March 20, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, DBW said: Yeah they definitely had A/B. Shifts when my dad did that too. Now he’s a nurse and did the 4 on 3 off 12 hour thing for a while. youre right though, shortening the day on a typical 8 hour shift would negatively impact production volumes. I presonally really liked the 4/3 12 hour thing. Three day weekend every other week. And then days off during the week to take care of things. Our job would let us trade days as well with our counterpart shifts. You could also use 24 vacation hours and get 7 days off if you did it in the right week which was awesome.
March 20, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Well, it wouldn't pertain to me. I work two jobs, Paco. I'm just trying to give them the basics so some of these kids stand a fighting chance. I also started doing some volunteer coaching for the freshman football team last year, so I'm not the lazy schlep you'd like to make me out to be. 1) I didn't say anything 2) Sorry to hear that. Have you considered getting one full time job?
March 20, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, paco said: 1) I didn't say anything 2) Sorry to hear that. Have you considered getting one full time job? I’m guessing you guys are gonna do home school? Just a suggestion: it’s much more common in the South and West and you’ll be able to find more resources and activities to do if you move out of PA.
March 20, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: I’m guessing you guys are gonna do home school? Just a suggestion: it’s much more common in the South and West and you’ll be able to find more resources and activities to do if you move out of PA. Private school. Same school as several of her nieces and nephews.
March 20, 20223 yr So are you telling me I could wake up at 630 and make it into my tree stand well before shooting light? Sign me up!
March 21, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, DBW said: Yes in the 70s. car crashes were up, especially in the times people went to work in pitch black. Seems like the kind of thing that people would want in theory but in practice would hate over time. But whatever, mark me down as "don't care". Although I will say navigating DST with an 8 month old was less than ideal.
March 21, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I’m guessing you guys are gonna do home school? Just a suggestion: it’s much more common in the South and West and you’ll be able to find more resources and activities to do if you move out of PA. No.. we aren’t poor or weird.
March 21, 20223 yr 39 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: No.. we aren’t poor. @vikas83, price-check on Aisle 3: Are they poor? I'm just asking questions....
March 21, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, paco said: 1) I didn't say anything 2) Sorry to hear that. Have you considered getting one full time job? 1) It was clearly implied. 2) I'm not complaining about it, this is a good way to get my student loans paid off a few years early. I'm just saying that your "lazy teachers" gripe wouldn't apply to me.
March 21, 20223 yr Quote Why people hated permanent daylight saving time when the U.S. last tried it It was still dark when most Americans set off for work and school the morning of Jan. 7, 1974. Commuters grumbled about having to descend to the subways and report to work without glimpsing the sun. Some kids carried flashlights on their way to school. One woman was so overwhelmed, she simply went back to bed. "It’s the end,” Terry Minz, of Long Island, N.Y., told the New York Times. "I can’t cope anymore. The comet, the energy crisis, now darkness. I’m just staying in bed.” So it went the last time the United States took a run at year-round daylight saving time. The experiment, which meant a sunrise of 8:30 a.m. or later for large swaths of the nation, proved short-lived. Amid a swell of public displeasure and a series of early-morning traffic fatalities, Congress voted to undo the change 10 months in. Almost 50 years later, the idea is back. The Senate voted this week to end the twice-annual practice of "springing forward” and "falling back,” setting the stage for daylight saving time to last all year. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a co-author of the bill, called it "an idea whose time has come.” Senate votes unanimously to make daylight saving time permanent Lawmakers from both parties championed the legislation, which still requires passage by the House of Representatives and a signature from President Biden. They argued that the clock-changing ritual carries health and safety risks. And, they pointed out, many Americans hate it. "Today the Senate has finally delivered on something Americans all over the country want — to never have to change their clocks again,” said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), another co-author. That was true the last time, too. At least in the beginning. When federal officials pitched the concept, the nation was in the grips of an energy crisis because of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries declaring an oil embargo. Grasping for solutions, lawmakers made daylight saving time permanent from January 1974 until October 1975. Clocks would "spring forward” and not "fall back” for almost two years. The thinking was that fuel consumption would go down as Americans used the extra evening sunshine for heat and light. President Richard M. Nixon estimated that 150,000 barrels of oil could be saved a day, the New York Times reported. Signing the bill into law, he said it would "mean only a minimum of inconvenience.” Seventy-nine percent of Americans favored the change at the time, according to polling by NORC at the University of Chicago. Then it went into effect. Daylight saving time: Explaining the century-old debate On Day One, the New York Times reported, hundreds of tourists missed flights from Puerto Rico, which remained on standard time, to the continental United States. Throughout the week, newspapers carried reports of bleary-eyed commuters and nervous parents. "Daylight time is like darkness time,” declared a headline in The Washington Post. The New York Times called it "the Second Dark Age.” "Pitch black at 7:30 in the morning,” a Long Island man named Bob Fitzpatrick told the Times. "People were saying if this had happened two years ago, McGovern would be President today.” He spotted dawn only briefly on his way to work as a Lord & Taylor executive and was "depressed as hell,” he added. David Prerau studied the issue as a researcher for the U.S. Department of Transportation and went on to write a book about it, "Seize the Daylight: The Curious and Contentious Story of Daylight Saving Time.” He said in an interview that the reality of the change seemed to take people by surprise. "Most people think, ‘Oh, I’m not going to have to change my clock,’ ” he said. "And they don’t think, ‘Oh, I’m going to have four months of dark mornings.’ I think that’s what happened in ’74. People didn’t think about that.” Sleep experts say Senate has it wrong: Standard time, not daylight saving, should be permanent Frustration over the shift took on a new sense of urgency when reports emerged of children being hit and killed by cars during predawn treks to school. After eight deaths in Florida, Gov. Reubin Askew (D) called a special legislative session Jan. 27, urging state lawmakers to change back the clocks. Though Florida would be on a different schedule than the rest of the Eastern Seaboard, the governor told United Press International that any disruption "would be small indeed when compared to the life of even a single child whose death could be attributed to a too-early start of his or her school day.” The move failed, caught up in partisan politics. The clocks stayed an hour ahead in Florida and in other states. Some schools pushed back their start times; some cities bought reflective signs for crosswalks, according to news reports. The Post ran a story on "inventive Washington mothers improvising outerwear” from fluorescent fabrics, complete with photographs of kids wearing their handiwork at bus stops. The article noted that some companies planned to offer jackets with reflective detailing in their back-to-school lines. As the dark mornings continued, the complaints kept coming. By February, Congress was having regrets. "The time to admit a mistake is when you’ve made one,” Rep. William Ketchum (R-Calif.), a co-author of the bill, was quoted as saying in the Times. That month, a National Safety Council survey found no appreciable change in the number of early-morning fatalities between January 1973 and January 1974. And a Reuters report said the United States had used about 2 percent less energy because of the change. How permanent daylight saving time would change sunrise and sunset times Still, the country was ready to go back to the old times. Public support for the extended daylight saving time had plummeted to 42 percent, according to NORC. In August, the same month Nixon resigned over Watergate, the Senate voted to repeal the law. The House passed a similar measure soon after. On Oct. 5, President Gerald Ford signed it, and three weeks later, Americans rolled back their clocks. The semiannual routine returned and has continued ever since. People always grouse about losing an hour of sleep in the spring. Prerau wasn’t surprised that doing away with it came up again. As for whether it’ll last, he isn’t sure. "It’s a different time,” he said. "On the other hand, daylight and darkness are still the same as they were in ’74, and kids having to go to school in the morning is still the same, and people having to go to work in the morning is still the same.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/03/18/daylight-saving-seventies-history/
March 21, 20223 yr On 3/17/2022 at 3:40 PM, paco said: What do you think my head looks like? I've been told I'm a solid 4. Me too! Twinsies BTW, this thread delivered. Got to thank kz for the reference. This was really something. Kind of crazy that your reply to me led to the C word. This all felt like a web I had to untangle and I am still not sure how it escalated so quickly.
March 21, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Me too! Twinsies BTW, this thread delivered. Got to thank kz for the reference. This was really something. Kind of crazy that your reply to me led to the C word. This all felt like a web I had to untangle and I am still not sure how it escalated so quickly. Typical. I bet you like midget porn.
March 21, 20223 yr Just now, paco said: Typical. I bet you like midget porn. Legalize it! Wait, what thread am I in again?
November 4, 20223 yr The bill to end DST is going to die because nobody in the House picked it up. Enjoy changing your clocks this weekend, and again next year! Also you are more likely to hit a deer with your car next week.
November 4, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, toolg said: The bill to end DST is going to die because nobody in the House picked it up. Enjoy changing your clocks this weekend, and again next year! I do, because it makes sense. 34 minutes ago, toolg said: Also you are more likely to hit a deer with your car next week. 13 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: How would that work? People would be driving around in pitch darkness more frequently, not less. One of the main arguments against permanent DST is that children would be walking to school or bus stops well before the sun rises. If we make anything permanent, it should be Standard Time, as the term implies.
November 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: How would that work? People would be driving around in pitch darkness more frequently, not less. One of the main arguments against permanent DST is that children would be walking to school or bus stops well before the sun rises. If we make anything permanent, it should be Standard Time, as the term implies. Duh. We don't tell the deer, and they will be on the old time cycle.
November 6, 20223 yr Should be just standard time, and the Senate never voted, he it snuck through by the weasel Rubio without debate or a real vote
November 6, 20223 yr On 11/4/2022 at 3:08 PM, toolg said: The bill to end DST is going to die because nobody in the House picked it up. Enjoy changing your clocks this weekend, and again next year! How does daylight savings switch actually annoy people? It’s one hour on Sunday. And how many clocks do people have that don’t automatically switch? It’s annoying with watches sure but I have one clock in the living room and one above the stove that don’t automatically switch.
November 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: How does daylight savings switch actually annoy people? It’s one hour on Sunday. And how many clocks do people have that don’t automatically switch? It’s annoying with watches sure but I have one clock in the living room and one above the stove that don’t automatically switch. My stove, microwave and a mechanical coo coo clock are the only clocks I need to change, it takes me like 5 minutes for all three.
November 6, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: How does daylight savings switch actually annoy people? It’s one hour on Sunday. And how many clocks do people have that don’t automatically switch? It’s annoying with watches sure but I have one clock in the living room and one above the stove that don’t automatically switch. Americans are soft, whiny, entitled, and incapable of taking care of their bodies and doing things like ensuring that they're well-rested, so playing the victim and b***ching and moaning about these things until the everybody else caters to them is par for the course.
November 6, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Americans are soft, whiny, entitled, and incapable of taking care of their bodies and doing things like ensuring that they're well-rested, so playing the victim and b***ching and moaning about these things until the everybody else caters to them is par for the course. I don’t think there has every been a more accurate statement in cvon besides dallass sucks. You win today.
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