China to the World "US should be held accountable"

[Ipiggles]

 

[Seventy_Yard_FG]

I’m fine with that.  Hoping China can pick up some slack ensuring terrorists and criminal orgs don’t thrive in off beat countries

[SNOORDA]

20 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I’m fine with that.  Hoping China can pick up some slack ensuring terrorists and criminal orgs don’t thrive in off beat countries

They hate us cuz they ain’t us

[DaEagles4Life]

 STFU China

More than 1 million Uighurs and other minorities from Xinjiang are believed to be held in internment camps, where they are forced to study Marxism, renounce their religion, work in factories and face abuse, according to human rights groups and first-hand accounts. Beijing says these "re-education camps" provide vocational training and are necessary to fight extremism.

 

[JohnSnowsHair]

At least rhetorically, no nation has been held accountable more than the US in history.

We've had plenty of missteps and haven't always lived up to our ideals, but I'd put our record ahead of anybody. I mean holy hell we've policed shipping lanes for almost a century, helped rebuild our former enemies from WW2 into modern liberal democracies, and export a crapton of dollars to desperate nations.

[Gannan]

China is an evil empire and a danger to free people and free thought everywhere. They are the enemy and need to be treated as such.

[20dawk4life]

17 minutes ago, Gannan said:

China is an evil empire and a danger to free people and free thought everywhere. They are the enemy and need to be treated as such.

Nuke ‘em!!!!!

[ToastJenkins]

40 minutes ago, Gannan said:

China is an evil empire and a danger to free people and free thought everywhere. They are the enemy and need to be treated as such.

Settle down, Donald

[The_Omega]

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 STFU China

More than 1 million Uighurs and other minorities from Xinjiang are believed to be held in internment camps, where they are forced to study Marxism, renounce their religion, work in factories and face abuse, according to human rights groups and first-hand accounts. Beijing says these "re-education camps" provide vocational training and are necessary to fight extremism.

 

Evidence indicates that Falun Gong practitioners, Uyghur Muslims, Tibetans and other prisoners have been further subject to forced live organ harvesting. ... These 'organ tourists' travel from all over the world to buy an organ from a non-consenting prisoner for a minimum of around £5,000 (€5,857).

[xzmattzx]

1 hour ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

Source, please. You need to supply sources every time, so people can begin researching on their own, as is imperative in a free society.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

What's the old phrase... Pot kettle black. 

Or... People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Gannan]

10 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Settle down, Donald

Trump would be tweeting about how great President Xi is...well if he could still tweet. I want a cold warrior like Reagan or Cheney. 

[Gannan]

10 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

Nuke ‘em!!!!!

I was thinking more along the lines of what Kennedy did. Put our Navy around Taiwan and block China from doing anything. 

[Dave Moss]

13 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

At least rhetorically, no nation has been held accountable more than the US in history.

We've had plenty of missteps and haven't always lived up to our ideals, but I'd put our record ahead of anybody. I mean holy hell we've policed shipping lanes for almost a century, helped rebuild our former enemies from WW2 into modern liberal democracies, and export a crapton of dollars to desperate nations.

I wouldn’t go that far.  During the Cold War be the U.S. was responsible for a lot of death and destruction in the Third World.  Just take Vietnam as an example.  Americans tend to focus on the 60,000 U.S. troops that were lost there instead of the 2,000,000 Vietnamese who were killed.  China was more or less part of the Second World that was contesting the U.S. in Asia especially.

 

[ToastJenkins]

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

I was thinking more along the lines of what Kennedy did. Put our Navy around Taiwan and block China from doing anything. 

War monger

[JohnSnowsHair]

23 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I wouldn’t go that far.  During the Cold War be the U.S. was responsible for a lot of death and destruction in the Third World.  Just take Vietnam as an example.  Americans tend to focus on the 60,000 U.S. troops that were lost there instead of the 2,000,000 Vietnamese who were killed.  China was more or less part of the Second World that was contesting the U.S. in Asia especially.

 

Soviets supporting the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong don't factor in to your math at all? The communist regime engaging in large scale assassinations of South Vietnamese leadership didn't precipitate the conflict? This was a civil war that we got involved in because of the larger strategy of containment, putting the entirety of the conflict on the bill of the US is disingenuous at best. 

[Dave Moss]

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Soviets supporting the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong don't factor in to your math at all? The communist regime engaging in large scale assassinations of South Vietnamese leadership didn't precipitate the conflict? This was a civil war that we got involved in because of the larger strategy of containment, putting the entirety of the conflict on the bill of the US is disingenuous at best. 

Sure they factor in a little bit I guess.  The USSR was sending the North Vietnamese weapons.  China was giving them military advice.  So what?

[JohnSnowsHair]

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sure they factor in a little bit I guess.  The USSR was sending the North Vietnamese weapons.  China was giving them military advice.  So what?

China gave them more than military advice. They rebuilt bases and had 100s of thousands of troops stationed in North Vietnam. 

[Dave Moss]

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

China gave them more than military advice. They rebuilt bases and had 100s of thousands of troops stationed in North Vietnam. 

Oh, they rebuilt bases that the U.S. had destoyed?

 

[JohnSnowsHair]

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Oh, they rebuilt bases that the U.S. had destoyed?

 

The point is that China and the Soviet Union were propping up the north. We were propping up the south.

Had either side backed down sooner the death toll would have been much smaller. 

Putting it all on the US is disingenuous.

[Kz!]

It's hard to blame China and Russia for posturing against us right now. We have a visibly feeble President both in a mental and physical sense. We've never projected weakness more in the history of our nation. 

[Dave Moss]

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The point is that China and the Soviet Union were propping up the north. We were propping up the south.

Had either side backed down sooner the death toll would have been much smaller. 

Putting it all on the US is disingenuous.

So do you think the U.S. shares responsibility for the Soviet’s war in Afghanistan in the 1980s since we were sending the Afghans weapons?

[Gannan]

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

It's hard to blame China and Russia for posturing against us right now. We have a visibly feeble President both in a mental and physical sense. We've never projected weakness more in the history of our nation. 

[JohnSnowsHair]

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

So do you think the U.S. shares responsibility for the Soviet’s war in Afghanistan in the 1980s since we were sending the Afghans weapons?

Sure, some obviously. There were a lot of nations with body counts due to our proxy wars during the cold war era. 

[Kz!]

5 minutes ago, Kz! said:

It's hard to blame China and Russia for posturing against us right now. We have a visibly feeble President both in a mental and physical sense. We've never projected weakness more in the history of our nation. 

BTW, this isn't even factoring in the complete and utter joke woke liberals have turned our military into. Between presidential incompetence and woke military, countries are going to flex on us in a way we haven't been used to in our lifetimes.