pff is short for.....pffftt

Ah for years when PFF calls Brandon Graham the best pass rusher in football everyone loved them. Now they slight Carson and suddenly PFF is trash. 😂 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Ah for years when PFF calls Brandon Graham the best pass rusher in football everyone loved them. Now they slight Carson and suddenly PFF is trash. 😂 

Well to be fair they always like pff when it makes an ok player look better then they are for the eagles.. 

It's also always trash when it says a player people like look bad lol. 

Ok here are some facts. These two will always be competing against each other in the press and fans. 
Wentz was drafted with a sky high ceiling that he has not been able to reach. Dak was drafted as a QB2 at best but has over preformed and is now considered by just about ever media source to be a franchise QB. 
I just think it’s so funny how the media talks about Dak and the Jones’s. 
I am not worried about his contract. 
As far as who is better we will know after they are retired. Neither one is elite at this point after 4 years but there are in the top 15. As far as ceilings go between the two for Wentz has find a way to last and stay healthy if he wants to try and reach his ceiling. Dak has shown that we don’t know how high his ceiling is because he has already broke through the one the scouts placed on him at the draft. 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well to be fair they always like pff when it makes an ok player look better then they are for the eagles.. 

It's also always trash when it says a player people like look bad lol. 

PFF said Vinny Curry was one of the highest ranked pass rusher in football last season. I mean I can’t even take them seriously. 

53 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

PFF said Vinny Curry was one of the highest ranked pass rusher in football last season. I mean I can’t even take them seriously. 

I believe the super bowl year curry had the most pressures on the team or close to it. People this trashed curry but, love Graham for doing it.... It's nuts

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I believe the super bowl year curry had the most pressures on the team or close to it. People this trashed curry but, love Graham for doing it.... It's nuts

Brandon Graham is a nice guy and considering where his career was he certainly turned it around, but he might be the most overrated player I have seen over the past 5 years thanks to PFF. 

11 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Brandon Graham is a nice guy and considering where his career was he certainly turned it around, but he might be the most overrated player I have seen over the past 5 years thanks to PFF. 

I agree, Graham has become a solid dependable player and has had some really nice moments. I've never looked at him as more then just a great role player 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I agree, Graham has become a solid dependable player and has had some really nice moments. I've never looked at him as more then just a great role player 

He’s been really good against the run over the years. I think he’s a much better player against the run than he’s been against the pass. 

2 hours ago, Gch said:

Wentz was drafted with a sky high ceiling that he has not been able to reach

 

Dak does not miss games, Wentz does, a lot. A huge factor when comparing their relative worth to a team.

46 minutes ago, Runtherock said:

Dak does not miss games, Wentz does, a lot. A huge factor when comparing their relative worth to a team.

Dak can't do better than .500 with the best weapons in the league surrounding him.

Wentz - 1

Dak - 0

Only stat that matters.

I mean Dalton is a cheaper version of Dak. Dak is average. He can succeed with alot of weapons around him. Give him the receivers Wentz had last year and he wins 3-4 games.

44 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I mean Dalton is a cheaper version of Dak. Dak is average. He can succeed with alot of weapons around him. Give him the receivers Wentz had last year and he wins 3-4 games.

Dalton is average but he struggled with a hugely talented Bengals roster. Dak is better than Dalton. But Dalton is significantly cheaper. 

Anyway, enablers and blind followers will be enablers and blind followers.....we have it in our nation so surely it'll raise itched in Sports.....If there is a season, how long before we start hearing,"well this person and that person were hurt, so and so wasn't 100%,...blah....blah....again I ask would you have preferred an already NFL QB as a backup or a rookie who cannot pocket pass, doesn't have a great arm, doesn't scan the field for secondary, or tertiary receivers???Because as the pattern shows our Golden Boy will ,at some point, miss at least part of the season....So since this is Wentz/Dak thread, I am starting to think I would take never injured Dak with the same Eagles team.The fact that he doesn't get hurt opens up different draft possibilities....Jalen Hurts in the second???

15 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Is this saying that Mahomes is the best in the NFL and Wilson is the best in the NFC? Not sure about that

At this point in time I’d say Mahomes is the best. In the NFC, you can argue between Rodgers, Wilson and Brees, though I think Brees is about to fall off big time. Can’t beat Father Time forever. 

15 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Is this saying that Mahomes is the best in the NFL and Wilson is the best in the NFC? Not sure about that

I would says that’s what it’s suggesting but even if that isn’t true you have the rest.

5 hours ago, Vileborg said:

Wentz - 1

Dak - 0

Only stat that matters.

I mean, Foles won the ring but carry on 😄

27 minutes ago, AngryBird said:

I mean, Foles won the ring but carry on 😄

Wentz got the team to 11-2 and set them up for the bye. Yes, Foles pulled off the finish and God love him for it but it was built on a foundation that Wentz built. The formula worked but i think if Wentz goes down like week 2 then it doesn't happen.

22 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said:

Nope. If Prescott didn't use the injury excuse why should we use it for him? 

He wasn't listed on the injury report and he had this to say about it:

Prescott echoed the statements of Jones, saying he'll be "good to go" when Dallas takes the field Sunday in Philadelphia. In the past, he's dealt with nagging pain in college at Mississippi State, but he hasn't experienced much of this in the NFL.

"It's just annoying," Prescott said, via ESPN. "I mean, I'm in a contract year so, of course, I'm gonna blame the worst loss of my career on a fake injury. I'm a guy that doesn't like to be in the action. I like to sit back, like to take reps off, but I'm mental."

FYP

3 minutes ago, Vileborg said:

Wentz got the team to 11-2 and set them up for the bye. Yes, Foles pulled off the finish and God love him for it but it was built on a foundation that Wentz built. The formula worked but i think if Wentz goes down like week 2 then it doesn't happen.

I'm not here to debate what-if's, I'm just saying Wentz winning a ring without taking a single snap in the playoffs isn't an area to vault him over Dak, considering there's a lot of other areas to do it. Otherwise every quarterback should win a ring for getting their team to the playoffs.

14 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Flacco was on his rookie contract when he won the super bowl. Then they debated on using the franchise tag on him after he won the super bowl but never did they signed him to the highest contract for a QB at the time for 6 yrs 120 million. 

No he wasn't. Flacco was on the franchise tag during his SB winning season. The Ravens were willing to ride out the franchise tag in hopes of winning a SB and they did. If they didn't it is very likely they would have moved on from Flacco.

10 hours ago, Runtherock said:

Dak does not miss games, Wentz does, a lot. A huge factor when comparing their relative worth to a team.

You’re forgetting the TWWHDBHWHSIMIU stat. Oh you don’t know what that is? It’s the "Things Wentz Would Have Done But He Was Hurt So I’m Making It Up” stat. In this world Wentz wins the MVP, wins the Super Bowl, and beats Seattle last season in the playoffs last season. Now you see why he’s clearly better than Dak.