I see all of you politards are still here.  So who's getting screwed this time, and who's doing teh screwing?

Then make election day two days and both national holidays, easy fix. 

Until you have evidence of widespread fraud or tampering, there's no valid reason why mail-in ballots or early voting should be banned. If 2016 was proof of anything it's that we need more people engaged and participating in the political process, not less (similar arguments for open primaries). That's the only way we can push back against the fringes and help decent candidates emerge rather than the most extreme ones.

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Then make election day two days and both national holidays, easy fix. 

This gets tricky since technically states have jurisdiction over elections. I'd very much to see one nationwide primary day, but not sure that is Constitutional. 

2 minutes ago, Captain F said:

I see all of you politards are still here.  So who's getting screwed this time, and who's doing teh screwing?

We are saving democracy, even if the negadelphians don’t appreciate it!

Votes in AZ and other areas that have done mail in voting for decades (AZ started in like '91) have always taken a long time to get final counts.

All that's changed is Republicans are no longer dominating state elections there like they were. So the later vote counts now actually matter to the outcome.

Republicans were fine with it until they started losing elections. Now rather than look at their failures and accept that voters rejected them they would rather assert grievance and claim it was stolen like little ****es.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

This gets tricky since technically states have jurisdiction over elections. I'd very much to see one nationwide primary day, but not sure that is Constitutional. 

Do what they've always done. Make it a "national holiday" for public service or some crap reason and make highway funds contingent on holding primaries the same day.

9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Votes in AZ and other areas that have done mail in voting for decades (AZ started in like '91) have always taken a long time to get final counts.

All that's changed is Republicans are no longer dominating state elections there like they were. So the later vote counts now actually matter to the outcome.

Republicans were fine with it until they started losing elections. Now rather than look at their failures and accept that voters rejected them they would rather assert grievance and claim it was stolen like little ****es.

Do what they've always done. Make it a "national holiday" for public service or some crap reason and make highway funds contingent on holding primaries the same day.

Yeah, that would work Constitutionally. Watch some red states try to opt out and cost themselves funding...

Would be nice if people actually knew when the friggin primary was. 

These quirky voting systems are meant to encourage more than 2 parties participating.  I just don't see how thats necessary in almost any US election.

Mail in ballots are fine the way they are. The are a lot of valid reasons why someone may not be able to vote in person on one day in November. 
 

Don’t these my see how this would affect wait times in line? Some of their voters might turn away if they have to wait 3-4 hours to do something that takes 5 min at most. 

35 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Here we go again 

 

Yeah it’s annoying not knowing immediately, but it’s not like anyone taking office the week after election. Such a weak attempt to remove mail in. 

 

Also doesn’t large majority of armed services do mail in?  wouldn’t that hurt Rs? or is it more of would hurt dems worse?  I did mail in when in college. was super easy. 

47 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Mail in ballots are fine the way they are. The are a lot of valid reasons why someone may not be able to vote in person on one day in November. 
 

Don’t these my see how this would affect wait times in line? Some of their voters might turn away if they have to wait 3-4 hours to do something that takes 5 min at most. 

Honestly, who cares if they have a "valid" reason. Get over it and improve your party Republicans.

30 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Honestly, who cares if they have a "valid" reason. Get over it and improve your party Republicans.

no, they would rather put up garbage like Oz and then claim it was some other reason why they lost. 

are there any places out there trying to develope a way to vote via the internet? i understand that it could pose a problem with tampering, but a verified and secure online ballot would be the easiest way to get more people to vote

9 minutes ago, BFit said:

are there any places out there trying to develope a way to vote via the internet? i understand that it could pose a problem with tampering, but a verified and secure online ballot would be the easiest way to get more people to vote

Yeah there are. It can be done, and done securely, but if you think people are complaining about elections not going their way now wait until they have software companies they can blame.

No way I'd put myself out there as a software engineer and expose myself and my family to these nutjobs. 

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

This gets tricky since technically states have jurisdiction over elections. I'd very much to see one nationwide primary day, but not sure that is Constitutional. 

Either way you'd have to amend the constitution since the voting day is set constitutionally.

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

A little from column A, a little from column B. Letting 10 people run for Mayor is...smaht. 

LA does it better -- open primary, then the top 2 face off in the general. But it doesn't have to be 1 Dem and 1 GOP. So it's usually 2 Dems, but it would allow a better path for a moderate Republican (which is basically what Caruso is). 

That's actually not a bad way to do it.

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, that would work Constitutionally. Watch some red states try to opt out and cost themselves funding...

Would be nice if people actually knew when the friggin primary was. 

I think what would be nice is you have five primary days, ten states each day. You can do ten states as a region (my preferred as it's easier on travel), or ten random states.

The problem is that Iowa, NH, and SC aren't exactly a good litmus test for the country as a whole. And Iowa keeps pushing their caucus earlier so they can be special, which makes the election way too long. Primary season should be at most two months long.

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Until you have evidence of widespread fraud or tampering, there's no valid reason why mail-in ballots or early voting should be banned. If 2016 was proof of anything it's that we need more people engaged and participating in the political process, not less (similar arguments for open primaries). That's the only way we can push back against the fringes and help decent candidates emerge rather than the most extreme ones.

Resident Trumptard laughing at the idea that there was no evidence of widespread fraud checks out. 

While I'm at it, let me see if I can come up with some halfway decent regions:

Northeast:

ME, MA, VT, NH, RI, CT, NY, NJ, DE, MD

South:

VA, NC, SC, GA, TN, MS, AL, FL, LA, AR

Mid-West:

PA, WV, OH, KY, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, MO

Central:

WY, CO, NM, ND, SD, NE, IA, KS, OK, TX

West:

CA, HI, WA, OR, NV, AZ, ID, UT, MT, AK 

 

I would do them in that order, as well. Jumps from moderate to crazy to moderately crazy to simple people to crazy.

All the little island territories with their BS primaries can F off.

 

 The military and plenty of elected officials use mail in ballots all the time, and have been for decades. There is nothing wrong with mail in voting.

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, that would work Constitutionally. Watch some red states try to opt out and cost themselves funding...

Would be nice if people actually knew when the friggin primary was. 

Thats just it. If people are so dumb and lazy that they cant find the election and show up in person, i dont want them voting anyway

While we are at it, maybe we should amend the constitution so that in order to vote you need to pass the citizenship test.

5 hours ago, Bill said:

Honestly I think the biggest thing that would help is open primaries. Independent voters make up a big chunk of the block, and in closed primaries it keeps those voters from picking their candidate of choice on the side they lean to, which then allows the crazies to come out and nominate a moron.

Wisconsin, Georgia, Michigan, Texas... They have completely open primaries. Arizona's primary is open to unaffiliated (independent) voters. They nominated some real crazies to run for office. I'm not sure if open primaries makes much difference.

Sorry... almost forgot...

3 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Sorry... almost forgot...

Yeah, what the F dude?  You teased this for like a week and then you forget to drop Nelson Muntz the day after the election?  Do better.

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Do what they've always done. Make it a "national holiday" for public service or some crap reason and make highway funds contingent on holding primaries the same day.

Agree.  Fix it.  It is both annoying, unhealthy, and embarrassing that it takes so long.  That doesn't remove an ounce of integrity in this year's vote (or 2020 or any other year) but it should be improved.

If you all want votes counted quicker, you should volunteer as poll workers.