6 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Genuine question with all your constant Jeffery stuff, what is it you want the team to do at WR? 

Comes down to how you see this year going I guess? I think we need a major overhaul at WR and so I'd like to see the new guys get a real opportunity. Build for the future and see what we have there because Alshon won't be around beyond this next year. 

On 6/4/2020 at 5:43 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Comes down to how you see this year going I guess? I think we need a major overhaul at WR and so I'd like to see the new guys get a real opportunity. Build for the future and see what we have there because Alshon won't be around beyond this next year. 

What new guys? Reagor will get every opportunity, Alshon isn't blocking him. How many 5th/6th rounders even catch a touchdown in the NFL, let alone become legitimate NFL starters?

And Alshon may well be gone next year, but not necessarily. He is only 30 and will be only 31 next year. If he comes back and stays healthy and play well, why do we have to get rid of him? We are taking the cap hit anyway.

10 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

What new guys? Reagor will get every opportunity, Alshon isn't blocking him. How many 5th/6th rounders even catch a touchdown in the NFL, let alone become legitimate NFL starters?

I think though we have to remember that this was such a good WR class that in other years Hightower and Watkins likely go higher. 

9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think though we have to remember that this was such a good WR class that in other years Hightower and Watkins likely go higher. 

Yeah that's a fair point, but they would potentially be late 3rd/4th rounders in most years at best?

Either way, of the scouting reports I've read, both are seen as depth/developmental pieces. Hightower for example struggles with drops and contested catches. He's fast but doesn't have burning speed. Then you add in this aborted offseason, where they are not going to get as much time with the team and the chances of them being effective in meaninful snaps on offense are very slim in my view.  

Every player we picked up at WR has problems with drops. Yes even our prize first round pick. They are all projects. Its all about scheme fit. Hightower is prob the best of the bunch if he can change the way he catches the ball. Hes a arm/body catcher. That is his prob with drops. Now as for Jeffery historically hes been good with drops with the exception of 2018 which he lead the team in drop %, yes even over Nelson. Granted Nelson had a few more games played. 2019 He only played 9 games and had his highest drop % of catch able balls at 7% in his career. His shoulder has been a issue. 

So really its a crap shoot on every WR we have. Until I see games played and how these new guys fit the scheme I cant say we improved at WR at all. 

There was a picture of Alshon on ESPN - he looks jacked. He's talking to all the young receivers. Apparently rehab is going well. 

A first four WR group of Desean, Alshon, Ward and Reagor sounds good to me. Add in Ertz, Goedert and Sanders and Wentz should be in good shape this year.

22 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

There was a picture of Alshon on ESPN - he looks jacked. He's talking to all the young receivers. Apparently rehab is going well. 

Well let's see. If that's true, if he's in good shape and he's helping the young receivers in anyway that he can then let's see what he can potentially contribute. Ultimately he's going to be here so the best result is that he can help the young receivers and he can produce.

  

On 6/22/2020 at 8:43 AM, Sack Exchange said:

corey davis' best quality = he serves as a reminder that college talent and draft capital do not automatically translate into immediate NFL production.

for everyone looking to draft this 2020 rookie class as "can't fail" WRs, consider corey davis' profile:

draft pick 1.05, breakout age 18.7 (96th percentile), a guaranteed NFL day 1 success sure thing:

• Superb run-after-the-catch skills
• Consistent play-maker
• Great route-runner; sudden out of breaks
• Quick release off of the line
• Great hands
• Deceptive speed
• Can challenge defenses vertically
• Breaks tackles; gets yards after contact
• Good red-zone weapon
• Wins 50-50 passes
• Vertical jump, leaping ability
• Has the strength to outfight defensive backs
• Rarely ever drops a pass
• Physical
• Tracks the ball well
• Late hands
• Excellent body control
• Long arms
• Attacks the football
• Sneaky push off skills
• High points the ball well
• Adept at finding soft spots in zone
• Quality size
• Gritty player; plays with an attitude
• Ready to contribute quickly
• Quality blocker
• Durable; plays hurt

that said, if you're a die-hard believer with a bench spot to burn: buy dirt cheap in dynasty, wait for his rookie contract to end, hope he gets traded to a pass-heavy team in 2021 matched with some needy QB (watson, rodgers). low-risk highish-reward.

Post from a fantasy football forum.

 

On 6/6/2020 at 11:36 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think though we have to remember that this was such a good WR class that in other years Hightower and Watkins likely go higher. 

Draft class evaluations are always very hit and miss. Just because last year was good (which was unexpected) and this year is touted to be good (might not be the case) doesn't mean the team should let any WR play just because this year's class was touted. Reagor will get every opportunity. The other guys need to prove they deserve to be on the field.

And in other seasons those guys likely go lower because there aren't as many runs on the WR position because the class isn't as touted. And draft position is ultimately meaningless. Either guys can play or they can't. Playing them for the sake of playing young talent is a stupid idea.

10 hours ago, Devaster said:

The other guys need to prove they deserve to be on the field.

I certainly don't disagree with you there. I just want to see them get opportunities that's all I am saying. 

On 6/6/2020 at 4:06 PM, ManchesterEagle said:

What new guys? Reagor will get every opportunity, Alshon isn't blocking him. How many 5th/6th rounders even catch a touchdown in the NFL, let alone become legitimate NFL starters?

And Alshon may well be gone next year, but not necessarily. He is only 30 and will be only 31 next year. If he comes back and stays healthy and play well, why do we have to get rid of him? We are taking the cap hit anyway.

Alshon is 100% gone next year. 

4 minutes ago, nipples said:

Alshon is 100% gone next year. 

I think 99.999999% of Eagles fans can agree and see that. Only 1 person thinks Alshon has chance at being a Eagles in 2021, lol. 

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

I think 99.999999% of Eagles fans can agree and see that. Only 1 person thinks Alshon has chance at being a Eagles in 2021, lol. 

I think it's extremely likely yeah that they move on. They'll take any cap hit at that point and will move on. But I guess if he balls out this year then maybe they'll stick with him a little while longer?

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think it's extremely likely yeah that they move on. They'll take any cap hit at that point and will move on. But I guess if he balls out this year then maybe they'll stick with him a little while longer?

Jeffery, Malik Jackson, Desean Jackson and Brandon Graham are all in the same situation. All four players have huge cap hits next year that almost ensure that they will be cut, and none of them are going to get paid very much on the open market due to their age. So if the Eagles want to keep them, they have a lot of leverage in negotiating extensions.

Obviously if the team's young receivers do well, it doesn't make sense to keep Jeffery or DJax. Graham and Malik might be kept for a few more years since there's really no one behind them and they can probably still be really effective playing about 40 percent of the snaps as they get older.

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Jeffery, Malik Jackson, Desean Jackson and Brandon Graham are all in the same situation. All four players have huge cap hits next year that almost ensure that they will be cut, and none of them are going to get paid very much on the open market due to their age. So if the Eagles want to keep them, they have a lot of leverage in negotiating extensions.

Yeah and so there's always the option of them being restructured and extended depending on what they give the team in 2020.

2 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

I think 99.999999% of Eagles fans can agree and see that. Only 1 person thinks Alshon has chance at being a Eagles in 2021, lol. 

You still haven't said that you will eat crow if Alshon plays this year. Or have you changed your mind?

On 6/21/2020 at 7:34 AM, ManchesterEagle said:

There was a picture of Alshon on ESPN - he looks jacked. He's talking to all the young receivers. Apparently rehab is going well. 

A first four WR group of Desean, Alshon, Ward and Reagor sounds good to me. Add in Ertz, Goedert and Sanders and Wentz should be in good shape this year.

That WR corps will be Ward and Reagor by week 3.  Or even worse, Alshon might actually play all year.

16 hours ago, eagle45 said:

That WR corps will be Ward and Reagor by week 3.  Or even worse, Alshon might actually play all year.

Way to fire up the same argument all over again lol. 

19 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Way to fire up the same argument all over again lol. 

On 6/25/2020 at 7:58 AM, DeathByEagle said:

I think 99.999999% of Eagles fans can agree and see that. Only 1 person thinks Alshon has chance at being a Eagles in 2021, lol. 

I SERIOUSLY doubt it will happen, but if Alshon puts up a 100 plus catch season, double digit touchdowns, and over 1000 yards how do you not bring him back? My point is although I agree the chances of Jeffery and Jackson being Eagles in 2021 are almost nil, there is a chance it still could happen. 

44 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I SERIOUSLY doubt it will happen, but if Alshon puts up a 100 plus catch season, double digit touchdowns, and over 1000 yards how do you not bring him back? My point is although I agree the chances of Jeffery and Jackson being Eagles in 2021 are almost nil, there is a chance it still could happen. 

Considering he has never done any of those things in the same season for his career I would say it's definitely not happening in this offense

On 6/25/2020 at 6:18 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think it's extremely likely yeah that they move on. They'll take any cap hit at that point and will move on. But I guess if he balls out this year then maybe they'll stick with him a little while longer?

Like I've mentioned before, the Eagles really feel they have to have that "type" of WR in this offense. If Jeffery ends strong this year and JJAW still disappoints, they won't take a cap hit and move on. If JJAW looks like he's ready to replace Jeffery, they could decide to move on for 2021. 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Considering he has never done any of those things in the same season for his career I would say it's definitely not happening in this offense

I agree, but let’s just see how things turn out. Depending on how successful or poorly the team does this season could have a lot of implications for 2021 for a lot of players and not just Alshon.

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I agree, but let’s just see how things turn out. Depending on how successful or poorly the team does this season could have a lot of implications for 2021 for a lot of players and not just Alshon.

I would agree with that as well. The way things are going we may not even have a full season or one at all to answer any of these questions

32 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I would agree with that as well. The way things are going we may not even have a full season or one at all to answer any of these questions

Yeah I agree with that too. I think player safety is important, but I’m hoping they can find a way to make this all work. Honestly I’m not even sure how I will feel watching quiet games. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah I agree with that too. I think player safety is important, but I’m hoping they can find a way to make this all work. Honestly I’m not even sure how I will feel watching quiet games. 

I know for the NBA they have games without a broadcast and even that is boring as hell. I can only imagine how awful it will be without fans especially without football fans