May 1, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, NOTW said: We've spent years - years - complaining during games about how bad the back 7 is, giving up easy 3rd down conversions, poor coverage for slants slot receivers & tight ends, blowing leads, letting teams come back. Being consistently weak in the back 7 isn't a winning strategy. Yes, you build the lines. But there are 22 starting positions on the team. They haven't drafted a difference maker in the secondary in 20 years. At some point you have to. We spent years complaining about the receivers and linebackers too and that‘s solved now. But sure, secondary still looks terrible.
May 1, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, Infam said: We spent years complaining about the receivers and linebackers too and that‘s solved now. But sure, secondary still looks terrible. We sure do seem to be getting a lot of LBs and adding massive DTs. Are we switching to some sort of 3-4 look?
May 1, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, judunno said: We sure do seem to be getting a lot of LBs and adding massive DTs. Are we switching to some sort of 3-4 look? I certainly think Gannon is going to go with different fronts and perhaps more 3-4.
May 1, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, judunno said: We sure do seem to be getting a lot of LBs and adding massive DTs. Are we switching to some sort of 3-4 look? Yes. Looks that way. Jordan is the key and could be a monster pick if he develops. Getting Dean to boot was gravy. Eagles probably can't believe their luck.
May 1, 20223 yr I'm comfortable with this, because Kelce participated in identifying his replacement. Its clear how important that position is to the long term success of a team.
May 1, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, Kz! said: Yeah but now Dean is going to get third round money when he deserved second round money! If he uses this as motivation balls out with a chip on his shoulders he'll get a lucrative extension.
May 1, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Heavywchamp said: If he uses this as motivation balls out with a chip on his shoulders he'll get a lucrative extension. And we got a guy balling out on a third round contract until then.. sounds good.
May 1, 20223 yr On 4/30/2022 at 12:07 PM, NOTW said: We've spent years - years - complaining during games about how bad the back 7 is, giving up easy 3rd down conversions, poor coverage for slants slot receivers & tight ends, blowing leads, letting teams come back. Being consistently weak in the back 7 isn't a winning strategy. Yes, you build the lines. But there are 22 starting positions on the team. They haven't drafted a difference maker in the secondary in 20 years. At some point you have to. And actually win games by allowing fewer points than the opponent? Who's ever heard of such a thing.
May 2, 20223 yr On 4/29/2022 at 9:05 PM, Procus said: Seems to me this pick is indication that Dickerson is staying at guard. He's too good there. I don't think we know for sure. Dickerson and Jurgens can both play Center and Guard. If you have low RAS/sparq players or Ols, maybe you put them at one spot and hope that the years of practicing at that one spot will carry them through to adequate play. But the Eagles have a lot of freakbeasts, pro bowlers, all pros, hofers out there. Cam Jurgens with a 9.94 RAS is yet another freakbeast. As I see it, these freakbeasts are not heavily reliant of years of learned technique at one particular spot. They're great athletes who can do many things. If there are players, oliners who can do many things, they're likely to be the freakbeasts. I've been talking about the possible versatility that the freakbeasts that the Eagles had last year could have been doing. This year is same as last, but the Eagles added another one. In the medium term it would be best I think if the Eagles had a Big center and a Quick and Fast center. They have them. I would probably want the Big center in there in short yardage situations probably. Assuming they're the same ability. With versatile freakbeasts the Eagles can do quite a lot of different things. Kelce and Jurgens are both quick / fast centers, Dickerson is a big center. The Eagles could put all 3 on the field, any one of the 3 could snap the ball, maybe the quick / fast ones would run then block, and Dickerson would be staying put around the line of scrimmage. Some of the best Kelce highlights are him running 30 yards downfield, blocking one guy, then blocking another. That's the kind of thing that Jurgens can do. Coming out of high school, Jurgens was the #1 player in Nebraska. The #4 Tight End in the country according to ESPN. He started at Nebraska as a Tight End. Freakbeast. More athleticism than technique. I'm thinking year 1 is not all about Jurgens sitting and waiting for Kelce to retire. I'm wanting Jurgens out on the field. A couple months ago I posted this video, of a single game against Elkhorn. Multiple powerful runs, a TD catch. Getting Jurgens accustomed to the speed of the game by playing, mostly, "blocking TE". But also, just, on the field. He's on the field, and you're not sure where he's going to line up. When you do that, that allows you to put the other freakbeasts in positions where they can get TDs. Jurgens at Left or Right TE first. Then FB. Then Jurgens goes to RG, Landon to C, and Kelce to TE/FB. Or Jurgens to C and Kelce to FB. Jurgens goes to RG, Driscoll (?) to RT and Lane to TE (or QB or FB), Jurgens to LG, Landon to LT, Mailata to TE (or FB or QB). (when one of the freakbeast ols is said to be QB, that doesn't mean that Hurts is standing somewhere different than he usually does, he's in the pistol or shotgun, there's just a 300+ pound freakbeast standing in front of him, maybe taking the snap, maybe not, a BB/QB.
May 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Random Reglar said: I don't think we know for sure. I think it's pretty clear. Don't forget that Isaac Semulo also is a center in addition to being a guard. Jurgens was specifically drafted to be a center - with a second round pick. That's a high pick for the team to burn for that position.
May 2, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Procus said: I think it's pretty clear. Don't forget that Isaac Semulo also is a center in addition to being a guard. Jurgens was specifically drafted to be a center - with a second round pick. That's a high pick for the team to burn for that position. We did that last year too. But this year Kelce was involved and from what he said I think it is the plan to let Dickerson stay at LG and while Jurgens competes at RG he will be our center when Kelce misses time or retires.
May 2, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, Procus said: I think it's pretty clear. Don't forget that Isaac Semulo also is a center in addition to being a guard. Jurgens was specifically drafted to be a center - with a second round pick. That's a high pick for the team to burn for that position. Still, I dunno. What you're saying makes sense though. There's certainly things like Kelce picking his replacement, Jurgens. And I'd say that probably, in 3 years, Jurgens gets more snaps at Center and Landon gets more snaps at Guard. But I'm in favor of switching it up on occasion. Both can play C and G. It's probably useful for both to be sharp at playing Center.
May 2, 20223 yr Sirianni pretty much said that while they are both versatile, Jurgens is a center who can play guard whereas Dickerson is a guard who can play center.
May 3, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: Sirianni pretty much said that while they are both versatile, Jurgens is a center who can play guard whereas Dickerson is a guard who can play center. It'll be interesting to see if Jurgens can be cross trained at OG as it isn't something he has done before. If he can then that's big because he may then play this year if Dickerson or Driscoll miss time.
May 3, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: It'll be interesting to see if Jurgens can be cross trained at OG as it isn't something he has done before. If he can then that's big because he may then play this year if Dickerson or Driscoll miss time. So cool that even at his age noone really expects Kelce to ever miss time. 🙂
May 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Infam said: So cool that even at his age noone really expects Kelce to ever miss time. 🙂 He is Mr Iron Man. That said at least now if he did we have someone who can step in.
May 3, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: It'll be interesting to see if Jurgens can be cross trained at OG as it isn't something he has done before. If he can then that's big because he may then play this year if Dickerson or Driscoll miss time. Jurgen's is wayyyy too small to play guard, he would get man handled at right guard at his current size....
May 3, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, Jeep_man said: Jurgen's is wayyyy too small to play guard, he would get man handled at right guard at his current size.... Jurgens, 6-3, 290 Seumalo 6-4, 303 Opeta 6-4, 305 Driscoll 6-5, 312 Awosika 6-3, 312 Anderson 6-4, 314 Dillard 6-5, 315 (sauna pic: 320) Dickerson 6-6, 330 He’s the lightest, but compared to the other players on our roster that can play guard he’s not that far off. Except for Dickerson.. That said Dillard has excellent size for a guard now! (Numbers from official team page)
May 3, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Infam said: Jurgens, 6-3, 290 Seumalo 6-4, 303 Opeta 6-4, 305 Driscoll 6-5, 312 Awosika 6-3, 312 Anderson 6-4, 314 Dillard 6-5, 315 (sauna pic: 320) Dickerson 6-6, 330 He’s the lightest, but compared to the other players on our roster that can play guard he’s not that far off. Except for Dickerson.. That said Dillard has excellent size for a guard now! (Numbers from official team page) You have to take into consideration that Jurgens is a rookie also along with the lack of size is a recipe for trouble as a guard.... Dillard unfortunately can only play LT and nothing else...
May 3, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Jeep_man said: You have to take into consideration that Jurgens is a rookie also along with the lack of size is a recipe for trouble as a guard.... Dillard unfortunately can only play LT and nothing else... True, might need time. As for Dillard, I put my trust in Stoutland.
May 3, 20223 yr On 5/1/2022 at 10:29 AM, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I'm comfortable with this, because Kelce participated in identifying his replacement. Its clear how important that position is to the long term success of a team. That really doesn't make me feel any better about the pick. Kelce was looking at centers and centers only. Sure he likes this guy. But if he was looking at other positions, maybe he'd like those guys too. Very rare to draft a center in the first two rounds to sit. There was some high end edge rushing talent on the board. I'd take that in the 2nd over a center. Also lots of center prospects in next year's draft too.
May 3, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: Jurgens was 303 at the combine. Took the numbers from the official Eagles site. Strange, why would they go with a lower number? https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/players-roster/
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