NFC is way way down. 

40 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

NFC is way way down. 

 

 

On 12/22/2021 at 12:52 AM, Uscg-green said:

NFC is way way down. 

Even all the "good teams” have been putting up some clunker games lately too. There are some beatable teams here.

There is realistic outcome where the Eagles go 2-1 over the next three and still get the 6th seed. It's a weird tie breaker scenario where the Eagles, Saints and 49ers all have the same record (9-8) and the 49ers get bounced from the 6th seed.

No more talk about the NFC being down. The Eagles, Dolphins, and Colts all started the season with losing records and now they’re all in the playoff picture. The AFC East has three playoff teams right now. Earlier in the year everyone was gushing all over the Chargers and they might not even make the playoffs. All three Eagles picks will be late in the first it seems. 

So if we beat the Redskins, we're locked in regardless or do we need to win out to be a lock?

10 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

So if we beat the Redskins, we're locked in regardless or do we need to win out to be a lock?

Vikings also need to lose against Packers and Saints to lose against Panthers or 49ers to beat Texans.

3 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Vikings also need to lose against Packers and Saints to lose against Panthers or 49ers to beat Texans.

Thanks. Normally, I'm up on all of this but this season I just haven't been able to follow much at all. 

51 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Vikings also need to lose against Packers and Saints to lose against Panthers or 49ers to beat Texans.

Why do the 49ers need to beat the Texans though? That’s the one part I don’t get. 

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Why do the 49ers need to beat the Texans though? That’s the one part I don’t get. 

I don’t know the specifics but I know the tie breaker is different if three teams are tied as opposed to just two teams. I think that has something to do with it. 

4 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don’t know the specifics but I know the tie breaker is different if three teams are tied as opposed to just two teams. I think that has something to do with it. 

If the 49ers lose they fall to 8-8 and the Eagles go to 9-7 though. I know they win the H2H with the Eagles though. I don’t really understand how winning and basically having the same record as the 49ers clinches the berth. Just weird. Texans actually playing good football right now too. 

11 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

If the 49ers lose they fall to 8-8 and the Eagles go to 9-7 though. I know they win the H2H with the Eagles though. I don’t really understand how winning and basically having the same record as the 49ers clinches the berth. Just weird. 

A Niners loss doesn’t knock the eagles out of holding the 7th seed, but it keeps them from clinching pending week 18 results.  
 

If SF and Philly both win this weekend though, with a Vikes loss to GB, it means the Eagles could only end in a tie with NO, where they’d win the head to head to head tie breaker. If San Fran loses this weekend though, it’s possible still for a three way tie with SF and NO, and the eagles would lose out on the tie breaker. 

 

3 minutes ago, nipples said:

A Niners loss doesn’t knock the eagles out of holding the 7th seed, but it keeps them from clinching pending week 18 results.  
 

If SF and Philly both win this weekend though, with a Vikes loss to GB, it means the Eagles could only end in a tie with NO, where they’d win the head to head to head tie breaker. If San Fran loses this weekend though, it’s possible still for a three way tie with SF and NO, and the eagles would lose out on the tie breaker. 

 

I’ve also read that the Eagles need the 49ers to win or the Panthers to beat the Saints. Both could be difficult, because Jimmy G is out with a broken hand, and the Panthers stink.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Why do the 49ers need to beat the Texans though? That’s the one part I don’t get. 

 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

I don’t know the specifics but I know the tie breaker is different if three teams are tied as opposed to just two teams. I think that has something to do with it. 

If all this happened: (week 16) Eagles beat WFT, Saints beat Panthers, 49ers beat Texans, and Packers beat Vikings. (Week 17) Eagles lose to Cowboys, Saints beat Falcons, 49ers beat Rams, and Vikings beat Bears (irrelevant here).

Records would be: 49ers 10-7, Eagles 9-8 / Saints 9-8, Vikings 8-9. In this case, Eagles have head-to-head tiebreaker over Saints.

If 49ers lost against Texans, records would be: Saints 9-8, 49ers 9-8 / Eagles 9-8, Vikings 8-9. Eagles lose out on Playoffs because of an inferior strength of victory tiebreaker (Saints 70-65, 49ers 62-72-1, Eagles 48-86-1 [as of right now])

If 49ers lose to Rams, records would be Eagles 9-8, Saints 9-8 / 49ers 9-8, Vikings 8-9. 49ers lose out on Playoffs because of an inferior conference record. Eagles get #6 seed over Saints because of common opponents tiebreaker (Eagles 7-4, Saints 6-5)

 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I’ve also read that the Eagles need the 49ers to win or the Panthers to beat the Saints. Both could be difficult, because Jimmy G is out with a broken hand, and the Panthers stink.

Yeah Texans are pretty awful though. 
 

I mean, in theory there’s still a scenario where the Eagles could climb up to the 5 seed.  They’d have to win out and have both San Fran and Arizona drop the last two. 

25 minutes ago, nipples said:

Yeah Texans are pretty awful though. 
 

I mean, in theory there’s still a scenario where the Eagles could climb up to the 5 seed.  They’d have to win out and have both San Fran and Arizona drop the last two. 

Texans have won 2 straight, and blew out the Chargers and knock them out the playoff board for now at least. That game worries me a little. 

45 minutes ago, nipples said:

A Niners loss doesn’t knock the eagles out of holding the 7th seed, but it keeps them from clinching pending week 18 results.  
 

If SF and Philly both win this weekend though, with a Vikes loss to GB, it means the Eagles could only end in a tie with NO, where they’d win the head to head to head tie breaker. If San Fran loses this weekend though, it’s possible still for a three way tie with SF and NO, and the eagles would lose out on the tie breaker. 

 

If the Eagles clinch a spot this weekend, I would consider resting our key starters vs. Dallas.  i don't think trying to improve playoff seeding would matter that much as a WC team.  I think making sure key players are healthy would be a better move.

12 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

If the Eagles clinch a spot this weekend, I would consider resting our key starters vs. Dallas.  i don't think trying to improve playoff seeding would matter that much as a WC team.  I think making sure key players are healthy would be a better move.

Potentially the Cowboys could be the team forced to play their starters and possible put them in harms way while the Eagles kind of get a bye week. 

24 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Potentially the Cowboys could be the team forced to play their starters and possible put them in harms way while the Eagles kind of get a bye week. 

It's possible. Also, it would give the Cowboys a false sense of security because they would probably beat up our backups and they would feel we would be an easy win in they have a rematch with the Eagles in the playoffs.

42 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

If the Eagles clinch a spot this weekend, I would consider resting our key starters vs. Dallas.  i don't think trying to improve playoff seeding would matter that much as a WC team.  I think making sure key players are healthy would be a better move.

I don’t know, they came out sooooo sluggish after the bye week l that I almost think they’d be better suited keeping the momentum going

BTW, if there is a three-way tie between the Eagles, 49ers and Saints at 9-8, the Eagles are the 6th seed based on first eliminating the 49ers on conference win percentage (49ers win over the Eagles does not count in this case), then the Eagles go into 6th winning the tie-breaker with the Saints while the Saints are 7th, winning that tie-breaker with the 49ers on conference games. 

3 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

It's possible. Also, it would give the Cowboys a false sense of security because they would probably beat up our backups and they would feel we would be an easy win in they have a rematch with the Eagles in the playoffs.

This is why I suspect Cowboys-Eagles will be the Saturday 8:15 PM ET game to assure the game is meaningful for the Cowboys in Week 18. 

8 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don’t know, they came out sooooo sluggish after the bye week l that I almost think they’d be better suited keeping the momentum going

I think we will need our full complement of RBs to do damage in the playoffs, especially Howard. I think Howard is more valuable than Sanders because the Eagles don't have any other back with the physicality of Howard.  So, I think our RBs could use the rest.

Just now, CaliEagle said:

I think we will need our full complement of RBs to do damage in the playoffs, especially Howard. I think Howard is more valuable than Sanders because the Eagles don't have any other back with the physicality of Howard.  So, I think our RBs could use the rest.

Agreed. I’d much rather see the rest. The Eagles came out of the bye week into a very unusual situation with their game being pushed back, their coach catching Covid, and the short week to play the Giants. A good rest for the players especially guys like Kelce could only help. 

8 hours ago, CaliEagle said:

I think we will need our full complement of RBs to do damage in the playoffs, especially Howard. I think Howard is more valuable than Sanders because the Eagles don't have any other back with the physicality of Howard.  So, I think our RBs could use the rest.

Could the Eagles pick up a 230 pound RB with basic competence?  Oops,  only power back in a run first offense is hurt,  completely screwed.
 

Watching Minnesota and their giant RT,  Daniel  Faalele.  6'9 380.  Very Mailata like.  He just ran the ball for a TD short yardage, goal line.    

11 hours ago, nipples said:

Yeah Texans are pretty awful though. 
 

I mean, in theory there’s still a scenario where the Eagles could climb up to the 5 seed.  They’d have to win out and have both San Fran and Arizona drop the last two. 

I don't think the 49ers matter in this case. I think all we need is to win our last two and have the Cardinals lose twice. Since divisional ties are broken first, the Cardinals would finish ahead of the 49ers because they swept them. And the Eagles would win the tiebreak with Arizona based on conference record. Eagles would be fifth seed. Cardinals would be sixth.