saying that 10 million jobs were not created over the last two years as a result of Biden's policies. The large majority of them were people returning to work organically. I honestly don't even know why you're arguing this. I guess if it helps you sleep at night believing that Biden shouldn't get credit for job growth, then keep at it, but none of it changes what an unprecedented success he's been as a job creator.
October 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: aaand we're back under the cozy warm blanket of Trump bashing hysteria...which, of course...has nothing to do with any of this. Except that Trump was flying all around the country playing king maker for the mid terms and ensuring the republicans ran a full slate of election deniers. But I guess other than that...
October 13, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Boogyman said: How many? Well, since the unemployment rate today is exactly the same as it was in Feb 2020 I'd say every single one of them 😄 Plus or minus a few for age demographic changes over the last two years of course.
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