9 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Perhaps it was poor coaching or maybe it’s just poor talent evaluation, but I personally believe the FO had more to do with Jeffery playing than anything else. Still I think there’s a book growing on Fulgham that he isn’t the best practice player. 

I think at this point we have to say that perhaps Fulgham just isn't all that good full stop. The below average outweighs the good at this point I think?

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think at this point we have to say that perhaps Fulgham just isn't all that good full stop. The below average outweighs the good at this point I think?

Fulgham is a guy who was drafted late and he is a guy who was basically picked off the scrap heap from a really bad football team. It’s not like he was some first round talent. Certainly that doesn’t mean he can’t get better nor am I writing him off, but I think people were crowning the guy a little too soon. He shouldn’t be a lock to gain anything on this team. Playing well for a few games doesn’t make him elite. 

I know it’s just a gut feeling, but so far the new coaches seem to be doing a really good job. I like what I am hearing, and we appear to be well prepared.

I liked Pederson, especially loved him going for it on fourth down. But if the new staff finally gets our players going that were stagnant before.. sky is the limit.

And then I watch Hard Knocks and chuckle just how terrible McCarthy and his staff looks. Yeah, this year will be fun. I feel great about how all played out so far.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Fulgham is a guy who was drafted late and he is a guy who was basically picked off the scrap heap from a really bad football team. It’s not like he was some first round talent. Certainly that doesn’t mean he can’t get better nor am I writing him off, but I think people were crowning the guy a little too soon. He shouldn’t be a lock to gain anything on this team. Playing well for a few games doesn’t make him elite. 

Completely agree. I am not writing him off but I am tempering my own expectations of him. I honestly don't expect a lot from him is where I am at. If he does produce then great that's a real bonus and is much needed for this football team. At this point though I think the "bad" outweighs the "good".

17 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Completely agree. I am not writing him off but I am tempering my own expectations of him. I honestly don't expect a lot from him is where I am at. If he does produce then great that's a real bonus and is much needed for this football team. At this point though I think the "bad" outweighs the "good".

I don’t expect a lot from Fulgham, but I feel like he will give more to this team than JJAW will. 

6 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t expect a lot from Fulgham, but I feel like he will give more to this team than JJAW will. 

At least we are at a point where both are fighting for a fifth roster spot.

I’d say that’s progress.

25 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t expect a lot from Fulgham, but I feel like he will give more to this team than JJAW will. 

Yeah I'd completely agree with that. He can offer and do more than JJAW.

18 minutes ago, Infam said:

At least we are at a point where both are fighting for a fifth roster spot.

I’d say that’s progress.

Great great point that bud! That is definitely progress.

14 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Perhaps it was poor coaching or maybe it’s just poor talent evaluation, but I personally believe the FO had more to do with Jeffery playing than anything else. Still I think there’s a book growing on Fulgham that he isn’t the best practice player. 

During Jeffery's injury Fulgham was excelling at the WR position, and was benched once Jeffery returned to the starting line-up. In the final 8 games Jeffery only had 6 catches...

I agree we don't know what kind of player Fulgham is, which is why when the season was practically lost, they should have stayed to evaluate him and see if his streak is more short-term or long-term, or can be developed further. For me, what they did didn't make any sense for any reason.

2 hours ago, Infam said:

At least we are at a point where both are fighting for a fifth roster spot.

I’d say that’s progress.

Unless they go with 6 WRs.

3 hours ago, Infam said:

At least we are at a point where both are fighting for a fifth roster spot.

I’d say that’s progress.

No doubt!

12 hours ago, Infam said:

I know it’s just a gut feeling, but so far the new coaches seem to be doing a really good job. I like what I am hearing, and we appear to be well prepared.

I liked Pederson, especially loved him going for it on fourth down. But if the new staff finally gets our players going that were stagnant before.. sky is the limit.

And then I watch Hard Knocks and chuckle just how terrible McCarthy and his staff looks. Yeah, this year will be fun. I feel great about how all played out so far.

Imagine interviewing Mike McCarthy for hours, then thinking, "Oh, yeah. This is our guy.”

7 hours ago, mihailo said:

During Jeffery's injury Fulgham was excelling at the WR position, and was benched once Jeffery returned to the starting line-up. In the final 8 games Jeffery only had 6 catches...

I agree we don't know what kind of player Fulgham is, which is why when the season was practically lost, they should have stayed to evaluate him and see if his streak is more short-term or long-term, or can be developed further. For me, what they did didn't make any sense for any reason.

Unless they go with 6 WRs.

It’s basically why I believe Howie has a lot of say over the 53. The FO basically dumped Jason Peters in the lap of the coaching staff last year. 

Not liking Sirriani's approach to preseason games. This is a completely new staff and new schemes. The starters should be out there for a series or 2 every chance they have IMO. Practice isn't the same as real game reps. 

50 minutes ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

Not liking Sirriani's approach to preseason games. This is a completely new staff and new schemes. The starters should be out there for a series or 2 every chance they have IMO. Practice isn't the same as real game reps. 

But what do they get out of that in terms of learning the scheme? They won't learn the scheme in preseason games because they won't really be scheming and using the scheme. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But what do they get out of that in terms of learning the scheme? They won't learn the scheme in preseason games because they won't really be scheming and using the scheme. 

They are going to run at least a base scheme on offense and defense. You don't think they would gain from at least getting real game tape from the players in their base schemes? What the hell do they gain from practice then??

On 8/19/2021 at 6:45 AM, EazyEaglez said:

Fulgham is a guy who was drafted late and he is a guy who was basically picked off the scrap heap from a really bad football team. It’s not like he was some first round talent. Certainly that doesn’t mean he can’t get better nor am I writing him off, but I think people were crowning the guy a little too soon. He shouldn’t be a lock to gain anything on this team. Playing well for a few games doesn’t make him elite. 

No doubt, when I tried to convey that I was lambasted.

On 8/19/2021 at 6:45 AM, EazyEaglez said:

Playing well for a few games doesn’t make him elite. 

You would think he was the way people talk about him. Seems like every year they pick a receiver that is the next great thing that we end up never seeing again

1 hour ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

They are going to run at least a base scheme on offense and defense. You don't think they would gain from at least getting real game tape from the players in their base schemes? What the hell do they gain from practice then??

They gain more in practice in terms of running their scheme and implementing their scheme. 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

You would think he was the way people talk about him. Seems like every year they pick a receiver that is the next great thing that we end up never seeing again

This fan base  is just thirsting for some player to feel good about. People thought after his rookie season Sanders would be elite too. 

2 hours ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

They are going to run at least a base scheme on offense and defense. You don't think they would gain from at least getting real game tape from the players in their base schemes? What the hell do they gain from practice then??

Watching this offense it just looked like a blander version of Pederson’s offense. 

4 hours ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

Not liking Sirriani's approach to preseason games. This is a completely new staff and new schemes. The starters should be out there for a series or 2 every chance they have IMO. Practice isn't the same as real game reps. 

While I somewhat agree, there are cases that can be made against it, especially with our injury history.    Last night Jason Croon was playing for Ertz/Goedert.  What happens ?  He suffers a season ending knee injury.   That could have easily been one of our 2 TE starters.    Also, Sirianni said that the joint team practices are like real games.     I think there is some truth to that.  

5 hours ago, Pliny said:

While I somewhat agree, there are cases that can be made against it, especially with our injury history.    Last night Jason Croon was playing for Ertz/Goedert.  What happens ?  He suffers a season ending knee injury.   That could have easily been one of our 2 TE starters.    Also, Sirianni said that the joint team practices are like real games.     I think there is some truth to that.  

Injuries will always be a part of football, but unprepared teams don't win a lot of games. Croom's injury wasn't even really a contact injury. Just because he got hurt does not mean a different player would have gotten hurt in his place. The Eagles were not near as cautious in 2017, had a few significant injuries and still won the Super Bowl. Then they started trying to "reduce injuries" only to make a case that lack of preparation could very well increase injuries. No attempt to reduce injuries worked in 2018, 2019, or 2020. If this stuff had provided results during any of the last 3 seasons, I would say it has merit. 

Teams used to be able to do a lot more work together than they are permitted to do today. Teams can no longer afford to waste a single opportunity to improve as a team --- especially a team looking to bounce back after a significant overhaul. 

Well, that didn't last long. They didn't even compete against the Patriots. THAT is unacceptable. All that talk from Hey Siri about competing/competition..... yeah, sure.

On 8/19/2021 at 6:28 PM, EazyEaglez said:

It’s basically why I believe Howie has a lot of say over the 53. The FO basically dumped Jason Peters in the lap of the coaching staff last year. 

Didn't Sirianni say as much about Howie and the 53? Howie picks the 53, Sirianni picks the game day actives? Is it any wonder Doug was not heartbroken when he was fired? No 5 year Super Bowl winning head coach is gonna want to put up with that. Who knows how many of Doug's seemingly stupid moves were at the behest of the F.O.? Everybody here is screaming "RUN THE F'KIN BALL!!"  Doug runs the f'kin ball in Green Bay, wins and catches grief for it.