2 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

I think there's a decent chance he'd be there with our pick from Miami, especially if Miami loses this week which would guarantee that pick would be no lower than #14.  But if there is a DL Howie covets sitting there, he'd take the DL.

Yeah, he plays such a specific position and would only fit certain schemes (like Kelce) it’s possible he drops. I’m just worried about one team falling in love with him and grabbing him before us. 

This sounds like a Howie line of thinking...I blew two first WR...BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME!

There was a report that the Eagles offered Smith-Schuster a multi year deal before he decided to go back to Pittsburgh. Is it possible they make another offer with him coming off an injury season and the Steelers being in flux? He’s still only 25 and he probably doesn’t cost as much. 

On 1/4/2022 at 11:41 AM, time2rock said:

I've stated in other threads, no way am I giving up multiple 1s for any position other than a QB (in any given year ... though I don't want this to be the year we make a move for a QB).  

Worked out pretty well with Jason peters

35 minutes ago, Milkman420 said:

Worked out pretty well with Jason peters

First, let’s use what might have been considered a one in a million type deal.  Second, it wasn’t … we didn’t give up multiple 1s … we gave up a 1, 4, and 6 for JP.  

13 minutes ago, time2rock said:

First, let’s use what might have been considered a one in a million type deal.  Second, it wasn’t … we didn’t give up multiple 1s … we gave up a 1, 4, and 6 for JP.  

I didn’t even read your whole post lol I thought it just said multiple picks.  But you’re right it’s not worth it but if we could get Myles garret or jamaar chase or chase young or Ramsey(a couple years ago when he was younger.) I think I could find certain situations where the reward of years of benefits outweigh the 2 firsts it costs to get them.  I’d probably only do it for rookie deal type players though or missing pieces to complete teams. 

Dallas has to play their starters against backups to feel good about themselves. So sad. 

Lol 

Adams would never play here.  He will go where his QB goes.  WR is not a 1st round position with few exceptions.  You get them in the 2nd to 3rd round if you know what you are doing.

On 1/6/2022 at 8:22 PM, Miami said:

We really need 2 great DE's that can come off the edge and wreck the QB.  Would improve our defense immensely.  Shaq Barrett-type players.  

Yeah but gannon wouldn't use them properly.

On 1/8/2022 at 7:47 PM, EazyEaglez said:

There was a report that the Eagles offered Smith-Schuster a multi year deal before he decided to go back to Pittsburgh. Is it possible they make another offer with him coming off an injury season and the Steelers being in flux? He’s still only 25 and he probably doesn’t cost as much. 

I remember that, then remember it was shot down a day or 2 later.  He'd be a good-get for the Eagles as well.  I'm really hoping they can get a good WR in FA so we can focus on D in the draft.

Nah

2 hours ago, weko said:

Adams would never play here.  He will go where his QB goes.  WR is not a 1st round position with few exceptions.  You get them in the 2nd to 3rd round if you know what you are doing.

That’s the problem. Howie generally doesn’t  know what he is doing with regard to receivers. 

multiple first rounders for a non QB is how you end up in NFL purgatory.

1 hour ago, QBhunter58 said:

multiple first rounders for a non QB is how you end up in NFL purgatory.

When those first rounders are the only ones you have and span 2 years, yes.  But, in this scenario, we are only giving up "extra" first rounders...so, no purgatory in the sense that I think you mean it.

5 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

That’s the problem. Howie generally doesn’t  know what he is doing with regard to receivers. 

I wonder how much better our WR corp would be if he followed the guidance from the scouts to a tee and not go by the board he sets (and ignores the owner's voice in his ear).  

21 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I wonder how much better our WR corp would be if he followed the guidance from the scouts to a tee and not go by the board he sets (and ignores the owner's voice in his ear).  

I don’t know where the organization stood on Metcalf, but sounds like we’d at least have Jefferson. 

I wonder much much it would cost to trade for Calvin Ridley?  

4 hours ago, QBhunter58 said:

multiple first rounders for a non QB is how you end up in NFL purgatory.

 

2 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

When those first rounders are the only ones you have and span 2 years, yes.  But, in this scenario, we are only giving up "extra" first rounders...so, no purgatory in the sense that I think you mean it.

But Howie has neglected the D for so long, we really need to spend at least 2 of our firsts and probably our second as well on the D, otherwise we are going to have a serious talent deficit in the next couple of years.

1 hour ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

But Howie has neglected the D for so long, we really need to spend at least 2 of our firsts and probably our second as well on the D, otherwise we are going to have a serious talent deficit in the next couple of years.

There's no doubt about it they need to invest heavy on defense. They need to invest heavy and they need to invest early on defense. 

Roll over one of the 1sts to 2023.

Draft BPA between DE, LB, CB, S and C in the first three rounds. Rest of the draft focus BPA with emphasis on defense. 

Go after a Vet WR (Robinson, Kirk, JuJu, M Williams) and TE (Everett, Schultz, Cook, Ertz) in FA. Re-sign Nelson to a 1 year deal. 

On 1/10/2022 at 10:22 AM, QBhunter58 said:

multiple first rounders for a non QB is how you end up in NFL purgatory.

Well the Rams have given up multiple firsts for numerous players, and they have been a consistent playoff team. If you’re using firsts to draft a bunch of bust players then it doesn’t really matter that much anyway. 

I'd be all for trading at least one of the first round picks for an established defensive difference maker. 

21 hours ago, Philthy Jawn said:

I wonder much much it would cost to trade for Calvin Ridley?  

I keep hearing at least a first, but that seems a lot to me for a receiver with injury problems and possible mental health stuff too. Interestingly this article had the Eagles as his number one landing spot. I just think Philly is alway considered the number one landing spot for every available player even if Howie rarely makes any of these trades.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/calvin-ridley-trade-rumors-ranking-nine-potential-landing-spots-for-the-falcons-wide-receiver/

On 1/4/2022 at 11:22 AM, EaglesAddict said:

This might be categorized for "I want the Eagles to Get"...but I thought it would be an interesting topic to think about or debate.  If we mostly agree that adding a blue-chip free agent talent at WR will be high on Howie's free agency to-do list, what would you think about this?

Assuming Davante Adams gets franchise-tagged (as is rumored) and Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay (because if he stays, no way Adams leaves), would you try to pry Adams away from GB by signing him and having to give up 2 first rounds picks?  We'd still have a "normal" draft haul after a move like this and obviously Adams is a stud.  But, is he worth that price for this team for next season?  

The thought is definitely tantalizing to have him paired with Smith.  Our offense could be a juggernaut just by adding him.  And, draft picks are dart throws, right? 

We can win with Hurts. It's silly to spend any capital on a draft (or trade for a) QB this year, with a weak field and so many other needs.