On 5/11/2020 at 11:09 AM, Infam said:

I'd still rather trade for Fournette, but this is probably the best consolation price available.

If they wanted a Fournette type of guy at that amount of money they could have just resigned Howard and not had to give up more picks. 

7 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

The RBBC "crap" has won the vast majority of super bowls over the last 20 years......they NEED 3-4 multi dimensional backs.......teams with a work horse 3 down back don't win anything.

Keeping sanders at a 12-15 touch game would be ideal for his durability.  Scott, Hyde and a 4th backs could split the rest.  If a teams goes deep into the playoffs and their top back is getting 20-25 touches a game, he's going to either get hurt or wear out before his contract.  RBBC keeps guys fresh, can withstand an injury and can create mismatch problems.  As long as you have 4 versatile backs.

While I agree with your overall point, completely in fact. Sanders need to be getting more than 12 touches a game. He should get around 15 carries or so and catch 2 or 3 passes as well. Keeping him in that 16-20 range is the sweet spot for me.

3 hours ago, T-1000 said:

While I agree with your overall point, completely in fact. Sanders need to be getting more than 12 touches a game. He should get around 15 carries or so and catch 2 or 3 passes as well. Keeping him in that 16-20 range is the sweet spot for me.

It is what we do, though. We have a RBBC, yet we do use "the hot hand". If Sanders gets going, nobody would suggest he rides the bench here for the RBBCs sake.

1 hour ago, Infam said:

It is what we do, though. We have a RBBC, yet we do use "the hot hand". If Sanders gets going, nobody would suggest he rides the bench here for the RBBCs sake.

I don't necessarily buy this RBBC thing though. Yes that's what Doug and Duce have shown so far but that's because they haven't had a stud RB. They do now in Sanders and so the bulk of the touches will go to Sanders. But Scott can handle himself and Hyde would be a really good addition just to mix things up sometimes and keep people fresh.

3 hours ago, Infam said:

It is what we do, though. We have a RBBC, yet we do use "the hot hand". If Sanders gets going, nobody would suggest he rides the bench here for the RBBCs sake.

Exactly.......Pedersen has shown that he will limit touches if someone else matches up better or has a hot hand.  Sanders will get his touches, but they won't overload him week to week.

Scott and Hyde can be very productive......and having 3-4 versatile backs will be beneficial in absorbing an injury to the group.

Rumors have expanded to include Devonta Freeman and Shady McCoy.

 

All things considered, I'd still want Hyde of those three. And I agree with the PhillyVoice take that Shady could be justifiable if they think he has anything left, but Devonta is redundant with Sanders and Scott.

Never understood why people and even writers were worried about the Eagles backfield.  the FA class was ridiculously talented, cheap and deep.  We get our pick between Hyde and Donta Freeman and it won't cost more than $3m.

 

Hyde fits this offense and this rotation like a glove.  Only issue is that him and Sanders make a pretty fumble-y tandem.

On 5/13/2020 at 5:15 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't necessarily buy this RBBC thing though. Yes that's what Doug and Duce have shown so far but that's because they haven't had a stud RB. They do now in Sanders and so the bulk of the touches will go to Sanders. But Scott can handle himself and Hyde would be a really good addition just to mix things up sometimes and keep people fresh.

Lesean McCoy played for duce and he was the primary back and had his best years for Duce. Sanders was the basically the primary back last year because duce believed in him. The whole duce has an awful rotation and no one will ever be properly used is overblown in my opinion. 

Duces worst years were when we had running backs that didn't fit the system or were just flat out crappy talent. 

21 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Never understood why people and even writers were worried about the Eagles backfield.  the FA class was ridiculously talented, cheap and deep.  We get our pick between Hyde and Donta Freeman and it won't cost more than $3m.

 

Hyde fits this offense and this rotation like a glove.  Only issue is that him and Sanders make a pretty fumble-y tandem.

Hyde did have 4 fumbles last year with a career total of 15 fumbles since entering the league in 2014, which is not ideal, but the Eagles would be hard pressed to find a better complement to Sanders and Scott in the free agency pool.

I wouldn't worry too much about the fumbling issue. Here is a list of the other RBs that fumbled the ball at least 4 times last year, compared to the Eagles RBs and the trio of RBs the Eagles have interest in:

 

Chris Carson (7)

Dalvin Cook (5)

Derrick Henry (5)

Devin Singletary (4)

Kenjon Barner (4)

Melvin Gordon III (4)

Alvin Kamara (4)

 

Eagles RBs

Boston Scott (4)

Miles Sanders (2)

 

Free Agent Targets

Carlos Hyde (4)

Devonta Freeman (3)

LeSean McCoy (3)

 

There are some pretty big names at RB that fumble the ball at least as often as Hyde did last year. Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Melvin Gordon III, and Alvin Kamara are all guys I'm sure you would love to have on this team, financial implications aside.

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Duces worst years were when we had running backs that didn't fit the system or were just flat out crappy talent. 

Which I guess ultimately was the point I was getting at buddy.

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Which I guess ultimately was the point I was getting at buddy.

That was my point too. I just get annoyed with it more them most I think lol

54 minutes ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

Hyde did have 4 fumbles last year with a career total of 15 fumbles since entering the league in 2014, which is not ideal, but the Eagles would be hard pressed to find a better complement to Sanders and Scott in the free agency pool.

I wouldn't worry too much about the fumbling issue. Here is a list of the other RBs that fumbled the ball at least 4 times last year, compared to the Eagles RBs and the trio of RBs the Eagles have interest in:

 

Chris Carson (7)

Dalvin Cook (5)

Derrick Henry (5)

Devin Singletary (4)

Kenjon Barner (4)

Melvin Gordon III (4)

Alvin Kamara (4)

 

Eagles RBs

Boston Scott (4)

Miles Sanders (2)

 

Free Agent Targets

Carlos Hyde (4)

Devonta Freeman (3)

LeSean McCoy (3)

 

There are some pretty big names at RB that fumble the ball at least as often as Hyde did last year. Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Melvin Gordon III, and Alvin Kamara are all guys I'm sure you would love to have on this team, financial implications aside.

 

 

I'm not worried about it.  Sanders/Hyde/Scott might end up being the best backfield in the NFC East and that's saying a LOT.  But you know in your heart we will lose a game because of a fumble from that group.

On 5/11/2020 at 11:09 AM, Infam said:

I'd still rather trade for Fournette, but this is probably the best consolation price available.

I don't think Fournette would be happy as a part time back. 

Apparently some scuttlebutt about Devonta Freeman has been surfacing. Dude might be washed. I’d still rather have Hyde. 

4 hours ago, FastFreddie said:

Apparently some scuttlebutt about Devonta Freeman has been surfacing. Dude might be washed. I’d still rather have Hyde. 

I think Seattle have made him an offer? Apparently a really good offer for the role he'll likely play for any team.

On 5/12/2020 at 9:06 PM, DeathByEagle said:

If they wanted a Fournette type of guy at that amount of money they could have just resigned Howard and not had to give up more picks. 

To be fair Fournette is a better receiver than Howard. I think the Eagles value that a lot in a RB. Regardless i think it's a moot point. I cant see the Eagles wanting to spend the money or draft currency.

the Eagles need a power back. Hyde is the choice, imo.

Looks like Seattle is gonna get him.

 

Oh well. Combine this with Devonta’s overpuffed contract demands, and looks like Shady’s on his way.