September 26, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: Good. Suck on the consequences, Alec, you dewshberry.
January 19, 20232 yr https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/alec-baldwin-to-be-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-rust-film-shooting/ar-AA16uk3r?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=2ee7652452194cbdbcebafe904dba5e0 He's being charged with involuntary manslaughter.
January 19, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, DiPros said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/alec-baldwin-to-be-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-rust-film-shooting/ar-AA16uk3r?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=2ee7652452194cbdbcebafe904dba5e0 He's being charged with involuntary manslaughter. Finally.
January 19, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, mikemack8 said: He'll get off with a slap on the wrist any way you slice it We'll see. That may have been true had he kept his mouth shut from the time he pulled the trigger until now, but he has a big mouth and basically thumbed his nose at the entire situation/process. They may want to go hard after him because of that.
January 20, 20232 yr I hope this remorseless **** spends time in jail for killing a young mother. I’m so tired of seeing people argue how he’s not expected to check the gun because he’s an actor and had people doing it for him. No - what he did meets the criteria for involuntary manslaughter in that jurisdiction. You don’t get to cite industry standards or your company manual as a defense. If your safety procedures don’t hold up against local law then it’s time to tighten them up. RIP Halyna
January 20, 20232 yr Author 6 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: I hope this remorseless **** spends time in jail for killing a young mother. I’m so tired of seeing people argue how he’s not expected to check the gun because he’s an actor and had people doing it for him. No - what he did meets the criteria for involuntary manslaughter in that jurisdiction. You don’t get to cite industry standards or your company manual as a defense. If your safety procedures don’t hold up against local law then it’s time to tighten them up. RIP Halyna He’s not. Doesn’t mean he won’t pay a price for it though.
January 20, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: We'll see. That may have been true had he kept his mouth shut from the time he pulled the trigger until now, but he has a big mouth and basically thumbed his nose at the entire situation/process. They may want to go hard after him because of that. Baldwin's decision to sit down for an interview with George Stephanopoulos was epically stupid. He should have kept his public statements to bland, generic declarations of sorrow and sympathy screened and issued by his lawyer.
January 20, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, Mlodj said: Baldwin's decision to sit down for an interview with George Stephanopoulos was epically stupid. He should have kept his public statements to bland, generic declarations of sorrow and sympathy screened and issued by his lawyer. Or it was genius because how are you gonna find an impartial jury now to convict him?
January 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: He’s not. Doesn’t mean he won’t pay a price for it though. I mean he is.. if that’s the law. It doesn’t matter what the norm is on a movie set. Further he’s a producer… learn to operate your business within the laws of the jurisdiction you are working in. Do you think if this was an oil company that anyone would care what their workplace procedures are if those procedures didn’t protect an employee from dying in a way that wouldn’t happen if the laws in that locale were followed? Actors don’t get special dispensation from the law. No one should care that they depend on some under experienced armorer to make sure that no one dies when they point a literal loaded gun at an innocent person and pull the trigger. I mean we should care - care that they are punished enough that the rest of the industry takes note and adjusts.
January 20, 20232 yr Author 13 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: I mean he is.. if that’s the law. It doesn’t matter what the norm is on a movie set. Further he’s a producer… learn to operate your business within the laws of the jurisdiction you are working in. Do you think if this was an oil company that anyone would care what their workplace procedures are if those procedures didn’t protect an employee from dying in a way that wouldn’t happen if the laws in that locale were followed? Actors don’t get special dispensation from the law. No one should care that they depend on some under experienced armorer to make sure that no one dies when they point a literal loaded gun at an innocent person and pull the trigger. I mean we should care - care enough to make sure they are punished enough that the rest of the industry takes note and adjusts. As an actor, it’s absolutely not his responsibility to check the gun. You can disagree if you like but there’s a very specific hierarchy on a set and very specific protocols in place to prevent these types of accidents and every actor checking every gun isn’t a part of that process. There’s a reason the guy who killed Brandon Lee wasn’t charged with anything. His culpability as a producer is a separate issue since he’s technically in charge of the entire production.
January 20, 20232 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: As an actor, it’s absolutely not his responsibility to check the gun. You can disagree if you like but there’s a very specific hierarchy on a set and very specific protocols in place to prevent these types of accidents and every actor checking every gun isn’t a part of that process. There’s a reason the guy who killed Brandon Lee wasn’t charged with anything. His culpability as a producer is a separate issue since he’s technically in charge of the entire production. Who Fing cares about what the protocol is on a set? What are you some simp who is too enamored with actors that you don’t realize it’s a workplace like any other? Yeah great that Hollywood sets leave it in the hands of a second or third party - that is clearly a really bad idea when it comes to firearms. And literally no one cares that "Hollywood” has this standard if it doesn’t hold up against actual laws. Why do you think Hollywood workplace protocol supercedes actual laws?
January 20, 20232 yr Author 17 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: Who Fing cares about what the protocol is on a set? What are you some simp who is too enamored with actors that you don’t realize it’s a workplace like any other? Yeah great that Hollywood sets leave it in the hands of a second or third party - that is clearly a really bad idea when it comes to firearms. And literally no one cares that "Hollywood” has this standard if it doesn’t hold up against actual laws. Why do you think Hollywood workplace protocol supercedes actual laws? What the F are you talking about lady? I work in the industry. I’ve been on a lot of sets. I’m just telling you the process, which obviously the courts will take into consideration when they hear the case. When most people (hunters, etc.) handle a firearm they don’t have a team of people loading, checking and re-checking that firearm before they use it. The chain of command speaks to culpability, which means it’s something that the court will absolutely care about.
January 20, 20232 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: What the F are you talking about lady? I work in the industry. I’ve been on a lot of sets. I’m just telling you the process, which obviously the courts will take into consideration when they hear the case. When most people (hunters, etc.) handle a firearm they don’t have a team of people loading, checking and re-checking that firearm before they use it. The chain of command speaks to culpability, which means it’s something that the court will absolutely care about. Again literally no one cares about your company safety procedures if they don’t even meet the standard of local law protocol. I’ve worked as the risk manager for a major corporation, casino, hotel and hospitality group. It does not matter what your "chain of command” is - it doesn’t matter what your safety procedures are - if they don’t conform with local law. No one cares that Hollywood says that an inexperienced armorer is all you need to overcome the negligence or involuntary manslaughter standard. Literally nothing that you’ve learned on set matters since it’s the incongruent with actual law. It’s cute that you can attest that productions have done it that way..literally doesn’t change that it meets the standard of involuntary manslaughter.
January 20, 20232 yr Author 2 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: Again literally no one cares about your company safety procedures if they don’t even meet the standard of local law protocol. I’ve worked as the risk manager for a major corporation, casino, hotel and hospitality group. It does not matter what your "chain of command” is - it doesn’t matter what your safety procedures are - if they don’t conform with local law. No one cares that Hollywood says that an inexperienced armorer is all you need to overcome the negligence or involuntary manslaughter standard. Literally nothing that you’ve learned on set matters since it’s the incongruent with actual law. It’s cute that you can attest that productions have done it that way..literally doesn’t change that it meets the standard of involuntary manslaughter. Firing blanks at someone isn’t "the incongruent with actual law”. Actors do everyday on set everyday and I promise you they’re not breaking the law every time they do. The court will take the fact that the gun was loaded, checked and double checked by different people before it reached Baldwin’s hand into account when deciding how at fault he is for her death. So yeah, that protocol matters.
January 20, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Firing blanks at someone isn’t "the incongruent with actual law”. Actors do everyday on set everyday and I promise you they’re not breaking the law every time they do. The court will take the fact that the gun was loaded, checked and double checked by different people before it reached Baldwin’s hand into account when deciding how at fault he is for her death. So yeah, that protocol matters. It’s not the firing of the blanks.. but you know that. It’s the negligence that led to firing live ammo. And yes Alec is culpable under the law. And if he wanted to shield himself from that he would have exercised actual safety procedures in operating that firearm. He didn’t - as the law requires - and now he’s in big big trouble. And literally no one cares that your job was to wipe someone’s ass on the set of a reality show in Atlanta that’s a dime a dozen. It has nothing to do with actual workplace culpability.
January 20, 20232 yr Author 2 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: It’s not the firing of the blanks.. but you know that. It’s the negligence that led to firing live ammo. And yes Alec is culpable under the law. And if he wanted to shield himself from that he would have exercised actual safety procedures in operating that firearm. He didn’t - as the law requires - and now he’s in big big trouble. And literally no one cares that your job was to wipe someone’s ass on the set of a reality show in Atlanta that’s a dime a dozen. See now you’re getting it. If my job was to wipe someone’s ass, then I’d be in charge of their ass being clean, not them. If they had sheet on their ass, it would be on me, not them. And the negligence was the person who’s job it was to load blanks in the gun and the person who’s job it was to double check that it was free of live rounds. Since the expectation of a gun on set is that they’ll be loaded with blanks, the culpability is completely different than that of a hunter or someone else who knowingly uses live rounds. Again, the guy who killed Brandon Lee was never charged for good reason.
January 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: See now you’re getting it. If my job was to wipe someone’s ass, then I’d be in charge of their ass being clean, not them. If they had sheet on their ass, it would be on me, not them. And the negligence was the person who’s job it was to load blanks in the gun and the person who’s job it was to double check that it was free of live rounds. Since the expectation of a gun on set is that they’ll be loaded with blanks, the culpability is completely different than that of a hunter or someone else who knowingly uses live rounds. Again, the guy who killed Brandon Lee was never charged for good reason. Yikes you are so out of touch with reality and the law. The law in NM doesn’t care about a movie production assigning blame to an employee. That has nothing to do with the manslaughter statute in this jurisdiction. The fact that you keep referencing Lee in a different circumstance, time and jurisdiction just shows what a rube you are. You’re such a simp.
January 20, 20232 yr Author 4 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: Yikes you are so out of touch with reality and the law. The law in NM doesn’t care about a movie production assigning blame to an employee. That has nothing to do with the manslaughter statute in this jurisdiction. The fact that you keep referencing Lee in a different circumstance, time and jurisdiction just shows what a rube you are. You’re such a simp. Jesus Christ, you’re emotional. Maybe take a breath before responding this time. Lee’s situation a pretty close comparison honestly, except the crew forgot to remove the primers from the cartridge instead of someone mixing a live round in with blanks. But like Rust, the case was ruled an accident due to negligence.
January 20, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Jesus Christ, you’re emotional. Maybe take a breath before responding this time. Lee’s situation a pretty close comparison honestly, except the crew forgot to remove the primers from the cartridge instead of someone mixing a live round in with blanks. But like Rust, the case was ruled an accident due to negligence. I’m emotional? Um ok Mr. Misogynist. 🙄 🤣🤣🤣 Like you must realize how wrong you are to resort to the "emotional woman” trope. You seem to be stuck in the year Lee was killed as if it’s some sort of lawful benchmark that doesn’t change with years and location. It literally has nothing to do with the involuntary manslaughter laws in NM. It has zero to do with a case of negligence in 2021. Freaking wannabe simp
January 20, 20232 yr Author 5 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: I’m emotional? Um ok Mr. Misogynist. 🙄 🤣🤣🤣 Like you must realize how wrong you are to resort to the "emotional woman” trope. You seem to be stuck in the year Lee was killed as if it’s some sort of lawful benchmark that doesn’t change with years and location. It literally has nothing to do with the involuntary manslaughter laws in NM. It has zero to do with a case of negligence in 2021. Freaking wannabe simp Again, the Crow is an analogous situation regardless of it being in NC. And your insistence that the circumstances around the loading/inspection process won’t have any bearing on convincing 12 jurors is laughable and something you obviously didn’t think through. It’s going to be an extremely difficult case to prosecute. Clearly we’re not going to agree here so I’ll stop mansplaining and get back to watching The Knick. Feel free to scream simp a few more times in your next post.
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