3 hours ago, Procus said:

One critical element missing from the offense to day was Hurts the runner.  I suspect that it's due to his ankle.  Was good to have the defense step up and take advantage of a depleted Giants team.

I think that's something to watch though. 4 weeks on from first hurting that ankle he's still struggling (not a surprise as I believe high ankle injuries are pretty bad). I thought he looked less mobile yesterday than he did on Tuesday? Maybe that's due to the short period between games and not much rest?

On 12/25/2021 at 9:11 PM, roadagain65 said:

Liking his play design as well, coming up with some dangerous schemes.

Yes, based on his schemes earlier in the season you gotta tip you hat to him, apparently he's not a stubborn kinda guy and a quick learner.

Honestly, he has this team on track to win 10 games and potentially get into the playoffs.  That is a major accomplishment, given last off-season's dysfunction, installing whole new systems, and having a QB with limitations in the passing game.   That isn't even bringing Covid into the mix, which has wrecked some teams.  Kudos to him.

1st half yesterday was baffling when playing against the what... 26th ranked rush defense and we're tops in the league. Just weird. Glad he woke up 2nd half.

Just now, judunno said:

1st half yesterday was baffling when playing against the what... 26th ranked rush defense and we're tops in the league. Just weird. Glad he woke up 2nd half.

Have to try out your passing game once in awhile. Cant count on running all the time. 

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Have to try out your passing game once in awhile. Cant count on running all the time. 

Run first then pass. Especially against scrubs. A KISS moment.

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Run first then pass. Especially against scrubs. A KISS moment.

He knows the run game is there if he needs it, which he did and went to it. I don't see anything wrong with starting the game off a little differently especially against a bad team

 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

He knows the run game is there if he needs it, which he did and went to it. I don't see anything wrong with starting the game off a little differently especially against a bad team

 

I see plenty wrong. He went away from the strength of his team. Running the ball is their identity. Ideally you put the bad team away early on a short week like this to try and avoid playing the starters for too long. We had guys playing well into the 2nd half and had some significant injuries as a result. Ask yourself. What would Belicheat have done? Would he had said.. hey let's try and pass even though I know I can run down your throat. Hell no. He would run it until you stop him. That's the one thing I like about Belicheat. He knows when to just get what he can take instead of getting cute. Siriani got cute and it looked abysmal yet again for a 1/2 of football.

14 minutes ago, judunno said:

I see plenty wrong. He went away from the strength of his team. Running the ball is their identity. Ideally you put the bad team away early on a short week like this to try and avoid playing the starters for too long. We had guys playing well into the 2nd half and had some significant injuries as a result. Ask yourself. What would Belicheat have done? Would he had said.. hey let's try and pass even though I know I can run down your throat. Hell no. He would run it until you stop him. That's the one thing I like about Belicheat. He knows when to just get what he can take instead of getting cute. Siriani got cute and it looked abysmal yet again for a 1/2 of football.

It wouldn't look as bad if the QB could actually pass. 18 passes to 11 runs isn't a terrible ratio. 

Either way they are trying to figure out a passing game with Hurts. This didn't Brady where you know what you have. 

If we already knew what we had in Hurts then sure, do what you can to put them away with the run. 

7 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

It wouldn't look as bad if the QB could actually pass. 18 passes to 11 runs isn't a terrible ratio. 

Either way they are trying to figure out a passing game with Hurts. This didn't Brady where you know what you have. 

If we already knew what we had in Hurts then sure, do what you can to put them away with the run. 

We have already established that he can't actually pass consistently, has trouble seeing the field, makes bad reads, and stares down his receivers. He does however have the Eagles record for rushing TDs by a QB. I count 3 runs to the running backs in the first 3 series. Of the first half runs 1 carry to Scott that was a give up run on 3rd and 15 to set up  a missed Elliot FG. Another was a QB scramble by Hurts. I simply don't like coaches that don't play to their team's strength. Hard for me to give Siriani credit when this whole board was calling what he should be doing since Week 1. Getting behind that beast of an OL and pounding teams into submission. The formula to getting this team to playoff contention.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

We have already established that he can't actually pass consistently, has trouble seeing the field, makes bad reads, and stares down his receivers. He does however have the Eagles record for rushing TDs by a QB. I count 3 runs to the running backs in the first 3 series. Of the first half runs 1 carry to Scott that was a give up run on 3rd and 15 to set up  a missed Elliot FG. Another was a QB scramble by Hurts. I simply don't like coaches that don't play to their team's strength. Hard for me to give Siriani credit when this whole board was calling what he should be doing since Week 1. Getting behind that beast of an OL and pounding teams into submission. The formula to getting this team to playoff contention.

I get where you are coming from and completely understand it. I don't think this season started off with them just doing whatever it took to get to the playoffs. I think most knew this was an evaluation year and they were exploring exactly what this team was.

Lurie and Howie clearly prefer a pass first team and they all came to their senses and realized they won't get that with Hurts. 

Don't get me wrong that was absolutely ridiculous the little amount they were running to start the year but, I'm not gonna freak the hell out over a 30 something year old coach needing time to get it all straightened out. Even with that they are still in position to make the playoffs when no one thought they could even win 4 games. 

Also for the Giants game I think they were trying to build on Hurts confidence since he had a decent game passing against the WFT. 

Anyways he figured it out so who cares what he did to start his rookie coaching season. 

19 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

He is winning with a RB as a QB so yeah give the guy some credit.

Why is making the RB throw so much to start the game? LOL

19 hours ago, Procus said:

One critical element missing from the offense to day was Hurts the runner.  I suspect that it's due to his ankle.  Was good to have the defense step up and take advantage of a depleted Giants team.

I am not sure it is the angle. In the last few weeks, Hurts made a concentrated effort to go through progressions instead of resorting to run.  I like it. I just wish Siri would call the game to the Team strengths with less pas, pass,pass and out.

On 12/27/2021 at 2:32 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think that's something to watch though. 4 weeks on from first hurting that ankle he's still struggling (not a surprise as I believe high ankle injuries are pretty bad). I thought he looked less mobile yesterday than he did on Tuesday? Maybe that's due to the short period between games and not much rest?

The short period certain did not help.  This is a team that has adjusted considerably since the season started to where they win their last two, they are IN. 

I assume Sirianni saw something about the Giants defense, perhaps from the first game in which the Eagles scored only 7 points, that he thought they could exploit in the passing game.  And if that is so, it’s actually not clear to me he was wrong — if not for the atrocious dropped passes (which were 100% on the receivers), those first couple of drives may have been successful.

7 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said:

I assume Sirianni saw something about the Giants defense, perhaps from the first game in which the Eagles scored only 7 points, that he thought they could exploit in the passing game.  And if that is so, it’s actually not clear to me he was wrong — if not for the atrocious dropped passes (which were 100% on the receivers), those first couple of drives may have been successful.

I agree with you to an extent. Like I can see why Siriani called the plays he did. He obviously saw something he felt he could get after and called the plays accordingly. It was the execution that was the issue in the first half and the awful play of the QB. That said though... The run game is what has seen us win like 6 of the last 8. The run game is the best in the league and is matching run games from historic years. The Giants D is ranked like 26th against the run so just do what has made you so good the last few weeks. 

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I agree with you to an extent. Like I can see why Siriani called the plays he did. He obviously saw something he felt he could get after and called the plays accordingly. It was the execution that was the issue in the first half and the awful play of the QB. That said though... The run game is what has seen us win like 6 of the last 8. The run game is the best in the league and is matching run games from historic years. The Giants D is ranked like 26th against the run so just do what has made you so good the last few weeks. 

Sometimes coaches get too cute for their own good. Just do what got you to the dance. I know these teams they’re playing aren’t good so he’s probably trying to get the best he can out of the situation. He’s putting pressure on Hurts to make plays against lesser teams. The results are mixed, but mostly positive. 5 total tds, passer rating over 100, and two blowout victories, but also slow starts combined with fumbles. Hurts needs to find a way to be more consistent, because he’s going to have to be able to make throws to win games. Of course the guys around him aren’t helping too. Bad drops, yet another touchdown called back due to a penalty and now that he can’t run as much due to the injury he’s getting sacked more. An uncharacteristic missed field goal by Elliott too. This team is still figuring things out as a group. It’s not all one player, but Hurts will get the brunt of the blame. He’s the quarterback so everyone will look at him. Funny though it seems like for Hurts things are reversed. Guys like McNabb and Wentz received all of the accolades and little to no blame for mistakes. Hurts gets all the blame and none of the accolades. Same people gush over Mishew like he won seven of the teams 8 wins and not vice versa. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Guys like McNabb and Wentz received all of the accolades and little to no blame for mistakes

McNabb got no blame??? Almost everyone on this board when there is someone to blame even say " I blame McNabb" even when it has nothing to do with football lol. They do that to be funny because of all the blame and hate McNabb gets and got. 

McNabb is plenty hated and blamed more then he should and I'm not even a McNabb fan myself. 

On 12/27/2021 at 2:00 PM, Bwestbrook36 said:

He knows the run game is there if he needs it, which he did and went to it. I don't see anything wrong with starting the game off a little differently especially against a bad team

 

Reid used to do that where he'd have his scripted plays and some things he wanted to test out against the defense in the 1st quarter.  I don't mind if you're trying to see what works and doesn't, evaluate what type of looks the defense is giving you and then making adjustments for the 2nd quarter and beyond.

The key there is the adjustments.  And to give Siri credit, he has made some adjustments.  There have been creative play calls as well which was lacking last year.

We have to remember he's a rookie head coach and is learning on the fly as he's never called plays before.  Going from 4 wins to potentially making the playoffs is very successful.  Of course they had a weaker schedule and some of the teams were playing with backup QBs and all that, but you play who you're matched up with can't control that.

What will really be telling are the offseason moves.  After the staff evaluate the season, the approach to free agency, draft and any potential coaching changes.  And how the scheme and playbook develop.  Then you factor in the other teams evaluating him and his tendencies and that chess match strategy of it.  Will he plateau or continue to improve, or will be be "figured out" and not do as well.  It's an ongoing evaluation. I give him credit for keeping the team competitive and focused and not letting a slow start bother them but keep working to improve.  

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Reid used to do that where he'd have his scripted plays and some things he wanted to test out against the defense in the 1st quarter.  I don't mind if you're trying to see what works and doesn't, evaluate what type of looks the defense is giving you and then making adjustments for the 2nd quarter and beyond.

The key there is the adjustments.  And to give Siri credit, he has made some adjustments.  There have been creative play calls as well which was lacking last year.

We have to remember he's a rookie head coach and is learning on the fly as he's never called plays before.  Going from 4 wins to potentially making the playoffs is very successful.  Of course they had a weaker schedule and some of the teams were playing with backup QBs and all that, but you play who you're matched up with can't control that.

What will really be telling are the offseason moves.  After the staff evaluate the season, the approach to free agency, draft and any potential coaching changes.  And how the scheme and playbook develop.  Then you factor in the other teams evaluating him and his tendencies and that chess match strategy of it.  Will he plateau or continue to improve, or will be be "figured out" and not do as well.  It's an ongoing evaluation. I give him credit for keeping the team competitive and focused and not letting a slow start bother them but keep working to improve.  

I don't think they expected to be in the hunt for the playoffs but, here we are. So I think they are somewhat stuck between still doing things to evaluate your talent for the future and now doing things you need to do So you can get your young growing team into the playoffs. 

I still don't believe Siri was that stupid that he didn't want to run hardly ever and didn't realize he needed to do that to win. I think he was asked to try something,  probably numbers they got from analytics. It didn't work so they let him do it his way. It's a bit conspiracy theory stuff going on there on the last oart lol. 

The dude can coach, and seems like a good balance between a "players coach” and a hard ass. From everything we’ve seen/heard, the players seem to enjoy playing for him but he’ll also get on them when necessary. 
 

I think the creativity in the offense has really opened up over the second half of the season. Using more motion, the Slay decoy play, Lane TD, and the overall play designs are good. 

Overall, I think we should all be pretty optimistic about the future with Siri at the helm. 

I could probably post this in any topic, but this seems the best fit:

It's hard to believe we have the chance to possibly end the regular season with 10 wins. You wouldn't think that with all the doom and gloom radio, blogs, tweets, and posts we've been subjected to all season. 

What is our playoff scenario? If Vikings lose are we officially in?

1 minute ago, wrestlevessel said:

What is our playoff scenario? If Vikings lose are we officially in?

No. I think we need Vikings to lose and Niners to win OR NO to lose. 

Makes no sense. We beat Saints head to head so we should be in as long as Vikings lose.