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2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

You’re forgetting the TWWHDBHWHSIMIU stat. Oh you don’t know what that is? It the "Things Wentz Would Have Done But He Was Hurt So I’m Making It Up” stat. In this world Wentz wins the MVP, wins the Super Bowl, and beats Seattle last season in the playoffs last season. Now you see why he’s clearly better than Dak. 

 

1 hour ago, AngryBird said:

I mean, Foles won the ring but carry on 😄

Which Wentz helped get. We don't get to SB without the first round bye and homefield.

1 hour ago, Vileborg said:

Wentz got the team to 11-2 and set them up for the bye. Yes, Foles pulled off the finish and God love him for it but it was built on a foundation that Wentz built. The formula worked but i think if Wentz goes down like week 2 then it doesn't happen.

Thank you!

1 hour ago, Devaster said:

No he wasn't. Flacco was on the franchise tag during his SB winning season. The Ravens were willing to ride out the franchise tag in hopes of winning a SB and they did. If they didn't it is very likely they would have moved on from Flacco.

Joe flacco was selected in the 1st round of 2008 they won the super bowl for the 2012 season that would of only put him at year 4 of his rookie contract that all rookie first rounder get. The thought about a franchise tag for the following season but instead gave him a 6 year deal

6 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Dalton is average but he struggled with a hugely talented Bengals roster. Dak is better than Dalton. But Dalton is significantly cheaper. 

Hugely talented Bengals roster of AJ Green, Tyler Boyd who did basically dick for his first two seasons and Tyler Eifert the most overrated glass TE in the NFL. Behind an offensive line that was basically Whitworth and Zeitler most of his time there. The closest they got to a tailback worth a damn his first 5 years was Geovanni Bernard.

Dalton got them to the play offs 4 times his first 5 years, he isn't the best QB in the world but he's plenty competent enough to win games with that Dallarse roster.

43 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Big Ben (38) missed 14 games in 2019 the rest of the games missed were sporadic. Could have been an week or two injury or it could have been he missed a game to prepare for the playoffs.

Newton (31) Missed 14 games with an injury other games were again sporadic. 
 

Tannehill (31) Missed time due to injuries and inconsistent play so he was benched in Miami. 
 

Watson (24) Missed time in 2017 and hasn’t missed a game since.

Rodgers (36) Was injured in 2017, but played every game in 16,18, and 19.

Stafford (32) missed 8 games in 2019, and started every game in the other seasons you mentioned. 
Dalton (32)  missed a lot of games like Tannihill for some injuries and sporadic play.

Wentz (27) is the only guy on this list to finish 3 seasons injured and he’s the second youngest.... 
 

This was easy to poke holes in, but I’ll add my point wasn’t that Carson is injury prone. My point was there’s far too many people out there who seem to think injured Carson would have accomplished all these things if he were healthy. The truth is we don’t know cause he wasn’t healthy. 

14 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wentz (27) is the only guy on this list to finish 3 seasons injured and he’s the second youngest.... 

He played in all 16 games in 2 of his 4 seasons.  The  Clowney cheap shot did not stop him from playing all 16 games, and ACL tears happen.  This narrative that he is injury prone is BS.

55 minutes ago, downundermike said:

He played in all 16 games in 2 of his 4 seasons.  The  Clowney cheap shot did not stop him from playing all 16 games, and ACL tears happen.  This narrative that he is injury prone is BS.

Injuries happen to a lot of players, but that doesn’t mean you need to make up accomplishments that didn’t happen. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

In juries happen to a lot of players, but that doesn’t mean you need to make up accomplishments that didn’t happen. 

What accomplishments were made up though? I don't see any. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

In juries happen to a lot of players, but that doesn’t mean you need to make up accomplishments that didn’t happen. 

 

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What accomplishments were made up though? I don't see any. 

Me either

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Joe flacco was selected in the 1st round of 2008 they won the super bowl for the 2012 season that would of only put him at year 4 of his rookie contract that all rookie first rounder get. The thought about a franchise tag for the following season but instead gave him a 6 year deal

He was in his 5th season, when there was no 5th year option for rookie 1st round picks. They gave him the franchise tag that season they won the SB.

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Dak is obviously the best QB in the NFL....or whatever is needed to get the Cowboys to dump more salary cap money on him

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Joe flacco was selected in the 1st round of 2008 they won the super bowl for the 2012 season that would of only put him at year 4 of his rookie contract that all rookie first rounder get. The thought about a franchise tag for the following season but instead gave him a 6 year deal

Your math is wrong - I think your're not counting 2008 - you're just subtracting 2008 from 2012. 2011 was Flacco's 4th year (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What accomplishments were made up though? I don't see any. 

Someone here just implied Wentz won the Super Bowl. I have seen multiple people around here say the Eagles would have beaten Seattle if Carson stayed healthy despite the fact he’s never heated Seattle including last season. Some are calling Wentz an MVP. He’s never won that award. They attribute all this to Wentz’s greatness and it’s all completely made up. 

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Me either

See my response above. 

5 minutes ago, matchew88 said:

Dak is obviously the best QB in the NFL....or whatever is needed to get the Cowboys to dump more salary cap money on him

Honestly Dak has vastly overrated himself and his worth, but that’s not to see he’s bad either. No matter how you slice it he was a good pick considering where they drafted him. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Someone here just implied Wentz won the Super Bowl. I have seen multiple people around here say the Eagles would have beaten Seattle if Carson stayed healthy despite the fact he’s never heated Seattle including last season. Some are calling Wentz an MVP. He’s never won that award. They attribute all this to Wentz’s greatness and it’s all completely made up. 

Why did the Eagles have the #1 seed through the playoffs when they won the Super Bowl ??

It is a fact that Carson Wentz was the leader for MVP when he got injured that year, and he threw 33 TD's, the league leader threw 34.

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Why did the Eagles have the #1 seed through the playoffs when they won the Super Bowl ??

It is a fact that Carson Wentz was the leader for MVP when he got injured that year, and he threw 33 TD's, the league leader threw 34.

Did he win the MVP? Did he play in a playoff game? Did he take one snap in the Super Bowl? Believe or not the season didn’t end when Wentz went down. They played on and won vital games (games he’s yet to win in his career) without him. But thank you though. You have clearly made my point. 

29 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What accomplishments were made up though? I don't see any. 

See above.

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Did he win the MVP? Did he play in a playoff game? Did he take one snap in the Super Bowl? Believe or not the season didn’t end when Wentz went down. They played on and won vital games (games he’s yet to win in his career) without him. But thank you though. You have clearly made my point. 

Nick Foles won 2 regular season games, the Eagles had to win 13 to be the #1 seed.  Who won the other 11 ??

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Nick Foles won 2 regular season games, the Eagles had to win 13 to be the #1 seed.  Who won the other 11 ??

So does winning games in the regular season mean he won a Super Bowl? Did he win the MVP? Has he won a playoff game? 

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

So does winning games in the regular season mean he won a Super Bowl? Did he win the MVP? Has he won a playoff game? 

He was part of what it took that season to win a Super Bowl.  No, but he was the leader when he got hurt.  No.

I am still not sure what your overall point is except to bash Carson and call him injury prone, which is false.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

He was part of what it took that season to win a Super Bowl.  No, but he was the leader when he got hurt.  No.

I am still not sure what your overall point is except to bash Carson and call him injury prone, which is false.

No my point is clear. You dopes make ish up that didn’t actually happen. 😂

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

No my point is clear. You dopes make ish up that didn’t actually happen. 😂

What is your point ??  No one has made up anything, we have stated facts.  Your point appears to be that you hate Carson Wentz.

 

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What is your point ??  No one has made up anything, we have stated facts.  Your point appears to be that you hate Carson Wentz.

 

It is not a fact Carson won won the Super Bowl. It’s not a fact Carson would have beat the Seahawks last season in the playoffs. It’s not a fact Carson won the MVP. What are you dense? For the record I don’t have to make up stuff like the rest of you to like Carson. 

6 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

It is not a fact Carson won won the Super Bowl. 

No one said he did.  Would the Eagles have played any home playoff games and won the Super Bowl without Carson winning 11 of 13 games ??

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

No one said he did.  Would the Eagles have played any home playoff games and won the Super Bowl without Carson winning 11 of 13 games ??

You have been arguing with me this whole time over my point. My point was people make stuff up. And winning 11 regular season games does not mean you win the Super Bowl. Heck the Vagiants won the Super Bowl after winning 10 games and they beat an Undefeated team to do it! The Eagles won 10 games one year and got put out of the playoffs in the first round by the Cowboys. You’re trying to give trophies for participation awards.  

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