WIP is complete and total trash. All they do is pander to the uneducated, loud mouthed, stereotypical negadelphia fan.

2 hours ago, zenclaybourne said:

He set multiple records in consecutive games at the end of 2018.

Really......I dont remember.  Probably something with completion %.  I remember his TD:Int ratio wasnt that great and they ran the ball more.

5 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Foles played out of his mind but it was really only 2 games.  Now luckily they were the 2 most important games in Eagles history and I'm glad he did but it was still just 2 games.

After taking over for Wentz in the regular season, he didnt play all that great.  The 1st playoff game vs Atl he wasnt that great.  When he took over in 2018 and got them to the playoffs where they beat the Bears and then lost to the Saints he really didn't play that great.  People act like he dominated whenever he came in for Carson.  When in reality he did so for 2 games.

He was up and down. In 2017 against New York he was really good. Against the Raiders he wasn't. Against the Cowboys with reduced time he wasn't. Against Atlanta he made plays but was up and down. Then the next 2 games he was incredible. 

Cataldi is off the mark sometimes but he's a great entertainer, one of the best..

17 hours ago, toolg said:

How does that work for ratings? If I get in the car and WIP is on, when I hear Angelo's voice i go "woops" then quickly change the station. On a rare occaision he can be spot on, but there's only so much of his idiocy I can take.

 

7 hours ago, T-1000 said:

WIP is complete and total trash. All they do is pander to the uneducated, loud mouthed, stereotypical negadelphia fan.

Ratings!

McNabb is rated fairly.  Some criticism of him is fair, but he is still the best quarterback this franchise has ever had for a prolonged period of time.  The Foles debate is purely emotional.  From a business perspective this made sense and it was the right thing to do for both quarterbacks. 

55 minutes ago, hey suess said:

 

Ratings!

I suppose I can't assume people will like/dislike the same things as I do.

3 hours ago, JP HOF said:

Cataldi is off the mark sometimes but he's a great entertainer, one of the best..

He's a drama queen ****!!!

He's either too hyped or too down

It might be a show and his gimmick, but he's almost  Un-listenable 

9 minutes ago, Matt03785 said:

He's a drama queen ****!!!

He's either too hyped or too down

It might be a show and his gimmick, but he's almost  Un-listenable 

His emotion about the Birds played a part in me becoming a fan.

12 minutes ago, JP HOF said:

His emotion about the Birds played a part in me becoming a fan.

If that was the case with me...

We would've won the Super Bowl in 92, 93, 94, 96, 02, 03, 04, 05 (pre season hype) and prob a handful of other years

He builds you up only for the team to let you down harshly...

Can't get too high or too low rooting for any Philadelphia team, you'll go insane

Tough to compare these 3 QBs......McNabb and Wentz had certain advantages that Foles did not.  Wentz is the most athletic, Foles is the most unflappable.  McNabb had a pretty poor supporting cast most of his career, Foles got f---- by being traded to piss poor head coaches and being forced into free agency by the Eagles commitment to Wentz.

When Foles was drafted, I believed that he would be the eagles QB for 10 years.....he was a bit raw, but with coaching and experience, he would have been a winner here.  His biggest problem have been injuries.  People whine about his consistency.....it's almost impossible to be consistent when you're in and out of the lineup, being under really bad coaches like Fisher and Marrone......holy sh--, Brady would have struggled under those idiots.

Wentz had the incredible benefit when he was drafted to be tutored by Pedersen, Reich, Defilippo.and Chase Daniel.....and he and McNabb were in the same offense for years. Foles has been in 4-5 offense, 5 head coaches, 8 offensive coordinators.  If you look at the best QBs in the NFL, they had the same head coaches for years, the same offense.....consistency comes with familiarity and mastering the offense your in.

And then there is leadership......which can get the most out of the guys around you and can inspire a defense. It can give a coach complete confidence in a QB and the confidence of those around him.  Wentz and Foles are good leaders, McNabb was just average.  

I've seen Foles do things with his accuracy and placement,  that I never saw McNabb or Wentz do......I've seen Wentz play at an MVP level and McNabb create something out of nothing. 

But when Wentz is healthy and fully confident, he is one of the most dangerous QBs in the NFL.  Foles is very good in high pressure situations and McNabb was a very good regular season QB.  I'm curious to see how Wentz handles being in playoff games, and if Foles can stay healthy and get the bears to the playoffs.  

If I had to pick one guy, it would be Wentz, with Foles close behind and then McNabb, although if McNabb wins that super bowl, he probably ends up in the HOF.

13 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Foles played out of his mind but it was really only 2 games.  Now luckily they were the 2 most important games in Eagles history and I'm glad he did but it was still just 2 games.

After taking over for Wentz in the regular season, he didnt play all that great.  The 1st playoff game vs Atl he wasnt that great.  When he took over in 2018 and got them to the playoffs where they beat the Bears and then lost to the Saints he really didn't play that great.  People act like he dominated whenever he came in for Carson.  When in reality he did so for 2 games.

That game against NO,  brees wasn't great, against atlanta, Ryan wasn't great, in the super bowl, Brady was great and Foles outplayed him......he has a very good playoff record, and has proven he is unflappable in the most important games.

Nobody acts like he dominated when wentz went down......but Foles was 6-0 in the games where he finished the game including beating the rams, securing the division and winning the next 2 games to secure home field advantage  and then the 2 playoff games and the super bowl.  

So you can downplay it all you want, no QB in the super bowl era has ever done that for the eagles.....Foles is a clutch QB, he may not be pretty and it may not be "great", but he has never let playoff pressure do anything but make him better......

 

8 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Really......I dont remember.  Probably something with completion %.  I remember his TD:Int ratio wasnt that great and they ran the ball more.

Against the Texans, he set the franchise record for passing yards with 471.

Against the Redskins, he broke his own franchise record for completion percentage in a game. He also tied the NFL record for consecutive completions.

His 72.3 percent accuracy on the season was second best in history among QBs with at least 160 attempts at that point, behind only Drew Brees who had done it that year.

He had a completion percentage over 70 percent in four consecutive games, tying the franchise record also held by Wentz.

As for running the ball more, Foles had 31, 49 and 33 pass attempts in the final three regular season games, 37.7 per game. Wentz's previous three games were 28, 39 and 32 attempts, 33 per game. Foles had 6 TD passes and 3 INTs during that span.

The team scored 86 points in the final three games of the season. The leading rushers in those games were Wendell Smallwood with 48, Darren Sproles with 32 and Smallwood again with 53. There were 28, 21 and 30 non-qb rushing attempts, 26.3 per game.

The team scored 76 points in the final three games with Wentz. The leading rusher in those three game was Josh Adams where he had 84, 85 and 36. There were 27, 29 and 10 attempts in those games, 22 per game including the clear outlier.

This isn't meant as a knock on Wentz. He was playing with a broken bone in his back. He played his heart out, but by the end he wasn't healthy enough to keep going. It's wrong to say Foles didn't play well in his absence.

23 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Where in NC bro?

Cary

 

WIP sucks. When I found out I could stream it (years ago), I listened for a few days and was reminded how much it sucks.

On 5/12/2020 at 3:52 PM, AngryBird said:

McNabb's right where he should be. Pretty good NFL quarterback. Lots of average years, lots of good ones. Choked in the Super Bowl. Glad we had him for the 11 years we did, lots of other teams were worse off than we were by a longshot. 

That's about where I'm at re McNabb. He belongs in the hall of Very Good.

13 hours ago, JP HOF said:

Cataldi is off the mark sometimes but he's a great entertainer, one of the best..

9 hours ago, JP HOF said:

His emotion about the Birds played a part in me becoming a fan.

10 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

That game against NO,  brees wasn't great, against atlanta, Ryan wasn't great, in the super bowl, Brady was great and Foles outplayed him......he has a very good playoff record, and has proven he is unflappable in the most important games.

Nobody acts like he dominated when wentz went down......but Foles was 6-0 in the games where he finished the game including beating the rams, securing the division and winning the next 2 games to secure home field advantage  and then the 2 playoff games and the super bowl.  

So you can downplay it all you want, no QB in the super bowl era has ever done that for the eagles.....Foles is a clutch QB, he may not be pretty and it may not be "great", but he has never let playoff pressure do anything but make him better......

 

 

10 hours ago, zenclaybourne said:

Against the Texans, he set the franchise record for passing yards with 471.

Against the Redskins, he broke his own franchise record for completion percentage in a game. He also tied the NFL record for consecutive completions.

His 72.3 percent accuracy on the season was second best in history among QBs with at least 160 attempts at that point, behind only Drew Brees who had done it that year.

He had a completion percentage over 70 percent in four consecutive games, tying the franchise record also held by Wentz.

As for running the ball more, Foles had 31, 49 and 33 pass attempts in the final three regular season games, 37.7 per game. Wentz's previous three games were 28, 39 and 32 attempts, 33 per game. Foles had 6 TD passes and 3 INTs during that span.

The team scored 86 points in the final three games of the season. The leading rushers in those games were Wendell Smallwood with 48, Darren Sproles with 32 and Smallwood again with 53. There were 28, 21 and 30 non-qb rushing attempts, 26.3 per game.

The team scored 76 points in the final three games with Wentz. The leading rusher in those three game was Josh Adams where he had 84, 85 and 36. There were 27, 29 and 10 attempts in those games, 22 per game including the clear outlier.

This isn't meant as a knock on Wentz. He was playing with a broken bone in his back. He played his heart out, but by the end he wasn't healthy enough to keep going. It's wrong to say Foles didn't play well in his absence.

Sounds like we let the wrong guy leave....

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

 

Sounds like we let the wrong guy leave....

I wouldn't go that far. Wentz was the right choice, because he's better when both are healthy. Foles was hurt by Clowney, and I actually think it was more severe than they let on, and that's why his collar bone broke in week 1.

The funny thing is if we had kept Foles, we still probably take Jalen and it would make far more sense to everybody.

7 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

 

Sounds like we let the wrong guy leave....

I've been and always will be a huge fan of Foles.....but Wentz is a unique talent and when he was drafted, Foles didn't arrive again until after that. Wentz has proven he can play at an MVP level.  I think that he needs to be given every chance to win a championship here.  And drafting Jalen Hurts was a bad idea.  I think that potentially leads to a QB controversy and once that happens, cohesion breaks down, locker rooms are split and confidences are destroyed.  They had other options for a backup QB....and other needs in the draft.

I hope Nick Foles get the bears into the playoffs, and if the eagles don't win the NFC, I hope Foles and the bears do.  I would love to see him stay healthy, and shed that idiotic label of being streaky.  But as for the eagles, they made the right choice.....I think Wentz could be a multiple MVP winner and could win multiple championships.

McNabb is generally underrated IMO. He carried the team through many seasons with no legit WR help. Couple of areas that bugged me though:  his short passing worm burners (mechanics related), getting too muscle bound, and almost every time he opened his dang mouth. Overall he was a great QB for this franchise. His deep passing was on point (when he had a receiver that could get separation). I just finished watching all the 2000’s season videos the Eagles posted on YouTube. Was great to re-acclimate myself with those years.

I am taking Wentz - but closer than expected. Foles can be wildly inconsistent and streaky, but he is a gamer. They both have different strengths/ weaknesses. Health is a factor. Could Foles have done what Wentz did last year with random dudes? Educated guess is no. Give Wentz a few more healthy (PLEASE!!!) years for comparison and I think he will clearly be the guy. Do I think Wentz will nab a SB? He has the ability to - but so much is dependent on the team around him.

8 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

I've been and always will be a huge fan of Foles.....but Wentz is a unique talent and when he was drafted, Foles didn't arrive again until after that. Wentz has proven he can play at an MVP level.  I think that he needs to be given every chance to win a championship here.  And drafting Jalen Hurts was a bad idea.  I think that potentially leads to a QB controversy and once that happens, cohesion breaks down, locker rooms are split and confidences are destroyed.  They had other options for a backup QB....and other needs in the draft.

I hope Nick Foles get the bears into the playoffs, and if the eagles don't win the NFC, I hope Foles and the bears do.  I would love to see him stay healthy, and shed that idiotic label of being streaky.  But as for the eagles, they made the right choice.....I think Wentz could be a multiple MVP winner and could win multiple championships.

Although I was PO'ed at first about the Hurts pick, i get it.  They dont trust Carson to stay healthy and that's 100% fair.  Part of that from here on out is on Carson.  He needs to better protect himself when scrambling.

I still would have rather had a vet backup than Hurts.  I know it's cheaper for a rookie but still.

On 5/13/2020 at 9:12 AM, Matt03785 said:

He's a drama queen ****!!!

He's either too hyped or too down

It might be a show and his gimmick, but he's almost  Un-listenable 

It’s the show and it’s his gimmick. It’s kind of insulting, because that is what he thinks of the fan base, but for years he’s been one of the highest ranked shows on the station so his hitting the mark for someone. 

Nicky6 for the win baby, and he is more than a one game wonder, or one season wonder. Strange career for sure but he had gear in the Hall of Fame before 2017. And miss me with Nick couldn’t have gone 10-2 or whatever disrespect, 2013 happened. Winning a Super Bowl is one of the hardest things for any QB to accomplish, and winning one with brilliant lights out play? Hardly ever happens. Nicky6 did it man. 

1 hour ago, Runtherock said:

Nicky6 for the win baby, and he is more than a one game wonder, or one season wonder. Strange career for sure but he had gear in the Hall of Fame before 2017. And miss me with Nick couldn’t have gone 10-2 or whatever disrespect, 2013 happened. Winning a Super Bowl is one of the hardest things for any QB to accomplish, and winning one with brilliant lights out play? Hardly ever happens. Nicky6 did it man. 

2013 was more scheme and surprise than it was Foles. I said that to friends at the time and I still believe it now.