Who are "Your Guys" for the Draft?

[KDUB1510]

4 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

You don't have any first rounders as "your guy"?  I'm coming around on Ebiketie.  I like Jurgens, Muma, Cross, Pierce and Strong too.  

Yea i do but but i wanted to put a few less obvious names out there. In the 1st round my guys are Kyle Hamilton, Treylon Burks, Andrew Booth, Jermaine Johnson, Jameson Williams, Jaquan Brisker & Devin Lloyd. Devonte Wyatt was on the list until i found out about his age and domestic violence concerns. We come away with any two of these players after day 1 and ill be very happy. 

[bitbased]

4 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Agreed.  He's my top guy but it's unlikely we'll get him.  Our only shot would be if Malik Willis gets picked at 2 by Detroit...then Sauce is there at 6 when Carolina is on the clock, and we swing a deal with them to move up.  Carolina has no 2nd or 3rd round picks so they could certainly be looking to move back if Willis is gone and they don't want to take Pickett at 6.  Unlikely.  But possible.

Yup, I just discussed this in the blog. Trade 15, 51 and 83 to move up to 6. Caveat is that we almost would certainly have to trade down at 18 to acquire another 2nd or 3rd. I wouldn't want to not have a pick between 18 and 101.

[EaglesAddict]

7 minutes ago, bitbased said:

Yup, I just discussed this in the blog. Trade 15, 51 and 83 to move up to 6. Caveat is that we almost would certainly have to trade down at 18 to acquire another 2nd or 3rd. I wouldn't want to not have a pick between 18 and 101.

My thoughts exactly on trading back from 18 if we trade up from 15.  I'd wonder if Carolina would accept 51 plus Dillard or Minshew and a 4th or 5th.  They could be "desperate" to move out of 6 and if they don't really get any other offers, we might be able to pull something off.  If we have to compete with other offers, the price will be steep.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I'd wonder if Carolina would accept 51 plus Dillard or Minshew and a 4th or 5th.  They could be "desperate" to move out of 6

I think they are desperate to move out of 6, as their next pick in the draft is 137.  

They want a QB, but have other needs, and have Darnold.  I bet 15 and Hurts may get it done.

[The Blackfish]

Devin Lloyd.  
Nakobe Dean.  
Chad Muma.  
Kenny Pickett.    
Carson Strong.  
Matt Corral.  
Sauce Gardner.  
Andrew Booth.  
Kyle Hamilton.  
Lewis Cine.  
Dax Hill. 
Jordan Davis.  
DeMarvin Leal.  
Treylon Burks. 
Chris Olave. 
 I haven’t really looked at any O-Linemen or TE’s and I hope they don’t draft one either till the 4th or later, but don’t forget Daniel Faalele, if he’s there at the Eagles pick in in the 3rd round, they’ll take him. 
 Eagles will likely come away with Dax Hill, Chris Olave, Chad Muma, and one of Carson Strong, Kaleb Elenby, or Eric Barriere. 
 Everyone’s anus tightens in the 2nd round around pick 40 if Howell or Corral slip that far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Blackfish]

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I think they are desperate to move out of 6, as their next pick in the draft is 137.  

They want a QB, but have other needs, and have Darnold.  I bet 15 and Hurts may get it done.

Rhules job is on the line for a QB, they’ll either take Pickett, or an OT, knowing a veteran QB is headed there like Baker, or Jimmy G if they find he isn’t crippled. 

[CouchKing]

50 minutes ago, bitbased said:

Yup, I just discussed this in the blog. Trade 15, 51 and 83 to move up to 6. Caveat is that we almost would certainly have to trade down at 18 to acquire another 2nd or 3rd. I wouldn't want to not have a pick between 18 and 101.

I can see a trade up, but for who?

[bitbased]

6 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

I can see a trade up, but for who?

Sauce would be my only target there. That's who the original comment was about in that string of posts.

[Vileborg]

Kenny Pickett seems the most NFL ready. Pickett is definitely an immediate upgrade and furthest along in terms of the QBs up for grabs. Mechanics are pretty solid, vision of the field is good even when under duress and he was under duress a ton with Pitts line. Ran a deep progression offense and is able to read defenses decently well. Has good arm strength and throws a good deep ball. Very accurate and throws with anticipation and zip. Shows elusiveness and the ability to find plays down field under pressure. Shows the ability to take over a game and elevate a team. Pitt didn't suddenly become a powerhouse. It's a mid tier team that showed up on the national stage because of Pickett.

 

His biggest problem is he has small hands. He fumbled 6 times in 12 games his senior season. You can expect a few extra fumbles a year over a standard QB. On earlier film, he had problems shifting his weight to his plant foot on deep drops. He was still accurate but didn't always have the zip on those throws. His pro day and combine film show none of that. Little bit of hero ball at times. He was running for his life a lot at Pitt but would like to see him throw it away more. Not as reckless while scrambling as some we have seen in the past but he needs to throw it away more, imo.

 

He fits more of a Matt Stafford style QB. He's not elite pin point accuracy of Rodgers, nor the technician of Brady but he's good at everything.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Vileborg said:

Kenny Pickett seems the most NFL ready. Pickett is definitely an immediate upgrade and furthest along in terms of the QBs up for grabs. Mechanics are pretty solid, vision of the field is good even when under duress and he was under duress a ton with Pitts line. Ran a deep progression offense and is able to read defenses decently well. Has good arm strength and throws a good deep ball. Very accurate and throws with anticipation and zip. Shows elusiveness and the ability to find plays down field under pressure. Shows the ability to take over a game and elevate a team. Pitt didn't suddenly become a powerhouse. It's a mid tier team that showed up on the national stage because of Pickett.

 

His biggest problem is he has small hands. He fumbled 6 times in 12 games his senior season. You can expect a few extra fumbles a year over a standard QB. On earlier film, he had problems shifting his weight to his plant foot on deep drops. He was still accurate but didn't always have the zip on those throws. His pro day and combine film show none of that. Little bit of hero ball at times. He was running for his life a lot at Pitt but would like to see him throw it away more. Not as reckless while scrambling as some we have seen in the past but he needs to throw it away more, imo.

 

He fits more of a Matt Stafford style QB. He's not elite pin point accuracy of Rodgers, nor the technician of Brady but he's good at everything.

The one thing I notice about all the draft eligible QB's I have watched that Hurts does not do, they throw the deep ball early.

Hurts tries to hit a guy in stride inside the ten, but waits until that guy is at the 15 yard line.  These guys are getting the ball out when the receiver is coming up on the 20 and hitting them in stride.  Hurts is waiting to long and the receiver is slowing down.

[time2rock]

Give me one of these guys on day 1.

My top tier:

Walker

Gardner

Stingley

Booth'

Johnson

Next tier down:

Wilson

Hamilton

Olave

Davis

Lloyd

 

 

[McMahonHeadband]

DT is a huge need now and going forward.  Cox and Hargrave our starting tackles are both on the last year of their deal.  I am excited that there are potentially 3 good dt's in this first round and we have to come away with at least 1. 

[ManchesterEagle]

Trade up/get lucky realistic targets - Stingley JR, Hamilton, Jermaine Johnson. (Would love Sauce, but think he goes top 7 out of our reach)

Stay put - Andrew Booth, Jameson Williams

Trade down - Treylan Burks/George Pickens.

 

[Rob331]

Guys most mocks haven't mentions for the Eagles but who I really like -

• 1st round, Corner - Kair Elam
• 1st/2nd, Safety - Daxton Hill
• 2nd round - DT/DE Logan Hall
• 2nd/3rd round - WR Alec Pierce
• 3rd round - RB Brian Robinson
• 4th round P Matt Araiza

 

[Captain F]

12 hours ago, time2rock said:

Give me one of these guys on day 1.

My top tier:

Walker

Gardner

Stingley

Booth'

Johnson

Next tier down:

Wilson

Hamilton

Olave

Davis

Lloyd

 

 

ANY combo of 2 of those names at 15 and 18 and id be happy. 

[Devaster]

Any good RB's this season? I know the position is devalued, but I feel like the Eagles struggle at that position. And 1st round remains where you can pick the most effective RB's that have the longest careers.

[b_west3]

On 4/21/2022 at 9:38 AM, NCTANK said:

Nobody else going to point out how the name is backwards on this post?

[Random Reglar]

On 4/24/2022 at 3:42 PM, Devaster said:

Any good RB's this season? I know the position is devalued, but I feel like the Eagles struggle at that position. And 1st round remains where you can pick the most effective RB's that have the longest careers.

I'll take a 243 pound RB who runs a 4.42 40.

[dawkins4prez]

Jordan Davis is the kinda big arse dude that dominates another team's biggest arse dude.  I don't actually think he gets out of the top 10.  My other guy is the Punt God.  I firmly believe somebody could spend a 2nd rdr on him and not regret it.

[dawkins4prez]

On 4/22/2022 at 12:45 PM, Vileborg said:

Kenny Pickett seems the most NFL ready. Pickett is definitely an immediate upgrade and furthest along in terms of the QBs up for grabs. Mechanics are pretty solid, vision of the field is good even when under duress and he was under duress a ton with Pitts line. Ran a deep progression offense and is able to read defenses decently well. Has good arm strength and throws a good deep ball. Very accurate and throws with anticipation and zip. Shows elusiveness and the ability to find plays down field under pressure. Shows the ability to take over a game and elevate a team. Pitt didn't suddenly become a powerhouse. It's a mid tier team that showed up on the national stage because of Pickett.

 

His biggest problem is he has small hands. He fumbled 6 times in 12 games his senior season. You can expect a few extra fumbles a year over a standard QB. On earlier film, he had problems shifting his weight to his plant foot on deep drops. He was still accurate but didn't always have the zip on those throws. His pro day and combine film show none of that. Little bit of hero ball at times. He was running for his life a lot at Pitt but would like to see him throw it away more. Not as reckless while scrambling as some we have seen in the past but he needs to throw it away more, imo.

 

He fits more of a Matt Stafford style QB. He's not elite pin point accuracy of Rodgers, nor the technician of Brady but he's good at everything.

That dude seems to have a ceiling of fringe starter and a floor of fringe starter.  The only Qb in this draft I have a late 1st rd grade on would be Corral.  I like Willis, but a 3 yr project is not worth a 1st rdr.

[Cochis_Calhoun]

On 4/24/2022 at 8:42 PM, Devaster said:

Any good RB's this season? I know the position is devalued, but I feel like the Eagles struggle at that position. And 1st round remains where you can pick the most effective RB's that have the longest careers.

Don't think there's anyone there worth a first rounder, if you could get Kenneth Walker late 2nd, he's faster than Sanders on the same build and has more solidity about him having had a 260 carry season in college at 6.2 yards a tote.

[Traveler Vic]

Hamilton is slidding. We probably could get him at 15. Have no idea where Sause or Stingley will go, could be between 4-14. Have to watch how it develops.. Jonson II might be there at 15. Karlaftis will probably be there. 

If we can't get Our guy at 15, I would love to trade down from 15 towards bottom of the first and the top of the second round. Some real good values. Perhaps pick up an extra second in the process. Looking for Safeties, Corners, and DE in that range round 1-2. 

[Shalodeep]

On 4/21/2022 at 9:14 PM, MidMoFo said:

Probably out of reach: Hutchison, Walker,  Thibodeax, Gardner.

Hope we get chance at: Hamilton, JD99, Johnson II, Stingley 

Top 100: Lloyd, Hill, Burks, McDuffie, Cine, Brisker, Winfrey, Ebiketie, Watson, T Jones, Breece Hall, Muma, K Gordon,  George Pickens, Pitre, Woolen, Skyy Moore, Nick Cross, Rachaad White, Justyn Ross, Verone McKinley

Day 3: Damone Clark, Brian Robinson Jr, Zion McCollum, Jesse Luketa, Jelani Woods, Alontae Taylor, Cade Mays, Alex Wright, Matt Araiza, Sterling Weatherford, Jamaree Salyer, Cole Turner, Bubba Bolden, Derion Kendrick, Zander Horvath

 

Short list bolded…

Cole Turner is definitely someone who would be a great Rodgers replacement at TE

[CouchKing]

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I’ll riot if we draft Pickett or Burks in the first round.   
 

Lloyd isn’t happening.  

I just gave my Master of the Draft list a tweek. Dropped Corral, Lloyd and Burks. Added CB's Sauce, Stingley. Jermaine Johnson.

[MidMoFo]

49 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Cole Turner is definitely someone who would be a great Rodgers replacement at TE

Agreed. Turner I think could play right away. Jelani Woods has the potential to be a top 3 TE in the league, but would have to develop into it. He started college as a QB and moved to TE late. At 6’7”, 260 lbs athletically he tested with similar numbers to Kyle Pitts…