Procus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/01/top-senate-gop-leader-calls-for-impeachment-of-philly-da-larry-krasner.html Top Senate GOP leader calls for impeachment of Philly DA Larry Krasner Updated: Jan. 19, 2022, 5:53 a.m. | Published: Jan. 18, 2022, 7:14 p.m. By Jan Murphy | jmurphy@pennlive.com The top Republican in the Pennsylvania Senate is calling on Republican leaders in the House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner. In a letter sent on Tuesday, Senate President Pro Tempore Jake Corman, R-Centre County, attributes the spike in violent crime in Philadelphia to the city’s progressive prosecutor’s "failed policies and his refusal to perform the duties of his office to hold criminals accountable for the crimes that they commit.” Corman went on in the letter to say Krasner’s "decision to allow more and more criminals to walk free through plea deals and dismissed charges has created an environment in which Philadelphians are no longer safe in their own homes and communities.” A spokesman for House Republicans said they are reviewing Corman’s request. Meanwhile, spokeswoman for Krasner’s office fired back, attacking Corman and Pennsylvania Republicans for not doing more to prevent gun violence. "They’ve created fewer sustainable jobs, deepened poverty, gutted public education, and destroyed social services,” said Jane Roh, a spokeswoman for Krasner’s office. "They’ve made Pennsylvania less productive, less economically attractive to workers and businesses, and less healthy and safe.” She added: "Larry and the Philadelphia voters who support him understand that investing in people -- through education to affordable housing to health care to fair wages -- makes our communities safer. Jake Corman would rather point fingers at someone who’s been in office for four years than take accountability for what he’s failed to deliver for the past 25 in a seat he inherited from his father.” Corman’s letter to House Speaker Bryan Cutler, R-Lancaster County; House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Centre County; and House Judiciary Committee Chair Rob Kauffman, R-Franklin County, comes as Philadelphia set a record last year for having the most homicides ever in a single year. The crime wave in Philadelphia has impacted members of the General Assembly, Corman said. He pointed out Philadelphia Democratic Sen. Sharif Street’s cousin was murdered last year. Street’s district office was struck by a rash of bullets in a shooting last month. Additionally, U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon was carjacked at gunpoint in December. "As elected officials of this commonwealth, we cannot turn a blind eye to DA Krasner’s clear dereliction of duty,” Corman said. "Meaningful action must be taken to restore a sense of security to the communities and families that have been negatively impacted by his negligence.” Krasner’s spokeswoman and Street both pointed out Krasner trounced his primary opponent by a 2-1 margin. He beat his Republican opponent A. Charles Peruto 3-1, winning especially high margins in areas suffering from high rates of gun violence. Street called Corman’s call for Krasner’s impeachment "grossly inappropriate. I think for the General Assembly to attempt to substitute its judgment for the judgment of the people of Philadelphia would be an outrage.” Krasner is less than 30 days into being sworn into office for a new term. Street said, "We have to respect what the people have suggested in all elections, including this one.” The House GOP spokesman said the General Assembly has provided more resources to Philadelphia’s prosecutors including giving the attorney general’s office concurrent jurisdiction to prosecute gun crimes. "What is abundantly clear is Philadelphia’s unchecked violence is a direct failure of city leaders and the district attorney to take most basic necessary steps to keep Pennsylvanians safe,” said House GOP spokesman Jason Gottesman. "We are glad to see the Senate join us in our efforts to hold Larry Krasner responsible for his abysmal failure to enforce the law.” Jan Murphy may be reached at jmurphy@pennlive.com. Follow her on Twitter at @JanMurphy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blazehound Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Procus said: https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/01/top-senate-gop-leader-calls-for-impeachment-of-philly-da-larry-krasner.html Top Senate GOP leader calls for impeachment of Philly DA Larry Krasner Updated: Jan. 19, 2022, 5:53 a.m. | Published: Jan. 18, 2022, 7:14 p.m. By Jan Murphy | jmurphy@pennlive.com The top Republican in the Pennsylvania Senate is calling on Republican leaders in the House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner. In a letter sent on Tuesday, Senate President Pro Tempore Jake Corman, R-Centre County, attributes the spike in violent crime in Philadelphia to the city’s progressive prosecutor’s "failed policies and his refusal to perform the duties of his office to hold criminals accountable for the crimes that they commit.” Corman went on in the letter to say Krasner’s "decision to allow more and more criminals to walk free through plea deals and dismissed charges has created an environment in which Philadelphians are no longer safe in their own homes and communities.” A spokesman for House Republicans said they are reviewing Corman’s request. Meanwhile, spokeswoman for Krasner’s office fired back, attacking Corman and Pennsylvania Republicans for not doing more to prevent gun violence. "They’ve created fewer sustainable jobs, deepened poverty, gutted public education, and destroyed social services,” said Jane Roh, a spokeswoman for Krasner’s office. "They’ve made Pennsylvania less productive, less economically attractive to workers and businesses, and less healthy and safe.” She added: "Larry and the Philadelphia voters who support him understand that investing in people -- through education to affordable housing to health care to fair wages -- makes our communities safer. Jake Corman would rather point fingers at someone who’s been in office for four years than take accountability for what he’s failed to deliver for the past 25 in a seat he inherited from his father.” Corman’s letter to House Speaker Bryan Cutler, R-Lancaster County; House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Centre County; and House Judiciary Committee Chair Rob Kauffman, R-Franklin County, comes as Philadelphia set a record last year for having the most homicides ever in a single year. The crime wave in Philadelphia has impacted members of the General Assembly, Corman said. He pointed out Philadelphia Democratic Sen. Sharif Street’s cousin was murdered last year. Street’s district office was struck by a rash of bullets in a shooting last month. Additionally, U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon was carjacked at gunpoint in December. "As elected officials of this commonwealth, we cannot turn a blind eye to DA Krasner’s clear dereliction of duty,” Corman said. "Meaningful action must be taken to restore a sense of security to the communities and families that have been negatively impacted by his negligence.” Krasner’s spokeswoman and Street both pointed out Krasner trounced his primary opponent by a 2-1 margin. He beat his Republican opponent A. Charles Peruto 3-1, winning especially high margins in areas suffering from high rates of gun violence. Street called Corman’s call for Krasner’s impeachment "grossly inappropriate. I think for the General Assembly to attempt to substitute its judgment for the judgment of the people of Philadelphia would be an outrage.” Krasner is less than 30 days into being sworn into office for a new term. Street said, "We have to respect what the people have suggested in all elections, including this one.” The House GOP spokesman said the General Assembly has provided more resources to Philadelphia’s prosecutors including giving the attorney general’s office concurrent jurisdiction to prosecute gun crimes. "What is abundantly clear is Philadelphia’s unchecked violence is a direct failure of city leaders and the district attorney to take most basic necessary steps to keep Pennsylvanians safe,” said House GOP spokesman Jason Gottesman. "We are glad to see the Senate join us in our efforts to hold Larry Krasner responsible for his abysmal failure to enforce the law.” Jan Murphy may be reached at jmurphy@pennlive.com. Follow her on Twitter at @JanMurphy. Applaud their effort. Would love to see it but it will never happen. Philadelphia D’s will not swallow their pride and allow this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_TATEr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 philly voters re-elected this tool. at least something right happened down at city hall with henon gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 9:51 PM, Blazehound said: Applaud their effort. Would love to see it but it will never happen. Philadelphia D’s will not swallow their pride and allow this to happen. If he were impeached by the legislature the language in the PA Constitution is pretty clear that the Governor SHALL remove the elected civil officer (DA for example) from office. It doesn't matter what Philadelphians want. It's not up to them once the non-exempt official is impeached. A governor might resist for a time due to partisan concerns, but in the end that Governor must obey the Constitution just like anyone else or be deemed derelict in his/her duties. § 7. Removal of civil officers. All civil officers shall hold their offices on the condition that they behave themselves well while in office, and shall be removed on conviction of misbehavior in office or of any infamous crime. Appointed civil officers, other than judges of the courts of record, may be removed at the pleasure of the power by which they shall have been appointed. All civil officers elected by the people, except the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, members of the General Assembly and judges of the courts of record, shall be removed by the Governor for reasonable cause, after due notice and full hearing, on the address of two-thirds of the Senate. (May 17, 1966, 1965 P.L.1928, J.R.10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Krasner sucks and I hope he gets gone. But I don't think state legislators should be empowered to impeach local office holders. I'd be surprised if the courts allowed it, though IANAL. The legislation above appears to be the state legislature voting themselves the authority to impeach locally elected officials. Has that power ever been exercised? If not, I would bet that the legislature's authority to impeach a local official would be successfully fought in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 PA is weird apparently: https://whyy.org/articles/removing-local-elected-officials-is-harder-in-pa-than-almost-anywhere/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: PA is weird apparently: https://whyy.org/articles/removing-local-elected-officials-is-harder-in-pa-than-almost-anywhere/ The article talks about local recall elections, not State oversight. What it says is absent State action under the State constitution, it's hard to accomplish a recall election in PA. That's true, and makes sense because the primary authority for removing an elected local official is the impeachment process described in the PA Constitution. I think the approach in PA is to not give the oversight for local corruption/ineptitude to the local authorities, but have as neutral a process at the State level as is possible to be a check and balance on local malfeasance. The PA Constitution sets out the impeachment process for non-exempt elected officials and once impeached by the legislature, the Governor has no choice but to remove the non-exempt elected officer from office. That approach prevents the impeached from refusing to leave office, and prevents a sympathetic Governor from refusing to remove the impeached officer, which is something neither of them respectively should be able to do anyway. As I understand it in PA, if you're impeached, you're done. I'm good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I don't like that amount of authority for statewide legislators to oversee local elected officials. State level is definitely not a neutral process IMHO, and it'd be far too easy for local officials to get away with shenanigans because frankly state legislators don't care unless they can make political hay out of it. Most states empower local voters by holding recall elections if enough popular support is drummed up, usually via collection of signatures. That seems a far better approach than state legislatures determined in part by gerrymandered districts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobeph Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Krasner ❤️‘s criminals. Is what it is. /thread 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 hours ago, PoconoDon said: If he were impeached by the legislature the language in the PA Constitution is pretty clear that the Governor SHALL remove the elected civil officer (DA for example) from office. It doesn't matter what Philadelphians want. It's not up to them once the non-exempt official is impeached. A governor might resist for a time due to partisan concerns, but in the end that Governor must obey the Constitution just like anyone else or be deemed derelict in his/her duties. § 7. Removal of civil officers. All civil officers shall hold their offices on the condition that they behave themselves well while in office, and shall be removed on conviction of misbehavior in office or of any infamous crime. Appointed civil officers, other than judges of the courts of record, may be removed at the pleasure of the power by which they shall have been appointed. All civil officers elected by the people, except the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, members of the General Assembly and judges of the courts of record, shall be removed by the Governor for reasonable cause, after due notice and full hearing, on the address of two-thirds of the Senate. (May 17, 1966, 1965 P.L.1928, J.R.10) The law speaks for itself. Politically, this looks like a non-starter, although he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Procus said: The law speaks for itself. Politically, this looks like a non-starter, although he deserves it. I don't expect it to happen. I was just pointing out the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iladelphxx Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Philly has more homicides than Chicago so far this year (34 vs 32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 hours ago, iladelphxx said: Philly has more homicides than Chicago so far this year (34 vs 32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 So is it back to Killadelphia or is it too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iladelphxx Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: So is it back to Killadelphia or is it too soon? When did it stop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: When did it stop? Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 This would be a great solution to the liberal DA problem if it worked. Of course impeachment and removal is even better. https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-da-chesa-boudin-sued-asian-attack-victim-anti-aapi-hate-crimes San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin sued for turning back on Asian attack victim as anti-AAPI hate crimes soar 567% The San Francisco Police Department reports a 100% increase in hate-crime victims in 2021 compared to the previous year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazehound Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Procus said: This would be a great solution to the liberal DA problem if it worked. Of course impeachment and removal is even better. https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-da-chesa-boudin-sued-asian-attack-victim-anti-aapi-hate-crimes San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin sued for turning back on Asian attack victim as anti-AAPI hate crimes soar 567% The San Francisco Police Department reports a 100% increase in hate-crime victims in 2021 compared to the previous year Any and all pressure to get that a-hole Krasner out of office works for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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