time2rock Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 NFL Draft: How much would the Eagles need to give up to trade into the top-10? By Liam Jenkins PHILADELPHIA, PA – NOVEMBER 24: Philadelphia Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is pictured during the National Football League game between the Seattle Seahawks and Philadelphia Eagles on November 24, 2019 at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, PA (Photo by John Jones/Icon Sportswire) We’re still a long way from the NFL Draft, but that doesn’t mean it’s too early to start thinking about trades…especially when the Eagles are involved. Howie Roseman has built a reputation of a notoriously tough GM to negotiate with and last offseason’s run of excellence highlight exactly why. With three first-round picks in his pocket, there’s every chance he’d move up for his guy, just as he did in 2021…but what would it take? Roseman played a masterclass in 2021. After recouping a first-round pick for Carson Wentz, the Eagles GM traded a thrid-round pick to jump the Giants and snag the Heisman-winning wideout. Having previously moved back in a trade with the Dolphins to the 12th spot, netting another first-round pick in the process, Roseman moved back up to #10, and move in front of the Giants to get Smith, spending a third-round pick to do so. With three first-round picks at his disposal, it’s easy to see a scenario where the Eagles are willing to move on from at least one of them. But what would that get them in return as far as this years’ draft goe? For that, we turn to the NFL Draft chart. It’s dated, but still used in many war rooms to this day. DraftTek made an updated 2022 version and have placed the following points values on the top-10 picks. 1 – 3000 2 – 2600 3 – 2200 4 – 1800 5 – 1700 6 – 1600 7 – 1500 8 – 1400 9 – 1350 10 – 1300 As far as Philly’s most valuable selections, they’re valued like this: 15 – 1050 16 – 1000 19 – 875 51 – 390 83 – 175 It all comes down to how high up the order Howie wants to climb. If it’s a top-five selection he wants, he’s probably going to have to give up pick 19. The fact it’s a realistic possibility, however, is actually really exciting. In theory, the Eagles could go all the way to the top if they were to throw in a player or two and use all three first-rounders. I highly doubt they will, but it just demonstrates the power that Roseman will have on draft night. There’s no reason he couldn’t shuffle up to hold a top-10 pick and pick 16, surrendering the 19th selection in a trade. As far as trades outside of the NFL Draft, all the noise has been around the QB position. We can look to the Matt Stafford trade that saw the Rams switch quarterbacks and give up back-to-back first-round picks, as well as a third-rounder. The Eagles could easily match that price and then some, giving them the inside-track should they want to explore some quarterback markets. When it comes to players who could be used as collateral, I recently wrote about five who could well be on the trade block this offseason. Fletcher Cox, Andre Dillard, Miles Sanders, Jalen Reagor, and even Jalen Hurts could have their names floated in trade discussions. It’s easy to sit back and think about how exciting the NFL draft is going to be, but it’s even more salivating when you realize just how valuable those picks are. Not only to the Eagles, but to potential trade partners around the league. https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2022/02/18/eagles-draft-10/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncphillyfan Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Pick 19 and 16 dope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, uncphillyfan said: Pick 19 and 16 dope Technically that should get them into top 4. Top 10 shouldn’t take more than 16 and our 2nd rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob331 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Don't want to touch the whole notion. Our 1st and 2nd = 1265. 10th pick is 1300. If we go to them they'll want a premuim so this won't do it. I want picks because we simply have too many needs to fill and not enough picks to fill them. Trade down and add later 1st round picks along with a couple of 2nd's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesAddict Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 The real question is who, exactly, would be worth trading up that high for? This draft seems to be loaded with a bunch of good players but none that are truly "special". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 7:28 AM, EaglesAddict said: The real question is who, exactly, would be worth trading up that high for? This draft seems to be loaded with a bunch of good players but none that are truly "special". It is one thing to use a 3rd to move up a couple spots for a WR (Smith) or a 4th and a 6th for an OT (Dillard). The only position (IMHO) that it makes sense to move up that far for is a QB and really hoping we don't do that. In particular, none of the QB prospects appear to offer the potential to be "special". My order of preference: 1) use 2 picks on defense, trade one to a team wanting to move up for a QB to get their 2023 1st (and their pick later in round 1 or early round 2) 2) use 3 picks on defense 3) use 2 picks on defense and 1 on offense (either OL or WR) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesAddict Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, time2rock said: It is one thing to use a 3rd to move up a couple spots for a WR (Smith) or a 4th and a 6th for an OT (Dillard). The only position (IMHO) that it makes sense to move up that far for is a QB and really hoping we don't do that. In particular, none of the QB prospects appear to be "special". My order of preference: 1) use 2 picks on defense, trade one to a team wanting to move up for a QB to get their 2023 1st (and their pick later in round 1 or early round 2) 2) use 3 picks on defense 3) use 2 picks on defense and 1 on offense (either OL or WR) You and I are on the same page, my man. I'd really like to get that 1st rounder for next year, hopefully from a team that has the best chance of sucking, lol. If we can't, then I definitely want the 3 first round picks to be defenders...2 DL (either DT and DE or 2 DE) and a LB named either Dean or Lloyd. I'd be good with a CB instead of LB, but man, I just want a legit playmaker at LB in the worst way. It will be excruciating to watch the draft and see the edge rushers go off the board before pick 15...there's a decent chance at least 4 go off the board in the 1st 14 picks...if 5 do, it'll be real interesting to see what Howie does. At this point, not sure how I'd feel if we ended up having to move up and give up assets to get someone like Ojabo, Karlaftis or Walker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said: You and I are on the same page, my man. I'd really like to get that 1st rounder for next year, hopefully from a team that has the best chance of sucking, lol. If we can't, then I definitely want the 3 first round picks to be defenders...2 DL (either DT and DE or 2 DE) and a LB named either Dean or Lloyd. I'd be good with a CB instead of LB, but man, I just want a legit playmaker at LB in the worst way. It will be excruciating to watch the draft and see the edge rushers go off the board before pick 15...there's a decent chance at least 4 go off the board in the 1st 14 picks...if 5 do, it'll be real interesting to see what Howie does. At this point, not sure how I'd feel if we ended up having to move up and give up assets to get someone like Ojabo, Karlaftis or Walker. Detroit is a team that I think could (should) be looking for a QB. They received quite a nice haul of high picks for Stafford and would have to think it is a safe assumption they don't feel Goff is "the guy" (that deal wasn't about getting Goff ... it was about getting those picks). They have picks 2, 32, and 34 ... if we could swing a deal with them to move up from 32 to get their QB, that would be ideal as they are likely to stink next year ... again. I agree on edge rusher with one of those 2 picks and would love a CB like Booth. If we use all 3 then as you stated a LB or another DL would be great. Can use picks 32 (if that trade scenario were to come to fruition) and 51 to grab whatever we don't get by trading down and then either S or WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 11:28 AM, EaglesAddict said: The real question is who, exactly, would be worth trading up that high for? This draft seems to be loaded with a bunch of good players but none that are truly "special". On 3/1/2022 at 12:21 PM, time2rock said: It is one thing to use a 3rd to move up a couple spots for a WR (Smith) or a 4th and a 6th for an OT (Dillard). The only position (IMHO) that it makes sense to move up that far for is a QB and really hoping we don't do that. In particular, none of the QB prospects appear to be "special". My order of preference: 1) use 2 picks on defense, trade one to a team wanting to move up for a QB to get their 2023 1st (and their pick later in round 1 or early round 2) 2) use 3 picks on defense 3) use 2 picks on defense and 1 on offense (either OL or WR) Firstly completely down with T2rocks draft preferences. I expect the Eagles to draft a DE and CB in the first as well given the needs and the depth of the positions. I also agree, I can’t see the Eagles trading into the top 10, although if they can get an extra third, then I expect them to look at moving up 2-4 spots if there is a corner or DE they love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawkins4prez Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 8:28 AM, EaglesAddict said: The real question is who, exactly, would be worth trading up that high for? This draft seems to be loaded with a bunch of good players but none that are truly "special". The value in this year's drat starts exactly in the middle of the 1st rd. stay put. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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