Is this enough targets?

Both the statements below are true:

• You need to produce when given the chance and that will lead to even more chances - Raegor hasn't done that so a lot of his performance is on him
• In our offence and with the style that our QB plays, WRs just aren't going to be as productive and the chances the get / the stats they put up will just be less than they would be in a more traditional offence

13 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I do agree that  this offense lends itself to fewer receiving opportunities --- especially for WRs. All the WRs are being asked to block and expected to block effectively. Smith, Reagor, and JJAW have all been blocking well for the most part. But there just won't be as many pass opportunities until this offense moves toward true balance. With that being said, when your number is called and you get a game with multiple targets, you simply have to make the necessary plays on your end. 

 

I don't blame Reagor for the poorly designed, poorly timed, and poorly executed screen passes and whatnot that have no chance at gaining yards, usually resulting in a loss. But he absolutely needs to come up with those tough catch opportunities like he had at the end of the game a couple weeks ago. If you want to make the case for more playing time or more targets, you absolutely are, and should be, "expected to perform." Minshew was only given one start, due to injury. He came out and performed well. Last year, Mailata was forced to play LT due to injuries and won a starting job and a large contract extension. As a player, your opportunity is obvious. I realize that virtually every Eagles fan is down on Reagor. He has done very little to endear himself to the fans with his receiving. I still think he can turn things around. It's going to have to start with him, though. If he gets only 2 targets and the passes are catchable, he needs to catch them. 

Very well put. It's technically not over yet for Reagor in Philly, but he'll need to make the requisite changes in his attitude and approach if he wants to be successful in the league. Based on what he's showed so far on the field, on social media, and in his body language during press conferences, it seems unlikely that he will be.

On 12/10/2021 at 11:37 PM, Mike030270 said:

Would he still suck if he was given time with a different QB?

Sucked with wentz, sucks with Hurts. Guess Brady is the only one.

5 minutes ago, EagleMatt said:

Sucked with wentz, sucks with Hurts. Guess Brady is the only one.

To be fair the whole 2020 year sucked. We have better coaching that is getting players open

It's definitely both.

The best our offense, and our starting QB, looked all season has been when we actively took the ball out of his hands and gave it to our RB's.  The rest of the time it's been an inconsistent mess. 

But then again you want to see Reagor do at least something with what he is getting.  Devonta may not be producing as well as he probably could dealing with all this mess, but the guy is making the most of it.  Meanwhile Reagor's out there offering next to nothing and competing with Sanders on who can do the dumbest ish.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Not about being even.

You got the 36th and 78th in the league in targets. The other two are so low on the chart they dont even have the numbers(by looks it looks 125th ish). 

How can you judge and develop these guys when theyre not getting thrown to? 

Don't care 

Reagor needs less targets because everytime a ball goes near him something terrible usually happens. I never thought Howie would draft a worse WR than JJAW but the guy did it.

With our current offense? Trade Smith and Watkins for blocking tight ends. I guess Reagor can block OK.

On 12/13/2021 at 4:34 PM, Mike030270 said:

To be fair the whole 2020 year sucked. We have better coaching that is getting players open

LOL, these are the same coaches everyone stated were incompetent until they started running more and winning games. Now after one game where the backup wins the WR's were somehow open all season, yet no one ever mentioned it till now.

 

On 12/13/2021 at 4:37 PM, hukdonfoniks said:

It's definitely both.

The best our offense, and our starting QB, looked all season has been when we actively took the ball out of his hands and gave it to our RB's.  The rest of the time it's been an inconsistent mess. 

But then again you want to see Reagor do at least something with what he is getting.  Devonta may not be producing as well as he probably could dealing with all this mess, but the guy is making the most of it.  Meanwhile Reagor's out there offering next to nothing and competing with Sanders on who can do the dumbest ish.

Except they really didn't take it out of his hands - they just allowed Hurts to run the ball more.  The coaches need to be more balanced imo, and have Hurts run a little less by giving more of this attempts to the actual RBs. And sorry, he should not have pass attempts in the teens.

14 minutes ago, MF POON said:

LOL, these are the same coaches everyone stated were incompetent until they started running more and winning games. Now after one game where the backup wins the WR's were somehow open all season, yet no one ever mentioned it till now.

 

Except they really didn't take it out of his hands - they just allowed Hurts to run the ball more.  The coaches need to be more balanced imo, and have Hurts run a little less by giving more of this attempts to the actual RBs. And sorry, he should not have pass attempts in the teens.

Nick changed his gameplan because his QB can't pass. That's what a HC is supposed to do. It took a very long time to do it though

I haven't looked at the other WRs but Smith has been open A LOT this season

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Nick changed his gameplan because his QB can't pass. That's what a HC is supposed to do. It took a very long time to do it though

I haven't looked at the other WRs but Smith has been open A LOT this season

Imo, the amount of passes were an issue, but we were mainly losing because our defense couldn't stop anyone at the time. Same defense that allowed Derek Carr to have a career day against them, and Tyreek Hill was allowed to do whatever he wanted.  

Sure thing.

On 12/10/2021 at 4:02 PM, The Blackfish said:

 5 games with Hurts since Detroit          Goedert  17 rec, 205 yds, 0 tds,  12 ypc.     
       
 One game with Minshew   
 6 rec, 105 yds, 2 tds, 17.5 ypc.      

Is that for the season?   Since the Detroit game when the offense completely changed and the Eagles started winning, the passing has really dropped off.   Mac Jones has only played one more game than Hurts and including MNF’s, 3 total passes, he’s thrown 33 more times than Jalen.   
 

 
 

Now what did the wide receivers do with Minshew? 

On 12/12/2021 at 7:10 PM, kiwieagle said:

Both the statements below are true:

• You need to produce when given the chance and that will lead to even more chances - Raegor hasn't done that so a lot of his performance is on him
• In our offence and with the style that our QB plays, WRs just aren't going to be as productive and the chances the get / the stats they put up will just be less than they would be in a more traditional offence

Well the team isn’t short of giving Reagor opportunities and targets. He’s short on delivering on them. Also prior to the Giants game Smith was on pace to break Desean Jackson’s rookie record. He’s dropped off a lot since then. Some think it’s the rookie wall for him though. People are talking about developing wide receivers, but who are these receiver they’re referring to? JJAW? Hightower? Reagor? Really the only guys here are Smith and Watkins. Both if you ask me are developing at the pace they should, but Watkins shouldn’t be starting in the NFL yet. Reagor isn’t an NFL wide receiver. Personally I believe the Eagles need a legit veteran starter. Thankfully next season the have the cap space to go get one. 

7 hours ago, MF POON said:

LOL, these are the same coaches everyone stated were incompetent until they started running more and winning games. Now after one game where the backup wins the WR's were somehow open all season, yet no one ever mentioned it till now.

 

Except they really didn't take it out of his hands - they just allowed Hurts to run the ball more.  The coaches need to be more balanced imo, and have Hurts run a little less by giving more of this attempts to the actual RBs. And sorry, he should not have pass attempts in the teens.

The issue is on Hurts.  He is learning to process the routes and coverage, decision making.  When he is unsure, he takes off running, something he did in college.  Siri should use the running plays more and simplify the pass plays on intermediate ranges.

On 12/20/2021 at 4:01 PM, Penn7980 said:

The issue is on Hurts.  He is learning to process the routes and coverage, decision making.  When he is unsure, he takes off running, something he did in college.  Siri should use the running plays more and simplify the pass plays on intermediate ranges.

Sorry but Reagor has had three different quarterbacks now, and he’s basically sucked with all of them. The issue is Reagor.