4 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said:

I think Garappolo is actually underrated.  It would not be crazy to pick him up if in a trade of Hurts, either in the same deal or a separate one, you were able to recover similar draft capital to what you had to give up for Garappolo.

Garappolo has made a Super Bowl and two NFC championships in the past three seasons and lifetime is 33-14 with 8.4 Y/A on a 67.7% completion percentage.  Compare that to, say, Josh Allen, who lifetime is 39-21 with 7.1 Y/A  and 62.3%.  And if you are thinking, well, Allen has grown into a much better thrower at this point, the numbers do not bear that out -- this year Allen had 6.8 Y/A and 63.3% vs Garappolo's 8.6 Y/A and 68.3%, and Garappolo was in a much tougher division.  (Allen has more TDs and INTs than Garappolo but pretty close given the extra number of games he has started -- Allen of course has a big edge in rushing.)  Garappolo was not good in the playoffs this year, but he had a thumb injury and a shoulder injury which definitely affected him.

I am not saying Garappolo is a guy I covet -- he's not, including because his durability is definitely questionable -- but there are a lot worse guys out there you could have as your starting QB if that is the way it shakes out.

Bill B. was very upset when Kraft traded him...he saw him as the heir apparent to Brady...that says something...if he could just get a handle on his 1 bonehead INT per game streak...I think he would be viewed much more favorably.

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If you hang out on the Philadelphia sports corner of the internet, chances are good you've run into a jersey swap of Jimmy Garoppolo in midnight green or a tweet freaking out at Howie Roseman over some reported interest in trading for the 49ers quarterback this offseason.

Before you go nuclear, I'm here to tell you: that buzz is fabricated. Is there a tiny, theoretical chance that Roseman trades for Garoppolo? Yes, because he's an NFL player and Roseman is in charge of an NFL team. 

But this current sweep of trade noise is extremely overblown, a result of twisted words and a good look at how the internet's rumor mill can run amok.

Here's what happened.

On Monday, Sports Illustrated insider Albert Breer tossed a note at the bottom of his Monday Morning Quarterback column looking at Garoppolo's trade value. Here's what Breer wrote:

"White we're there, it's really hard to assess the trade value of Jimmy Garoppolo.  The reason?  We still don't know which quarterbacks are going to be available.  There's a good group of suitors out there ready to take a major swing at the position (the Broncos, Eagles, Panthers and Commanders)."

Here's what you should take away from this note: the Eagles are a suitor for the quarterback position as a whole, and their involvement (or non-involvement) in a trade will be part of what shapes the QB trade market - including Garoppolo's market.

Here's what you should NOT take away from this note: the Eagles are a specific suitor for Garoppolo.

But not everyone connected those dots successfully.

Later that day an extremely spicy headline was published on Outkick exclaiming "EAGLES EXPECTED TO PURSUE QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO DURING OFFSEASON" while citing Breer, who was - again - not reporting that the Eagles are specifically pursuing Garoppolo but rather are looking at the entire QB market and will be part of setting it.

And then on Friday morning, an unverified Twitter account called NFL Rumors tweeted "The Philadelphia have had rumored interest in Seahawks Russell Wilson and now we are hearing 49ers Jimmy Garoppolo as well", without any citation or explanation. The tweet generated some moderate traction.

That's a whole lot of trade chatter... that came from nowhere.

Now, for a view from someone who would know, ESPN insider Adam Schefter talked Wednesday about the Garoppolo-to-the-Eagles buzz:

"I don't see that happening.  I have not heard his name floated once.  That's not to say it couldn't happen or wouldn't happen, I just have not heard his name connected to Philadelphia."

Schefter acknowledges, as I did earlier, that it is theoretically possible for that trade to happen, just as it's theoretically possible that the Eagles could trade for any player in the league.

But for now? There's nothing to this rumor. It's smoke with no fire.

As Kendrick Perkins would say, carry the hell on.

From https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-rumors-buzz-around-eagles-jimmy-garoppolo-trade-overblown-49ers.

17 hours ago, Cheesteakitis said:

all you people saying he sucks would have loved to have been playing in the nfc championship game like him just saying!!! still not interested but he doesn’t suck.

49ers were in the championship due to multiple 1st round picks on defense.

I don't know that Jimmy G. is better than Minshew. It would be basically spinning our wheels to trade for him.  If he hadn't played behind Brady and for Belichick, I don't think he would be as valued as he is now.

1 hour ago, CaliEagle said:

I don't know that Jimmy G. is better than Minshew. It would be basically spinning our wheels to trade for him.  If he hadn't played behind Brady and for Belichick, I don't think he would be as valued as he is now.

I don't think on the whole there's much difference between them to be honest. Garrapolo is probably capable of more but he's so inconsistent. 

Why not just play Minshew then, same guy but cheaper 

That’s exactly what I would prefer, for anyone even considering Garoppolo…if the consensus ends up being that the Eagles want to move on from Hurts, I see zero benefit in bringing in another Minshew, and paying for the privilege (with picks)…

If it’s not Hurts in 2022, and they don’t go for (or don’t succeed) in bringing in a veteran QB like Wilson, then I’d rather they tried Minshew over an average stop gap QB trade.

On 2/18/2022 at 1:34 PM, eagles1st said:

According to NFL Network Jim Trotter the 49ers are looking to trade Garoppolo possibly to the Eagles.  Any additional information on this topic and is he worth a 1st round pick or maybe a 2nd?

He is more expensive than his worth.  He has one year on his contract.  He has had some injury issues.  Worth more than Minshew but not a second. Conditional fourth that could escalate to a third.  Makes no sense for a team to rent him for a year for more.

On 2/18/2022 at 4:29 PM, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Great thread. JFC.  

Dope avatar. I dig it

On 2/18/2022 at 6:22 PM, Procus said:

Just get Foles back here, let him ride the bench until Thanksgiving, and throw him in for the rest of the season and playoffs.

On certain level..this idea does have some merit.Foles could teach Hurts a thing or two, and be the best QB coach we could find. Also he will be healthy enough to Play a few months. I can see the benefits.

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't think on the whole there's much difference between them to be honest. Garrapolo is probably capable of more but he's so inconsistent. 

I think you've got the nexus of it here.  Jimmy G does have a bit of a higher upside, however, he also has more brain farts.  So really it's a bag of apples vs a bag of oranges.  They are both overall good for your health, just depends which one you can stomach better.  Since we already have a bag of Minshew without having to give up more then that bag of Jimmy G doesn't seem as good of value when we have to give up draft capital for it. 

#Minshew2022

 

@RememberTheKoy

#HurtsStillSucks

#DJaxTradedASBRingForTouches

You consistently pick the wrong players to worship.

 

1 hour ago, Green_Guinness said:

I think you've got the nexus of it here.  Jimmy G does have a bit of a higher upside, however, he also has more brain farts.  So really it's a bag of apples vs a bag of oranges.  They are both overall good for your health, just depends which one you can stomach better.  Since we already have a bag of Minshew without having to give up more then that bag of Jimmy G doesn't seem as good of value when we have to give up draft capital for it. 

#Minshew2022

 

If good Garrapolo turns up in the NFCCG then the Niners probably win that game. But he's so up and down.

On 2/18/2022 at 7:39 PM, DeathByEagle said:

You do realize Reporters always have the Eagles linked to just about every player that is avail on the trade block right? 

It seems to me many reporters don't care for the Eagles organization, all you have to do is every year look at who they suggest the Eagles draft, this year I see many saying the Eagles should draft USC's Drake London, Drake London would no doubt be Whiteside II, he's gonna be useless in the NFL. 

3 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

It seems to me many reporters don't care for the Eagles organization, all you have to do is every year look at who they suggest the Eagles draft, this year I see many saying the Eagles should draft USC's Drake London, Drake London would no doubt be Whiteside II, he's gonna be useless in the NFL. 

Well first its all these reporters first mock. They wont give up what they really believe till their final mock. Have to keep the sheep reading. Secondly, I dont care about mocks. After the first 2-4 picks its a crap shoot. Its all just for fun and keep people reading during the off season. 

13 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

After the first 2-4 picks its a crap shoot. 

As far as who's going to pick who I agree, but as far as is a given player going to be difference maker after the first 4 picks a crap shoot, I say no to that.....emphatically!!    

Personally I wouldn't touch that London guy before round 5 and you'll see many have him going in the 1st just as some had Whiteside going in the 1st.

9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

If good Garrapolo turns up in the NFCCG then the Niners probably win that game. But he's so up and down.

I'm sure some of that had to do with the injuries he was playing through. When he does play though he has an impressive win/loss record and above average passing stats. Injuries will always be a concern for him. He always appears to miss time and rarely plays 16 games.

I certainly think he would be an upgrade over both Hurts and Minshew. Did anyone here watch Minshew in Jacksonville? Dude can be all over the place, but is more than willing to throw the ball and can throw accurately, which is more than I can say for Hurts. I don't think Garrapolo and Minshew are on the same level at all. And because QB is such a coveted position I think we could easily flip Minshew if we needed to for a 6 or 7. Maybe even more. Minshew has some good games/stats on his record for 2021.

Someone is gonna whine that this thread is in the wrong spot. Then it will get buried on a sub board. 

2 hours ago, EagleVA said:

As far as who's going to pick who I agree, but as far as is a given player going to be difference maker after the first 4 picks a crap shoot, I say no to that.....emphatically!!    

Personally I wouldn't touch that London guy before round 5 and you'll see many have him going in the 1st just as some had Whiteside going in the 1st.

Guess that comment went over your head. I never said a player after the 4th pick would not be a difference maker. You can find difference makers all over the draft. The comment meant after the first 3 to 4 picks its a crap shoot on who will get picked which in turn leads to mocks being worthless other then something to read for fun. 

15 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Guess that comment went over your head. I never said a player after the 4th pick would not be a difference maker. You can find difference makers all over the draft. The comment meant after the first 3 to 4 picks its a crap shoot on who will get picked which in turn leads to mocks being worthless other then something to read for fun. 

No it didn't go over my head, I acknowledged what you said in my reply.

The reason I made the comment about after the 4th pick being a crap shoot is because many think the entire draft is a crap shoot.

As you said, you can find difference makers all over the draft, not only that, you can find difference makers as UDFAs. 

 

1 hour ago, Devaster said:

I certainly think he would be an upgrade over both Hurts and Minshew.

Would he be an upgrade? Yeah. Would he be much of an upgrade? I don't think so. So ultimately I just don't think the move makes a lot of sense... Giving up ammo of sorts to get a minimal upgrade. 

19 hours ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Why not just play Minshew then, same guy but cheaper 

Because it's click bait speculation season. And they know Eagles fans are suckers that eat it up. Every QB is always "linked" to the Eagles based on some blogger posting an idea.

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Would he be an upgrade? Yeah. Would he be much of an upgrade? I don't think so. So ultimately I just don't think the move makes a lot of sense... Giving up ammo of sorts to get a minimal upgrade. 

Fair point. It also depends on what it would take to get Garapolo. The 49ers already want to move on. They are looking for a trade offer and will take whatever they can get, because the other option is they cut him and get nothing. So it really depends on his market that will drive the price.

13 hours ago, Devaster said:

Fair point. It also depends on what it would take to get Garapolo. The 49ers already want to move on. They are looking for a trade offer and will take whatever they can get, because the other option is they cut him and get nothing. So it really depends on his market that will drive the price.

If we could get him for say a third or fourth then yeah sure! Like you say they want to move on from him and so they aren't really in a strong position. 

On 2/20/2022 at 2:58 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

If good Garrapolo turns up in the NFCCG then the Niners probably win that game. But he's so up and down.

Not that I’m defending Jimmy G, but the Niners also win if their DB hangs on to the easiest INT he’ll ever get in his career.