I’m tired of hearing about how much they wanted Russell Wilson in 2012

[Jordan629]

"In 2012, we had a vision,” Roseman said. "We had a vision that we would draft a quarterback who’s been extremely successful, and I don’t want tampering charges on me but I think we can understand who that was, and then come back in the fourth round and draft a quarterback who won a world championship for us and go back-to-back. And I feel like we got a little cute. And I don’t know that there’s a big difference between taking the 53rd pick in the draft and taking a pick in the third round if you feel strongly about a guy”

For those of you that don’t know, this topic has come up again. If they wanted Russ so badly, why did they wait until the 3rd only to see him get drafted before their pick? Eagles selected Foles at 88, Wilson went 75. If they wanted Wilson SO badly, how much would a trade up in the 3rd have cost? This is why I’m sick of hearing so much about it still. If they really based their draft on a QB in the 3rd round then they didn’t want him THAT badly. They had two 2 rounders that year. If you liked Wilson that bad, I don’t see how you valued Curry or Kendricks over him. It just seems like revisionist BS to me.

[Madriver]

It's total BS trying to justify this year's shocking 2nd rounder.

Still...thank heavens we got Foles.

[EaglePhan1986]

He’s a serial killer anyway 

[Br3]

It does sound stupid at this point because the qb they did select ended up winning us a sb...it’s not like they took Christian ponder that year 

 

[Diehardfan]

Start another thread so we can talk about it even more

Totally agree though. If they wanted him they should have gone up and gotten him. It worked out though. Foles won them the Super Bowl I thought I'd die before seeing.

 

[JohnB]

Hindsight being 20/20, we made the right choice. 

[LeanMeanGM]

They didn’t think anyone would draft a 5’10” QB that early and predicted him to drop. Could be BS but could also be legit. Banner always wants to play smarter than everyone else so it wouldn’t surprise me.

[Br3]

Wilson is a great qb but he has the same number of rings as the guy they took that year 

[VaBeach_Eagle]

Honestly, I'm glad things worked out how they did. Do we win a Super Bowl with Wilson? I don't know. I think Andy sticks around for a longer period and possibly is still with us, if we take Wilson in 2012.

I'm satisfied with how things worked out though.

[Runtherock]

Agreed, Nicky6 won us our first Lombardi ever with a brilliant, amazing, magical performance. Enough with Wilson ..

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

The thing that irritates me with the Russell Wilson story brought up over and over again and even after listening to Banner on the ITB podcast today, you had three picks to take him in the first two rounds. You had a first and two second round picks and yet you still didn’t take him. If you loved him so much And thought he was a franchise QB you would’ve just taken him knowing he was that good of a quarterback. Instead they waited around and just because "talked to everyone around the league” and knew he would be there at 88. And then were shocked when the Seahawks took him. If you love a quarterback that much were you think he’s going to be great there’s no reason you’re waiting it’ll pick 88 to take him. Especially knowing Vic couldn’t stay healthy and was close to the end rather than in his prime. The eagles are using what Russell Wilson has done In the nfl and playing it like they knew he’d just become that great. They probably thought he’d be good fit and Reid did like him as a project to build with his tools to be a good starter. But i call BS they knew he’d be a top 5 QB. If they did they take him over kendricks or curry. And now we’re trying to use that to justify this pic when there’s less of a chance hurt comes close to being Wilson 

[ManchesterEagle]

There’s no way the Eagles knew Russell Wilson was going to be what he is, anymore than the Pats knew about Tom Brady. They may have had him ideally as their third round pick, but that’s it.

[Cochis_Calhoun]

The whole story is nonsense, they were convinced Wilson was good enough to be a franchise guy,  they talked to everyone around the league and they didn't think that a team that the year previously had Tarvaris Jackson and clipboard Jesus starting might be in the market for at least a developmental QB in a draft where Brandon Weedon went first round at 29 years of age

[Traveler Vic]

If you want someone really bad..Go get him! Don't waist your draft ammo on the short term veteran. I was biting my nails from the 14th pick down..waiting for Eagles to move up and snatch Lamb...But they did not..and they settled for a good WR..instead of consensus #1 WR. We will see how this works out. If we would have had that 3rd pick and 5th we traded for Slay, we would have had the ammo to move up and get Lamb. Just saying.

[birdman#12]

It would have been the worst thing in the world for Wilson to be drafted by the eagles then.  He wouldn't have made a difference in Reid's last year and who knows what Kelly would have done with him.  It's easy to see the kind of player he is now, but as a 3rd round rookie, he may never have been given a decent chance with an organization going thru major coaching and FO changes.

[EagleJoe8]

11 minutes ago, birdman#12 said:

It would have been the worst thing in the world for Wilson to be drafted by the eagles then. He wouldn't have made a difference in Reid's last year and who knows what Kelly would have done with him.  It's easy to see the kind of player he is now, but as a 3rd round rookie, he may never have been given a decent chance with an organization going thru major coaching and FO changes.

I’ll preface this by saying I’m glad things turned out how they did, but with regard to the bolded line, it’s possible, not certain but possible if Wilson is as dynamic here as he was in Seattle in his rookie year, it could have led to 2012 NOT being Reid’s final year. Even with Lurie’s claim after the 2011 season that 8-8 was unacceptable, if Lurie sees Reid has a young dynamic QB to work with, he may have felt compelled to not fire him after the 2012 season especially if Wilson helps to lead the team to more than 4 wins. 

[birdman#12]

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I’ll preface this by saying I’m glad things turned out how they did, but with regard to the bolded line, it’s possible, not certain but possible if Wilson is as dynamic here as he was in Seattle in his rookie year, it could have led to 2012 NOT being Reid’s final year. Even with Lurie’s claim after the 2011 season that 8-8 was unacceptable, if Lurie sees Reid has a young dynamic QB to work with, he may have felt compelled to not fire him after the 2012 season especially if Wilson helps to lead the team to more than 4 wins. 

Anything is possible, but I just couldn't see Reid, knowing his job was on the line, going to a rookie QB.......and like I said, who knows what Kelly would have done.

Like you, I'm glad things turned the way they did, with the exception of how Foles was treated.  Kelly was a f------ moron to trade him........to a sh-- organization, a lousy HC....for Sam Bradford?  WTF?

[Bwestbrook36]

2 hours ago, Traveler Vic said:

If you want someone really bad..Go get him! Don't waist your draft ammo on the short term veteran. I was biting my nails from the 14th pick down..waiting for Eagles to move up and snatch Lamb...But they did not..and they settled for a good WR..instead of consensus #1 WR. We will see how this works out. If we would have had that 3rd pick and 5th we traded for Slay, we would have had the ammo to move up and get Lamb. Just saying.

What does any of this thread have to do with lamb? They obviously didn't want lamb get over it. 

[jsdarkstar]

Howie pretty much compared Hurts to Wilson.

[jsdarkstar]

2 hours ago, Traveler Vic said:

If you want someone really bad..Go get him! Don't waist your draft ammo on the short term veteran. I was biting my nails from the 14th pick down..waiting for Eagles to move up and snatch Lamb...But they did not..and they settled for a good WR..instead of consensus #1 WR. We will see how this works out. If we would have had that 3rd pick and 5th we traded for Slay, we would have had the ammo to move up and get Lamb. Just saying.

Atlanta pretty much said they weren't going to make a deal. It takes two teams to make a trade.

[EagleJoe8]

6 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Atlanta pretty much said they weren't going to make a deal. It takes two teams to make a trade.

But it doesn’t matter what Atlanta wants. It’s well known that as long as a small contingent of EMBers wants a deal to happen, the other 31 teams are compelled to comply. If a deal doesn’t happen, it’s cause we didn’t try to make it happen. 

[e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!]

10 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Atlanta pretty much said they weren't going to make a deal. It takes two teams to make a trade.

Said this in the blog last week, the worst case situation for the eagles actually happened which was wirfs, becton And kinlaw all fell in this draft. The jets weren’t moving out with wirfs and becton still on the board. They were going to take one of them.

The niners didn’t want to miss out on kinlaw and bucs needed a tackle and wirfs fell where they could move up and deal with the niners who could still get kinlaw moving back one pick. If wirfs doesn’t fall tampa likely doesn’t trade up and is more than likely the trade partner you needed to move up to get Lamb. The Broncos didn’t want to move back if jeudy was on the board. The Falcons never move back and wanted a corner probably cause they knew mike mayock who loves Clemson players was likely to take terrell at 19 if they did move back to 21. The team that made the most sense to trade up with was tampa but unfortunately one of the top 4 tackles fell to 13 and at that point tampa wanted him and with kinlaw on the board the niners could make that deal still get kinlaw. 

[toolg]

It seemed to me like the Eagles were content with any of Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, or Kirk Cousins. They picked one in Round 3, then perhaps they would have taken another one if he dropped to their pick in Round 4. Seahawks picked Wilson first at #75, the Eagles got Foles at #88, then the Redskins picked Cousins with the first pick of Round 4 #102.

Can you imagine instead if the Eagles took Wilson in Round 3, then Cousins in Round 4?

Does it save the Eagles from going 4-12 and AR losing his job? Probably not. What happens in the Chip Kelly era with those QBs?

[Jordan629]

5 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

There’s no way the Eagles knew Russell Wilson was going to be what he is, anymore than the Pats knew about Tom Brady. They may have had him ideally as their third round pick, but that’s it.

Exactly. And their smugness has lead them to framing this for the last 8 years like they did know. 

[Gator 12]

I heard a rumor we wanted Russell Wilson in the 2012 Draft