March 28, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Thing3 said: And replace him with? Who's your dream GM? I'd look at organizations that consistently draft well. Fans don't know scouts and personnel people around the league. That's their job to network, analyze and be aware of the talent and potential. It's like hiring coaches, people didn't know who Andy Reid was. He was prepared and had a plan and won a championship working with a HOF QB and got hired here.
March 28, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said: All in all, though, I am just not that concerned about their cap situation or Roseman’s ability to deal with it. I'm not concerned about it in that he'll manage it because he always does. But I think due to how he kicks the can he's left himself with very little wriggle from now and so it's going to limit what he can do.
March 28, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I'm not concerned about it in that he'll manage it because he always does. But I think due to how he kicks the can he's left himself with very little wriggle from now and so it's going to limit what he can do. Literally every team stays under the cap, they have to. How they do it is the issue.
March 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, NOTW said: Literally every team stays under the cap, they have to. How they do it is the issue. A team that doesn't have a franchise QB under contract and who hasn't had more than average talent for a few years should not be in this situation
March 28, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, pgcd3 said: A team that doesn't have a franchise QB under contract and who hasn't had more than average talent for a few years should not be in this situation I don't see why not. Given that we were coming off a Super Bowl win, it made sense to try to carry that success over. Part of our current issue is related to a franchise QB contract. While Wentz' portion may be off the books now, his contract was why we had to restructure several others to date. The cowboys haven't won anything since the 1900s and they can't even keep their best players. The other thing is that even if we had a super-favorable cap situation, if you don't use it, it just sits there. So, by all accounts, you take advantage of it, and then you no longer have a "super-favorable" cap situation. To me, today's NFL is all about winning now (or as quickly as possible). Every year you need to put together the best team possible and see how the season plays out.
April 4, 20223 yr 55 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: More Howie. 100% expected. Lurie said GM job is more than just drafting & draft picks are an organization collaboration (subtly acknowledging the drafting hasn't been good).
April 4, 20223 yr Author 12 hours ago, NOTW said: Lurie said GM job is more than just drafting & draft picks are an organization collaboration (subtly acknowledging the drafting hasn't been good). IMO that implies more that Lurie is trying to protect Howie from taking the majority of the blame for the poor drafting. He is right ... that is a collaborative effort to evaluate all of the players and set the board appropriately ... it is up to the GM to then stick to the board (for the most part) and not go rogue taking a player he ranks higher on his own fantasy football geek personal board for his own reasons (Reagor faster than Jefferson) rather than the player ranked higher on the board the scouting department sets.
April 4, 20223 yr On 3/27/2022 at 3:59 PM, Thing3 said: And replace him with? Who's your dream GM? Find someone from a team that has drafted well that has experience Chiefs, Chargers, Bills, etc. Howie doesn't have the history to keep getting extensions. His job security is insane
April 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: Find someone from a team that has drafted well that has experience Chiefs, Chargers, Bills, etc. Howie doesn't have the history to keep getting extensions. His job security is insane The SB bought him a long leash. The biggest complaint is the draft. The SB team was made up of a lot of players that Howie didn't draft; many were either leftover from Reid drafting them or free agent and trade acquisitions. He's still holding got a few guys Reid drafted a decade ago like Graham, Cox and Kelce. There was also the Chip Kelly era where he changed over the roster so much. So I can understand Lurie looking at the situation and wanting to continue currently. Howie has survived the firings of coaches, changes to the starting QB and face of the franchise and with this extension he has to prove he can build a winning roster and what happens at the QB position will be huge. He no longer has excuses, they can talk about collaboration all they want but Howie has to prove he can build a championship level roster.
April 4, 20223 yr Who's excited for the draft?! https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/nfl-draft-analysis-ranking-teams-five-year-history/ Quote Rank 30. Eagles Pro Bowlers: 1 Best Pick: Carson Wentz (2016, 1st) Worst Pick: Sidney Jones (2017, 2nd) If you’re trying to figure out why the Eagles have fallen apart since winning the Super Bowl, look at their drafts. They have done a poor job landing impact players. Wentz had some good years before fizzling out in Philadelphia, so I’ll still give him the nod as their best pick, but that tells you a lot. https://www.nfl.com/news/general-manager-power-rankings-nfl-draft-edition Quote General Manager Power Rankings: NFL draft edition! 21) Howie Roseman, Eagles Best pick: Dallas Goedert | Round 2 (No. 49), 2018 Worst pick: J.J. Arcega-Whiteside | Round 2 (No. 57), 2019 Roseman's first pick back in charge after the Chip Kelly era was Carson Wentz. Signing Wentz to a massive second contract has proven far more costly (the Eagles have a $33.8 million dead-money hit in 2021, per Over The Cap) than moving up to select him second overall, as Wentz contributed significantly to a Super Bowl title and two other playoff teams. The picks Philadelphia traded away for Wentz, however, left the team with a smaller margin for error that Roseman didn't sufficiently compensate for with quality selections. The next-best picks since 2016 include Dallas Goedert, Miles Sanders, Avonte Maddox and Derek Barnett. Roseman deserves credit for an Eagles roster that was loaded from 2017 to '19, but it wasn't because of recent drafts. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/nfl-drafting-efficiency-2010-2019 Draft return and efficiency ratings: Eagles 31st (better only than the Jets) over the last 5 years.
April 5, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Mike030270 said: Find someone from a team that has drafted well that has experience Chiefs, Chargers, Bills, etc. Howie doesn't have the history to keep getting extensions. His job security is insane Tell me who! Who is deserving of replacing of replacing Howie? What GM has drafted as well and traded as well?
April 5, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Thing3 said: Tell me who! Who is deserving of replacing of replacing Howie? What GM has drafted as well and traded as well? On 3/27/2022 at 8:44 PM, NOTW said: I'd look at organizations that consistently draft well. Fans don't know scouts and personnel people around the league. That's their job to network, analyze and be aware of the talent and potential. It's like hiring coaches, people didn't know who Andy Reid was. He was prepared and had a plan and won a championship working with a HOF QB and got hired here. 8 hours ago, NOTW said: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/nfl-drafting-efficiency-2010-2019 Draft return and efficiency ratings: Eagles 31st (better only than the Jets) over the last 5 years. @Thing3
April 5, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, NOTW said: @Thing3 I'm not going to deny Howie has not been good at drafting. But we still have been as or more successful on the field then most of those teams that have had better drafts. If/when Lurie replaces Howie, I will welcome the change. I just think it's much easier said then done. If we were the laughing stock of the NFL it would be a different story.
April 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Thing3 said: I'm not going to deny Howie has not been good at drafting. But we still have been as or more successful on the field then most of those teams that have had better drafts. If/when Lurie replaces Howie, I will welcome the change. I just think it's much easier said then done. If we were the laughing stock of the NFL it would be a different story. Yes, Lurie isn't going to get rid of Howie unless things get really bad. Howie's regime has had phases. The first one he had Chip and was getting players for his style including drafting Oregon players like Josh Huff. The 2013 draft he took two pretty obvious choices in Lane Johnson and Ertz (Chip wanted Ertz). After Chip is when he traded up for Wentz and then had mediocre drafts. They won the Super Bowl mostly with guys Howie didn't draft (Reid drafted, trades or free agents). He had a good draft in 2018 and I think there was less pressure after winning the SB, he felt there weren't big needs. He traded out of the 1st round (that pick was used on Lamar Jackson an eventual MVP). Goedert was a good pick but took 5 years to become a starter. Since then it's been pretty bad drafting, last year was decent we'll see how the backups develop. There aren't any more excuses. Howie will either build a winning roster or he won't. And a lot will ride on the QB position.
April 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, NOTW said: Yes, Lurie isn't going to get rid of Howie unless things get really bad. Howie's regime has had phases. The first one he had Chip and was getting players for his style including drafting Oregon players like Josh Huff. The 2013 draft he took two pretty obvious choices in Lane Johnson and Ertz (Chip wanted Ertz). After Chip is when he traded up for Wentz and then had mediocre drafts. They won the Super Bowl mostly with guys Howie didn't draft (Reid drafted, trades or free agents). He had a good draft in 2018 and I think there was less pressure after winning the SB, he felt there weren't big needs. He traded out of the 1st round (that pick was used on Lamar Jackson an eventual MVP). Goedert was a good pick but took 5 years to become a starter. Since then it's been pretty bad drafting, last year was decent we'll see how the backups develop. There aren't any more excuses. Howie will either build a winning roster or he won't. And a lot will ride on the QB position. I totally agree with this assessment and I believe if both Howie and Siri don't make us "the gold standard" within 3 years that it will be time to clean house.
April 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Thing3 said: I totally agree with this assessment and I believe if both Howie and Siri don't make us "the gold standard" within 3 years that it will be time to clean house. "The new normal"
April 5, 20223 yr 20 hours ago, Thing3 said: Tell me who! Who is deserving of replacing of replacing Howie? What GM has drafted as well and traded as well? Brett Veach Tom Telesco Brandon Beane Or any of their assistants
April 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: Brett Veach Tom Telesco Brandon Beane Or any of their assistants Brett Veach is already a GM
April 6, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, NOTW said: "The new normal" It probably will be for that guy in Jacksonville.
April 6, 20223 yr Author 4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Brett Veach is already a GM lol so is Beane (Bills) and Telesco (Chargers)
April 6, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, time2rock said: lol so is Beane (Bills) and Telesco (Chargers) I only recognized Veach cause grew up a half hour away from me lol. None of those guys are leaving their jobs for here.
April 6, 20223 yr Author 4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I only recognized Veach cause grew up a half hour away from me lol. None of those guys are leaving their jobs for here. Agreed.
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