Eagles lost to Dallas 6-0 in 2017

[DaTruth]

That loss was the last meaningless game of the 2017 season. The Birds went on to win the SB that year. The theme of their season was based on being the underdogs. The team was saddled with injuries, lost their starting QB,  and the next man up mantra along with dog masks carried the team to victory.

Is there something in my borough's water or does this team have a little of the same swagger/feel to them?

Call me crazy, but this team, playing with house money, could make some noise in the post season.....

 

 

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[EagleJoe8]

That team was also the best in the NFL that year and was a much greater unit than any one individual player. Not the best comparison. 

[Procus]

Big deal.  Andy Reid's Eagles used to rest starters for final regular season games when they clinched HFA.  What did that get them?

[Captain F]

2 hours ago, DaTruth said:

 

Call me crazy

 

 

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Thats 1 word we could use.............

[Mr_Philly]

The three times that the Eagles went to the Super Bowl they played the Vikes in the playoffs so we are screwed because the Vikings missed the playoffs this year.

[NJWolverEagle11]

Not exactly apples to apples...

[Wallyhorse]

The fact THIS Eagles team is even IN the playoffs speaks volumes.

They really have nothing to lose since no one expected them to even be here. 

[Vileborg]

The regular season is for the players. They get paid and get notoriety and, if they do well, we love them and buy their ish. The post season is where these guys can become legends in this town. This is where they can put their name on the tips of our tongues for generations. This is where their deeds can have them immortalized in our minds and in statues. This is where they elevate from being a favored player to be the subject of myths and legends. This is where history is made and players are immortalized. They have only to reach out and grab it.

[DaTruth]

I think many of you are missing the point. The 2017 Eagles were underdogs in the post season. They fed off that and used it as a rallying point.

I believe the same theme exists this year. At the start of this season, the Eagles were a 4-6 win team based on schedule, new coach...etc.

Sitting at 2-5 roughly midway thru the season, it appeared that the 4-6 win prediction was accurate. Along comes the Sirianni epiphany towards the run game and the rest we all know. 

The Birds exceeded expectations and are in the post season. Few media types hold any belief that the Eagles will win against the GOAT. I understand the difference between 13-3 and 9-8, but the underdog role is as fitting this season as it was in 2017. 

I definitely believe the eagles will win Sunday. The reason is because they are being overlooked. 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, DaTruth said:

That loss was the last meaningless game of the 2017 season. The Birds went on to win the SB that year. The theme of their season was based on being the underdogs. The team was saddled with injuries, lost their starting QB,  and the next man up mantra along with dog masks carried the team to victory.

Is there something in my borough's water or does this team have a little of the same swagger/feel to them?

Call me crazy, but this team, playing with house money, could make some noise in the post season.....

2017 the Eagles were the #1 seed and had home field advantage through the playoffs.

[Wallyhorse]

5 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

I think many of you are missing the point. The 2017 Eagles were underdogs in the post season. They fed off that and used it as a rallying point.

I believe the same theme exists this year. At the start of this season, the Eagles were a 4-6 win team based on schedule, new coach...etc.

Sitting at 2-5 roughly midway thru the season, it appeared that the 4-6 win prediction was accurate. Along comes the Sirianni epiphany towards the run game and the rest we all know. 

The Birds exceeded expectations and are in the post season. Few media types hold any belief that the Eagles will win against the GOAT. I understand the difference between 13-3 and 9-8, but the underdog role is as fitting this season as it was in 2017. 

I definitely believe the eagles will win Sunday. The reason is because they are being overlooked. 

Wouldn't it be funny if the Eagles won Sunday, then won next SATURDAY in Green Bay (it would be Saturday as the Eagles are the lowest seed and they would not have the AZ-LAR winner play the next-highest remaining on four days rest), with the Cardinals and 49ers ALSO winning on the road this week with the 49ers winning that game and then hosting the Eagles in an NFC Championship game between the two lowest seeds?  It would mean that week 2 game would turn out to be the difference in who hosted it. 

[Iggles_Phan]

11 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

I think many of you are missing the point. The 2017 Eagles were underdogs in the post season. They fed off that and used it as a rallying point.

I believe the same theme exists this year. At the start of this season, the Eagles were a 4-6 win team based on schedule, new coach...etc.

Sitting at 2-5 roughly midway thru the season, it appeared that the 4-6 win prediction was accurate. Along comes the Sirianni epiphany towards the run game and the rest we all know. 

The Birds exceeded expectations and are in the post season. Few media types hold any belief that the Eagles will win against the GOAT. I understand the difference between 13-3 and 9-8, but the underdog role is as fitting this season as it was in 2017. 

I definitely believe the eagles will win Sunday. The reason is because they are being overlooked. 

That is not a reason for a team to actually win a game.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

There's really no comparison here. That team were the best in the league. They were angry at being underdogs because they were the #1 seed. This is different. We are underdogs for good reason. 

[DaTruth]

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is not a reason for a team to actually win a game.

Have you ever watched or heard of an upset where the underdog beat the better team? Have you ever hear any football coach or player talk about playing down to the level of their opponent? Or looking past the current game to the next week?

I really surprised at some of the comments on here. Do you know what psychology is and how it's applicable to human competition?

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

The reason is because they are being overlooked. 

Tom Brady is not an overlooking an opponent kind of guy.  And you don't think he remembers his last Super Bowl loss being to the Eagles ??

[NOTW]

The year the Eagles won the Super Bowl I drank a lot of Eagle Rare Bourbon during every playoff game.  

 

That's as relevant to the Eagles success as the #1 seed resting starters in a meaningless game in 2017 with different coaches and mostly different players.  Nevertheless, I will still be drinking every playoff game...just to be safe...ya know, for the team.  

[Devaster]

41 minutes ago, downundermike said:

2017 the Eagles were the #1 seed and had home field advantage through the playoffs.

Exactly. They were being disrespected that year despite being the #1 seed because they lost Wentz to season-ending injury. They aren't being disrespected this year. They are rightfully the 7th seed and they are that seed for a variety of reasons. Any other NFL season and they wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

Players can certainly try to motivate themselves into believing they are being disrespected, but it isn't a real thing this season. Being an underdog when you are the 7th seed is logical and exactly how books set the line.

[DaTruth]

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

There's really no comparison here. That team were the best in the league. They were angry at being underdogs because they were the #1 seed. This is different. We are underdogs for good reason. 

The 2017 Eagles lost Wentz in week 14. Losing the QB who took the team to an 11-2 record is a valid reason to doubt the team's future and view them as underdogs. No one could predict that Foles could lead the team to a SB victory. So in short, the 2017 team were underdogs for a good reason too.  A coach will use the underdog label to motivate his team regardless of how fair or appropriate it is. You use everything you can to motivate. The underdog Giants (10-6) won a Superbowl after beating the #1 seed Patriots (16-0).

[Iggles_Phan]

27 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

Have you ever watched or heard of an upset where the underdog beat the better team? Have you ever hear any football coach or player talk about playing down to the level of their opponent? Or looking past the current game to the next week?

I really surprised at some of the comments on here. Do you know what psychology is and how it's applicable to human competition?

Yup.  I know all of that. Those types of situations don't work that way in the playoffs.  No team looks past another in the playoffs.  Underdogs can win, but not because they are being overlooked.  Everything you just talked about is related to regular season games, not one and done playoff games.  

 

 

[DaTruth]

40 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Tom Brady is not an overlooking an opponent kind of guy.  And you don't think he remembers his last Super Bowl loss being to the Eagles ??

I'm glad you know how Brady thinks.  Brady lost to the Giants in SB 42. He then lost again to the Giants in SB 46. So how he remembers losses or responds to them is open for debate. The GOAT was blanked by the Saints 6-0 and lost twice to them. If someone was to tell me that Brady would be held scoreless in a game, I would have laughed at them. Maybe we're talking about two different Bradys?

 

[Bwestbrook36]

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

The year the Eagles won the Super Bowl I drank a lot of Eagle Rare Bourbon during every playoff game.  

 

That's as relevant to the Eagles success as the #1 seed resting starters in a meaningless game in 2017 with different coaches and mostly different players.  Nevertheless, I will still be drinking every playoff game...just to be safe...ya know, for the team.  

I ate a cheese steak every eagles game the whole season except for the losses of course. I'm still the fattest I've ever been from that season of gluttony

[DaTruth]

46 minutes ago, Devaster said:

Exactly. They were being disrespected that year despite being the #1 seed because they lost Wentz to season-ending injury. They aren't being disrespected this year. They are rightfully the 7th seed and they are that seed for a variety of reasons. Any other NFL season and they wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

Players can certainly try to motivate themselves into believing they are being disrespected, but it isn't a real thing this season. Being an underdog when you are the 7th seed is logical and exactly how books set the line.

I understand your point. But where I differ is that the Eagles can use the 8.5 line as motivation. Vegas is saying that the Birds have a slim chance of winning the game. You're looking at what constitute a fair assessment. The coaching staff and players don't look at it as a fair/not fair, they view it as not many believe in them due to their record, strength of schedule, coaching, etc. If I understand you correctly, you're stating that the underdog label is legitimate and using that for motivation is not real?  I would love to hear you give a team a pregame pep talk.

 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

I understand your point. But where I differ is that the Eagles can use the 8.5 line as motivation.

They didn't use it as motivation when the Bucs were favored by 7 in Philadelphia ............................................

[VaBeach_Eagle]

8 hours ago, Procus said:

Big deal.  Andy Reid's Eagles used to rest starters for final regular season games when they clinched HFA.  What did that get them?

 

[Devaster]

17 minutes ago, DaTruth said:

I understand your point. But where I differ is that the Eagles can use the 8.5 line as motivation. Vegas is saying that the Birds have a slim chance of winning the game. You're looking at what constitute a fair assessment. The coaching staff and players don't look at it as a fair/not fair, they view it as not many believe in them due to their record, strength of schedule, coaching, etc. If I understand you correctly, you're stating that the underdog label is legitimate and using that for motivation is not real?  I would love to hear you give a team a pregame pep talk.

 

They are an underdog for sure. And they can rally around that. But they aren't being disrespected like they were in 2017. They were the #1 seed in 2017 and the underdog in all their playoff games. Underdog? Sure. Disrespected? No.