time2rock Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Apologies to those of you who had your hopes up that maybe Howie would be gone after his contract ran out after this year: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/17/report-howie-roseman-lands-three-year-extension-with-eagles/ 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameaglesfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I'm hoping that after last years draft, he's learned not to outsmart himself. I'm hoping the Reagor pick has finally changed his draft philosophy and changed his world. We'll know if this draft lines up with this past one, or all of the miserable ones before that...... We could have had Jefferson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidrone Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Great signing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesteakitis Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 so all he has been worried about is his own contract nice!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I've been hard on Howie for awhile. However, if I am honest and sit back away from the EMB chaos, he has set everything up for another run of success. The picks he reloaded with, while biting the bullet on Wentz's contract, may turn out to be one of his best moves ever. Still won't stop me from criticizing the current mess at QB that we are in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTANK Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 🙁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Worst news....the owner is the problem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I've been hard on Howie for awhile. However, if I am honest and sit back away from the EMB chaos, he has set everything up for another run of success. The picks he reloaded with, while biting the bullet on Wentz's contract, may turn out to be one of his best moves ever. Still won't stop me from criticizing the current mess at QB that we are in. Will you change your tune if he uses all of those picks (and possibly our 2023 1st, as suggested by some) to trade for Watson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, time2rock said: Will you change your tune if he uses all of those picks (and possibly our 2023 1st, as suggested by some) to trade for Watson? No, because how he utilizes that "pot of gold" offers several different pathways to success. Recognizing a QB deficiency are reacting to it is a big first step. No team wins with bad QB play. It wouldn't with Wentz. It won't with Hurts. Watson, the QB, is a major upgrade at a position of need. BTW, I don't think Watson is coming. It appears that he doesn't want to be here. ADD: I understand the point you are making. If Howie used all of those immediate picks up for any player, it would be frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 @UK_EaglesFan89 is going to need to take a sabbatical after this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsdarkstar Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 So they give Howie a new Contract, meanwhile Free Agency is passing him by. Or is Greg Lewis the big FA signing we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Yep it’s official: Howie has a job till he doesn’t want it anymore. 🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I hate Lurie. Clueless **** 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I was really hoping we would wait to see what he did with the off season... draft and FA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMoment Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I literally stared at this news on ESPN for 2 minutes shocked. This guy has to have pictures of Lurie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I've been hard on Howie for awhile. However, if I am honest and sit back away from the EMB chaos, he has set everything up for another run of success. The picks he reloaded with, while biting the bullet on Wentz's contract, may turn out to be one of his best moves ever. Still won't stop me from criticizing the current mess at QB that we are in. He's had to fix his own mistakes and gets praised for it. They are among the most in dead cap money. His drafting has mostly been terrible. He's continued to extend old or injury prone veterans because he can't adequately draft replacements. He gave Wentz that big contract before he proved he could stay healthy, then gets praised for being able to trade him. He's changed his philosophy every year with themes ranging from extend all the veterans, to go younger and draft all the speed over BPA talent or trying too hard to draft clones of players like Jeffrey, Sproles or Jackson. He is not a talent evaluator and doesn't know what he's doing in the draft. The bar is so low for him, that last year's draft is seen as "great" because he took the no-brainer consensus pick for once then got a few backups. We'll see how many of them get a second contract. And what he does with this year's draft capital. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidrone Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I've been hard on Howie for awhile. However, if I am honest and sit back away from the EMB chaos, he has set everything up for another run of success. The picks he reloaded with, while biting the bullet on Wentz's contract, may turn out to be one of his best moves ever. Still won't stop me from criticizing the current mess at QB that we are in. It is absolutely fine to be tough on Howie. He has had a mediocre record when it comes to drafting players. Whether that is all him, the coaches or the scouts is irrelevant as he is the boss of the whole thing. However, when you step out of the echo chamber of the Philadelphia Eagles, you can see that he is actually a pretty good GM. Not the best, but pretty good. He usually gets great value for his trades, he knows the right time to extend young players and focuses on the most important part of a football team, the offense, and defensive lines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz! Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I've been hard on Howie for awhile. However, if I am honest and sit back away from the EMB chaos, he has set everything up for another run of success. The picks he reloaded with, while biting the bullet on Wentz's contract, may turn out to be one of his best moves ever. Still won't stop me from criticizing the current mess at QB that we are in. This is kind of where I'm at. Howie's got his warts, but we could also do much, much worse at GM. I think we all agree that he made some bad signings right after the SB, but he's also done a good job of rebounding from that and keeping us competitive while we're turning over the roster and infusing it with younger talent. At this point, the Wentz trade has to go down as a fleecing being able to snag a first for him, and he did an awesome job maneuvering in the draft last year to get Smith and pick up an extra first this year. Now obviously, he's got to hit on those extra picks, but by the time the contract is up, we'll know definitively if he's got the team headed in the right direction or the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, pallidrone said: It is absolutely fine to be tough on Howie. He has had a mediocre record when it comes to drafting players. Whether that is all him, the coaches or the scouts is irrelevant as he is the boss of the whole thing. However, when you step out of the echo chamber of the Philadelphia Eagles, you can see that he is actually a pretty good GM. Not the best, but pretty good. He usually gets great value for his trades, he knows the right time to extend young players and focuses on the most important part of a football team, the offense, and defensive lines. Oline has had health issues for awhile now. Dline was dominate but then dropped off a cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidrone Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: Oline has had health issues for awhile now. Dline was dominate but then dropped off a cliff This is football. Every team will go through spurts of injuries. Some years are worse than others. The dline was dominate and they did fall off a cliff. That seemed to happen when Brandon Graham got hurt. What was the only move the Eagles did so far this offseason? Bring in a guy for the Dline. One, if not two of their first-round picks will be on the dline. He does not ignore that position like a lot of other teams. Whether they are the right players or not can be debated, but not his attention to those positions. While it may be coincidental but it seemed like the injury bug did not plague the Eagles as much last year as it had in previous years when Doug was the HC. Could be that Doug just did not condition the players right, or it could be that they had a good year. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochis_Calhoun Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, pallidrone said: It is absolutely fine to be tough on Howie. He has had a mediocre record when it comes to drafting players. Whether that is all him, the coaches or the scouts is irrelevant as he is the boss of the whole thing. However, when you step out of the echo chamber of the Philadelphia Eagles, you can see that he is actually a pretty good GM. Not the best, but pretty good. He usually gets great value for his trades, he knows the right time to extend young players and focuses on the most important part of a football team, the offense, and defensive lines. We don't really extend many young players outside the offensive line where Stoutland can make a huge difference, Barnett and Dillard look like they won't get extensions when was the last time we gave a long term extension to a defensive back we drafted? The headline young player extension he had to make (Wentz) he screwed up, and his constant salami slicing of older players salaries into bonus means that Lane, Fletch and Graham are immovable (and predate Howie's drafting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz! Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: We don't really extend many young players outside the offensive line where Stoutland can make a huge difference, Barnett and Dillard look like they won't get extensions when was the last time we gave a long term extension to a defensive back we drafted? The headline young player extension he had to make (Wentz) he screwed up, and his constant salami slicing of older players salaries into bonus means that Lane, Fletch and Graham are immovable (and predate Howie's drafting). Avonte Maddox a few months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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