Offseason plan

[NOTW]

Move Howie to business side. Fire Weidl, get someone over personnel.

Fire Gannon.

Cut JJ-AWFUL & Reagor.

Sign veteran WR.

Trade Sanders for whatever pick you can get.

Use one of the 1st rounders to trade back to get a 2023 1st.  Draft a QB in 2023. Unless you can get a QB upgrade this offseason. 

Draft defense high this year.

Get QB in 2023.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

This is going to be a long but interesting off season. 

I have no idea where this team goes from here. 

The D lacks top end talent. The QB is not good enough. They have 3 first round picks but not in great spots. So yeah not a great outlook. 

[Bwestbrook36]

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Move Howie to business side. Fire Weidl, get someone over personnel.

Fire Gannon.

Cut JJ-AWFUL & Reagor.

Sign veteran WR.

Trade Sanders for whatever pick you can get.

Trade a 1st back to get a 2023 1st, draft a QB in 2023. Unless you can get  a QB upgrade this offseason. 

Draft defense high this year.

Get QB in 2023.

Looks like the same plans for the last 10 yrs

[EazyEaglez]

I really need to see a veteran wide receiver, and I’d like to see Howie trade down with at least one of these picks for 2023. What I don’t want to see is the Eagles throwing 30-40 mil at a quarterback. All that will lead to is a mediocre football team, and Howie being forced to "kick the can down the road” again to just get that guy under the cap. 

[Uscg-green]

Drinking and golf

[kiwieagle]

46 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I really need to see a veteran wide receiver, and I’d like to see Howie trade down with at least one of these picks for 2023. What I don’t want to see is the Eagles throwing 30-40 mil at a quarterback. All that will lead to is a mediocre football team, and Howie being forced to "kick the can down the road” again to just get that guy under the cap. 

WR needs to be addressed. Would be ideal to have a veteran presence (Allen Robinson / Juju probably the most realistic options that hit the market). But if we can't land them, may be forced to go down the draft route again. I love Burks' game.

If they aren't addressing QB this year, I 100% want them to flip a pick into this year. I am okay with if they bring back Hurts for another year to see if he improves but they need to hedge their bet on that one. Reasonably probable outcome he is what he is now which isn't good enough to be the long-term answer.

[xxeaglesfanxx]

4 hours ago, NOTW said:

Move Howie to business side. Fire Weidl, get someone over personnel.

Fire Gannon.

Cut JJ-AWFUL & Reagor.

Sign veteran WR.

Trade Sanders for whatever pick you can get.

Trade a 1st back to get a 2023 1st, draft a QB in 2023. Unless you can get  a QB upgrade this offseason. 

Draft defense high this year.

Get QB in 2023.

How many of these things will happen? My guess is 1 maybe 2.

[kiwieagle]

Just now, xxeaglesfanxx said:

How many of these things will happen? My guess is 1 maybe 2.

My views:

Howie will stay.

Gannon will be back.

One of JJAW and Raegor is back for at least TC (probably Raegor).

We will have  a new WR#2 but I am not sure if its another 1st Rd pick or FA signing

They may trade Sanders but I don't think so

I do think Howie will roll one of the 1st to 2023 if we go again with Hurts. They aren't going to be sold on him based on the play this year for the long-term

They will draft a pass rusher in Rd 1

[Godfather]

Put Hurts in a shelter 

[Bwestbrook36]

3 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Put Hurts in a shelter 

Lol, I'm not a fan of moving forward with hurts but, damn man you are brutal 🤣

[xxeaglesfanxx]

2 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

My views:

Howie will stay. Probably

Gannon will be back. Hopefully not

One of JJAW and Raegor is back for at least TC (probably Raegor). Reagor is probably back 🙄

We will have  a new WR#2 but I am not sure if its another 1st Rd pick or FA signing I’d draft but if there’s a good free agent there they need someone.

They may trade Sanders but I don't think so I’d be fine with it. Howard and Scott are just fine.

I do think Howie will roll one of the 1st to 2023 if we go again with Hurts. They aren't going to be sold on him based on the play this year for the long-term I’d be fine with that as well. The more picks the better.

They will draft a pass rusher in Rd 1

 

[Godfather]

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Lol, I'm not a fan of moving forward with hurts but, damn man you are brutal 🤣

I'd pay for his uber ride there

[Bwestbrook36]

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I'd pay for his uber ride there

I'm starting to feel.the same way about Russ Westbrook lol

[Godfather]

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm starting to feel.the same way about Russ Westbrook lol

Starting? I'd send that mf to a shelter in Russia

[Bwestbrook36]

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Starting? I'd send that mf to a shelter in Russia

I tried being patient but, it's just not happening. 

[DaEagles4Life]

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm starting to feel.the same way about Russ Westbrook lol

Told you in the beginning of the year Russ was not a good move lol

[Godfather]

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

I tried being patient but, it's just not happening. 

It's over brah. Unless they move him which I doubt

[opa-opa]

I want someone to ask Siriani who his #1 QB for next year and see what he says.

[mayanh8]

1. Gannon isn't going anywhere unless the Eagles lose him to a HC job.

2. Use two 1st round draft picks on DE and OL/DL.

3. Trade one 1st round pick for extra picks in 2023.

4. Use FA or trade market to sign a legit WR1/2. Not saying Smith isn't a WR1 but Hurts is trash and needs more talent around him than most QB's.

5. Try to find some LB talent in the draft somewhere. 

6. Use the extra 2023 picks to draft a real QB in 2023.

[Bwestbrook36]

1 minute ago, opa-opa said:

I want someone to ask Siriani who his #1 QB for next year and see what he says.

I don't think that's a fair question to ask him right now. It will be a generic answer if he is asked though

[kiwieagle]

Just now, opa-opa said:

I want someone to ask Siriani who his #1 QB for next year and see what he says.

They will back Hurts all the way up to the point they find his replacement (if they do this off-season). They have nothing to gain by saying anything else at this stage.

Reality I think is that if they can get an upgrade at a reasonable cost, they will pull the trigger but are fine with rolling with him for at least another year if that doesn't happen.

[Random Reglar]

3 hours ago, xxeaglesfanxx said:

 

 

The Eagles need to UPGRADE at the Running Back position.

For all the whining about Jalen Hurts,  who took the Eagles from a 4 win to a 9 win team,  who has taken the Eagles to the playoffs 100% of the time.

Sanders + Howard + Gainwell + Scott is not good enough as a group.

When you're a run first team you really want to have top quality running backs.

The Eagles have the run blocking oline, the have the running QB,  but they'd be much better off if the quality of the running back room is high.  There should be a big fast and powerful back,  top quality,  like Chubb or Taylor or Barkley or Fournette or Henry.  That type of big and fast.  Great.  A rushing yards leader type but the heaviest one.

People are ****ing about Hurts,  what happened to the run game? Sanders was 7 carries for 16 yards.  When you have a running QB, and a great run blocking oline,  you should be able to make it work, and the Eagles have, but it gets harder in the playoffs.   Need a great running back. 

Otherwise, stay the course.   9-8 is good.  Look it up.  There are a handful of QBs who make the playoffs pretty much every year.   And there's a bunch of first round picks who rarely make the playoffs.

9-8 in his first year as the primary starter.   Playoffs.  That's a really good result,  one you want to keep.   2 more years of Hurts as a cheap starter should be good years.

Keeping the front office, keeping the coaches,  adding talent.   Maybe the Eagles 53 next September has fewer small WR/RBs.   Maybe all the tiny WRs and all the tiny RBs can learn the other position too,  so the Eagles wouldn't have to keep so many small players.
Or something. 

Smith and Goedert are good though.  

Just in general,   not so many 200-210 rbs and wrs.   Reagor and Sanders are about the same size and speed.  have reagor do what sanders does and have sanders do what reagor does and get rid of somebody.    It's good to have players like that,  but you don't need quite so many.    In theory,   you have Smith and Goedert getting 90% of the snaps.  Hurts with 100%.   It would be nice to then have "great, big, fast, running back"  The Eagles don't have that.   Maybe that's Fournette.  I'll say Fournette.  If I can get a good deal in a trade for Barkley,  I'd try that one.   But  new great big fast running back.  run first team, you know.

Ok, Hurts, Smith Goedert Fournette.   Do that a lot.

Then you want other players, a variety.  You don't need 5-10 short, light, fast rb/wrs. 

You want size.  You want blocking.  You want a FB or someone who can do what a FB does.   Someone like Ravens pro bowl FB,  300 pound Patrick Ricard.   Kelce is capable of doing that job.  But, you know, Center.    The Ravens also have a 270 pound TE who is good at run blocking.  The Ravens lack top quality run blocking OL that the Eagles have but the Ravens have those 2 key additional blockers,   TE and FB, that the Eagles don't.   The Eagles should be finding 2 functional equivalents to Ricard and Boyle.  I said week 1 that's a problem, a lack of size and or blocking ability from the skill positions.  I would like a 250-300 pound FB who can do all kinds of blocking, and can run the ball (optional).   The Eagles should have run plays where they simply dominate based on size and the ability to block.   Having a big and fast back like Fournette allows you to take a normal run and turn it into a huge gain.   Those big and fast backs have a surprisingly high top speed.   You have 5 great ols,  have the Ricard FB and the Boyle TE, Hurts and Fournette and Smith and Goedert.   At other times you don't want the Ricard/Boyle combo on the field.   And there's a lot of smaller wr/rbs to go on the field when the blockers like ricard and boyle are off the field.   A run first team with a running QB just made the playoffs.  Make the run game better by having more than 5 good blockers on the field.   Have them on the team, and then on the field,  when the run offense isn't working well.  Hurts is not a great passer, he doesn't need to be.  He is good enough.    But not good enough to win against the Bucs,  when the run game was non existent.    Needs more run blockers.   I mention a number of times about how those OLs who are sitting are better at football than some of the wrs who are out there playing.   Pushing players like Opeta or Dillard onto the oline, and one or more of Lane, Kelce, Mailata (or others)  into the end or back spot to mostly block.  I suggested that many times,  annoying many.   But getting a 300 pound FB like Ricard,  that's something that gets that run game working against a playoff level team.  And a 270 pound TE like Boyle.   
 

[The Blackfish]

4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I don't think that's a fair question to ask him right now. It will be a generic answer if he is asked though

Doesn’t matter because its not his choice, Howie sets the 53, not Nick, and it’s not like Nick can guarantee Hurts will be a volume passer next season.  
 Worse for Nick is knowing he was on his way to being one and done until he decided to run the ball 60% of the time.  

[Random Reglar]

4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I don't think that's a fair question to ask him right now. It will be a generic answer if he is asked though

Or he says "Hurts"

Yeah,  going 9-8 and the playoffs is easy to do with any QB.  And Hurts only costs a million a year, and will cost that for the next 2 years.  Yeah,  do something different than that.

2 more years of cheap QB who is good enough to get the Eagles into the playoffs.   After 2 years,  figure out if you want to pay him more.   

Hurts takes the Eagles to the playoffs 100% of the time.   I'm not sure exactly how 100% can be "upgraded" or whatever it is.

If there is an answer computer or something,  and you want a "keep or not" answer,  and there are 2 pieces of data they look at,   and those pieces of data are "playoffs or not" and "yearly cost",   it would be very hard to find a QB in the NFL who gets a better score in the "keep or not" answer computer.

There are QBs who are better.  They are all more expensive.

There is not a cheaper QB who took his team to the playoffs this year.  Hurts is at 100% taking his team to the playoffs. 

There is a legit argument to be made that Siri just says Hurts, and theres no question about that.

[Damanick10]

Try to trade back on one of the firsts and get another one next year. Go heavy on the defense and get Nakobe Dean please god. Use the firsts next year to get a top QB prospect. Honestly if Malik Willis or Corral drops to us it would be hard not to take one.