7 hours ago, Toastrel said:

I doubt Baldwin will either. Negligence is not criminal negligence, necessarily. It was an accident, in that it was not intentional. Unless the real bullet was introduced on purpose. Which seems possible to me.

 

Or if he had reason to suspect the crew was not competent and he chose not to inspect the weapon anyway

11 hours ago, Boogyman said:

I don't think any charges were ever brought up on Massee. I mean, you could just Google the guys name and find out for sure though.

Nope nothing happened to Massee. 

 

'Rust' affidavit reveals new details about source of live ammunition in Alec Baldwin's gun

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2021/11/30/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-investigators-seek-source-live-ammo/8814080002/

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An affidavit included with the warrant says Seth Kenney, the owner of PDQ, told investigators on Oct. 29 that the live round shot from Baldwin's prop gun may have been "reloaded ammunition" bearing the logo of Starline Brass, the company that manufactures the dummy rounds and blanks his business supplies to movie sets. 

"(Kenney) described how (Starline) only sells components of ammunition, and not live ammunition, therefore it had to be a reloaded round," the document says.

WTF?

Did somebody really take a blank casing, load it and insert it into the gun? That is Fed up.

On 12/1/2021 at 11:03 AM, Toastrel said:

'Rust' affidavit reveals new details about source of live ammunition in Alec Baldwin's gun

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2021/11/30/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-investigators-seek-source-live-ammo/8814080002/

WTF?

Did somebody really take a blank casing, load it and insert it into the gun? That is Fed up.

FTA:

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the live round shot from Baldwin's prop gun may have been "reloaded ammunition" 

 

In other words, absent any corroborating evidence, he made it up.

A part of me feels bad for Baldwin, I would not wish that on anyone.  There is just something about him which is slimey, making excuses, claiming he didn't pull a trigger? He had to have cocked the hammer back and released it either by way of trigger or thumb. 

Bullets just dont magically fire from guns. 

He was also the director.  Producer - (God forbid I make a mistake like that again)

4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

A part of me feels bad for Baldwin, I would not wish that on anyone.  There is just something about him which is slimey, making excuses, claiming he didn't pull a trigger? He had to have cocked the hammer back and released it either by way of trigger or thumb. 

Bullets just dont magically fire from guns. 

He was also the director. 

He was the producer, moron.  Joel Souza was the director.  He was also shot but didn't die.

21 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

A part of me feels bad for Baldwin, I would not wish that on anyone.  There is just something about him which is slimey, making excuses, claiming he didn't pull a trigger? He had to have cocked the hammer back and released it either by way of trigger or thumb. 

Bullets just dont magically fire from guns. 

He was also the director.  Producer - (God forbid I make a mistake like that again)

His claim that he didn't pull the trigger is setting up a defense for the inevitable civil suits that are coming his way.

37 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

A part of me feels bad for Baldwin, I would not wish that on anyone.  There is just something about him which is slimey, making excuses, claiming he didn't pull a trigger? He had to have cocked the hammer back and released it either by way of trigger or thumb. 

Bullets just dont magically fire from guns. 

He was also the director. 

Baldwin has always come off as a dbag to me.  I even see it in his acting. 
 

It’s hard for me to feel sympathy for him based off of what I think I know about him

15 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

His claim that he didn't pull the trigger is setting up a defense for the inevitable civil suits that are coming his way.

wait what? He is now saying he never pulled the trigger? 

53 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

He was the producer, moron.  

watch it, you'll be on the naughty list. 

10 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

watch it, you'll be on the naughty list. 

  That'd be a shame.  I was hoping for a red pill this Christmas.

On 10/29/2021 at 11:51 AM, Kz! said:

Oh. OK.

Translation, he cleans the theaters after each showing.

 

 

F this guy.... 

 

 

7 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Baldwin has always come off as a dbag to me.  I even see it in his acting. 
 

It’s hard for me to feel sympathy for him based off of what I think I know about him

wait what? He is now saying he never pulled the trigger? 

He is saying none of it is his fault and that is why he doesn't feel guilt. 

1 hour ago, iladelphxx said:

F this guy.... 

 

 

Exactly

we will always have red october. 

So the gun was in his hand and went off, but he had nothing to do with it?

 

Thank you, Alex Trump

13 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

He is saying none of it is his fault and that is why he doesn't feel guilt. 

 

2 hours ago, Toastrel said:

So the gun was in his hand and went off, but he had nothing to do with it?

 

Thank you, Alex Trump

 if I was blind I would have thought I was listening to trump

13 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

F this guy.... 

 

 

It's even worse that that, he's actually blaming the victim for what happened:

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Baldwin said that, in the moments before the fatal shooting, they were participating in 'a marking rehearsal.'

He said: 'She's getting me to position the gun — everything is at her direction. I draw the gun, to her marker.

'I'm not shooting to the camera lens, I'm shooting just off. In her direction. This was a completely incidental shot, that may not have ended up in the film.'

Baldwin says he cocked the gun, and was discussing with Hutchins how it looked on camera.

'I'm just showing. I go, 'How 'bout that? Does that work? You see that? Do you see that?'

'And then she goes, 'Yeah, that's good.'

 

And, of course, claiming he did everything exactly how he was taught:

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'I probably handled weapons as much as any other actor in films with an average career, never shooting or being shot by someone. And in that time, I had a protocol. And it never let me down.'

Asked why he never checked his gun, Baldwin replied: 'What I was taught by someone years ago was: if I took a gun and I popped a clip out of a gun or I manipulated the chamber of a gun, they would take the gun away from me and redo it.

'The prop person said, 'Don't do that.' I mean, I was young.

'And they'd say, 'One thing you would need to understand is we don't want the actor to be the last line of defense against a catastrophic breach of safety with the gun. 'My job,' they told me, man or woman.

'My job is to make sure the gun is safe, and that I hand you the gun, and I declare the gun safe. The crew's not relying on you to say that it's safe. They're relying on me to say that it's safe.'

'When that person who was charged with that job handed me the weapon, I trusted them. And I never had a problem, ever.'

 

Until he did have a problem

22 hours ago, The_Omega said:

FTA:

In other words, absent any corroborating evidence, he made it up.

I know your mind is made up.

It always is prior to the facts. I just posted a story and offered an opinion.

baldwin has always struck me as an unlikeable ****....and righties have a hard-on for him because of his politics & him making fun of their orange god.  if chachi ever got an acting gig & shot somebody, the left would probably act the same way.  anyway, i don't think that interview did baldwin any favors...and most of the legal experts i've heard/read have said the same. the guy obviously didn't try to shoot anyone...it will be a question of negligence. it's just a f'n horrible accident that cost a woman her life & ruined the lives of countless others. using this case as a witch hunt against an actor whose politics you don't like is pretty gross...and expected with today's political climate. 

 

It's pretty well known and accepted that Alec Baldwin is a horrible human being. Beating up photographers, insulting his daughter, etc.

Name me another job other than acting where you can accidentally shoot and kill someone and not hold any accountability.  
 

step 1.  Make actors just as accountable as anyone else in the country

step 2. No other steps required 
 

 

24 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I know your mind is made up.

It always is prior to the facts. I just posted a story and offered an opinion.

My mind isn’t made up anything except that supposition is not fact. A concept you obviously struggle with.