Insider says Hurts trade would bring Eagles a strong deal

[Procus]

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-rumors-why-insider-says-jalen-hurts-has-high-trade-value

Insider says Hurts trade would bring Eagles a strong deal

by Adam Hermann

Despite a portion of the Eagles fanbase clamoring for a Russell Wilson trade, and another portion of the fanbase musing on the potential of an incoming rookie like Malik Willis (guilty!), a bettor would be best served putting their money on Jalen Hurts being the Birds' QB1 for 2022.D

Entering his third year in the league, Hurts is coming off a totally acceptable first year as a starter and is looking to build on some much-needed continuity. It's entirely possible he takes a leap in 2022 if afforded the chance, and I think a lot of Eagles fans are banking on that upside.

But... what if this is close to the ceiling on his NFL potential? That seems relatively likely. He was a second-round pick for a reason: he doesn't have those jump-off-the-film physical traits that separate a Top 10 pick, he didn't really show a ton of growth in his weak areas from Week 1 to the Wild Card round, and I'm just not sold on that arm in today's NFL.

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If the Eagles' front office feels the same way, it sounds like they might be smart to sell high on Hurts. This offseason could be the prime time to do so, according to one insider who says the Eagles could recoup some pretty solid draft capital in a Hurts trade.

Here's what ESPN insider extraordinaire Adam Schefter said Wednesday morning during an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic's The John Kincade Show:

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"KINCADE: Could the Eagles, today, say 'We are trading Jalen Hurts, we want the 53rd pick in the draft back'?

"SCHEFTER: I think in this market absolutely. In this market, absolutely. In fact not even a question in my mind about that.

"Let's play this out. Let's say - we don't know Aaron Rodgers is staying in Green Bay, but it certainly seems like he's open to that idea. We haven't heard anything with Russell Wilson and Seattle despite the fact that there are numerous teams that would be interested. And Deshaun Watson obviously has a lot going on off the field.

"Let's just say one of those quarterbacks comes free - in fact I'll give you two. That's probably a best-case scenario, two of 'em. Now we've got Denver, Indianapolis, Tampa, Carolina, Washington, Pittsburgh. That's six teams right there. Six. So where's everybody getting their quarterback from?

"[...]

"If you're looking at Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, or Mitchell Trubisky, would you be willing to trade your second-round draft pick to Philadelphia for Jalen Hurts? Oh yeah. Oh yeah."

Maaaan, I don't know about you but if I'm Howie Roseman I've got to at least consider it. 

I really like Hurts as a person, and I like him as a placeholder starter, a bridge guy when you're looking for your next franchise QB, or basically any role that isn't The Guy for an organization.

But Roseman knows, like everyone else in the league knows, that you've got to really nail the QB position these days if you want to have staying power as an organization in the NFL. And whether that's drafting the next great QB or trading for someone we already know is great, Roseman will need as much draft capital as possible.

Do I think he would trade Hurts without directly doing one of those two things this offseason? No, I don't. Hurts is a clear upgrade from Gardner Minshew, and Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie don't seem willing to fully punt on an entire season in pursuit of a QB - especially after they just improbably made the playoffs in Nick Sirianni's first year.

But I can definitely see multiple scenarios where Roseman gets a bold idea for the QB position this offseason and subsequently sends Hurts elsewhere before the NFL Draft.

We'll see what happens.

[matchew88]

LOL

It came out in NFL Mic'd, in public, that Hurts can't read defenses.

[Procus]

7 minutes ago, matchew88 said:

LOL

It came out in NFL Mic'd, in public, that Hurts can't read defenses.

For every pot, there's a lid.  The Eagles found a trading partner for Wentz.  The Sixers found a trading partner for Simmons.

[eggs]

No way we trade Hurts for less than a 1st and more.  A first plus a conditional pick that could be a 2-4th based on playing/ performance could work. For example, Hurts made the pro bowl this year, so if he’s traded and makes the pro bowl again next year and we get a 1st and a 2nd and use them in 2023 to get the best qb in the draft, I’m ok with that. Anything less, no deal as he is a solid top 25 qb who is improving. 

[D-Shiznit]

As we just witnessed with the Wentz trade, when it comes to fleecing other teams in a QB trade, there is no one better than Howie Roseman.

[matchew88]

3 hours ago, Procus said:

For every pot, there's a lid.  The Eagles found a trading partner for Wentz.  The Sixers found a trading partner for Simmons.

Wentz had an NVP level season. Simmons was good at something. Its shown that Hurts is all scripted by Sirianni.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

It's a difficult one. On the one hand we know we have a competent starter who is in that mid tier of QBs. He's not a top tier QB (I guess there's hope he could move towards that) but he's also not one of the worst in the league. 

If they shop him though then they've got to trade him. You can't start a potential bidding war to then decide the offers weren't there so you've got to know you are going to get pretty close to what you want.

Can I see them getting a second round pick? Yeah I can. Hell I'd go as far to say I can see them getting a late first if the bidding war were to really get going. 

[Procus]

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

If they shop him though then they've got to trade him.

Why? 

[Swimm]

If someone offers a 1st or high 2nd trade his ass.  His ceiling is low and I don't think he will improve much more.

[time2rock]

There have been plenty of QBs drafted in the 1st round over the last 5-6 years that have played far worse than Hurts.  I'm not saying he is a top QB or anything crazy like that, but no way would I consider dealing him for a mid-to-late 2nd round pick.  I'm also not saying I wouldn't be open to dealing him BUT we'd have to get more than that to even consider it.  However, unless we are blown away by an offer, considering our options at QB for the upcoming season (trading multiple 1s to add an aging vet to a roster that is much more than a QB away from being a legit contender?  drafting one from a pool that is more likely to resemble the 2013 draft class where the top QBs were Glennon, Manuel,  and Geno Smith?), I think it is best to keep Hurts to either serve as a bridge QB for a season or play his way into solidifying the starting QB spot (which obviously banks on continued improvement in quite a few areas that you want a QB to excel in - not a safe assumption he can do that BUT also not a safe assumption he cannot).

[Perforator]

1 hour ago, Swimm said:

If someone offers a 1st or high 2nd trade his ass.  His ceiling is low and I don't think he will improve much more.

I agree, Howie has to jump on this if it happens.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

2 hours ago, Procus said:

Why? 

I mean look sure they could in theory still bring him back but that is not a great situation for anyone at that point. 

[Procus]

23 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean look sure they could in theory still bring him back but that is not a great situation for anyone at that point. 

I would imagine players aren't privy to all trade discussions about them.

[EricAllenPick6]

Make the QB rumors stop.  This is getting a little ridiculous.  

[EricAllenPick6]

5 hours ago, Swimm said:

If someone offers a 1st or high 2nd trade his ass.  His ceiling is low and I don't think he will improve much more.

Nobody is dumb enough to make that offer.  

If you're Pittsburg, Carolina, Denver, whatever and you can't pry Watson / Wilson / Rodgers away why would you want Jalen Hurts?  Hell, I'd rather trade a mid-round pick for Minshew.  You could probably get Carson Wentz for less than that, too.  

[birdman#12]

If you're not going to give a young QB time to develop, then there's no point in drafting one......they'll just be spinning the QB wheel again in 2 years.

If you want a veteran like rodgers or wilson.....there's a reason why they haven't won anything for 7+ years......their teams have been hamstrung by their huge contracts.  I don't give a sh-- about their HOF resumes or their huge numbers.

Spending a sh-- load of draft picks and bringing in a $35-40 million salary cap hit will cripple the eagles ability to get the talent they desperately need on defense and WR.

Tom Brady took less money than the market rate for years while winning super bowls.  Matt Stafford had a $22 mil cap hit this past year.  Mahomes has been on his rookie contract until this coming year.  Once a QB earns that monster contract, they don't win another super bowl......there's got to be a reason for that.  If these guys are "elite" QBs why can't they get their teams another championship?

Guys making over $30 million are not being paid to win super bowls.....they're being paid for big passing numbers.  The top 5 paid QBs in each year haven't won a super bowl for over 10 years.....and only 1 in the top 5 in 20 years.

Once an "elite" QB wins a super bowl and/or gets a big fat contract......his team no longer has the resources to bring in the other necessary talent to win it all.....not until, MAYBE, the QB is in the last year or 2 of that monster contract....and that's assuming that his team hasn't slid backwards in overall talent, like the seahawks have.

[Wormlegs]

18 hours ago, Procus said:

Despite a portion of the Eagles fanbase clamoring for a Russell Wilson trade

🙉 I stopped right there. Im not seeing many fans wanting this guy, especially at the price necessary to even entertain him as a prospect.