IFB DOG Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 Put it in ATNFL. I'm sure you'll have fun with it here, too. Time's yours. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29180225/nfl-proposal-improve-draft-picks-minority-hires The NFL is considering improving draft picks to teams that hire minority candidates as either coaches or general managers, sources confirmed to ESPN. Under the plan, a team would improve its third-round pick by 10 spots for hiring a minority candidate as general manger (or equivalent-level position) and six spots for hiring a minority candidate as head coach, according to NFL.com, which first reported on the proposal. The draft boosts could stack, allowing a team to move up 16 spots altogether. Retaining minority coaches and general managers would be rewarded as well. According to NFL.com, a team would move up five spots in the fourth round if its coach or general manager was entering their third year on the job. A quarterback coach hire would earn a fourth-round compensatory pick if they are retained for one year. Teams would also receive draft compensation for losing minority candidates to other teams, according to the report. A minority candidate leaving to become a head coach or general manager would be worth a third-round compensatory pick, while a coordinator hire would garner a fifth-round pick for the former team. This proposal was submitted by the league's diversity committee and is expected to be addressed during a virtual meeting Tuesday, a league source confirmed. Asked about the proposal, the NFL declined comment to NFL.com. But a league source told ESPN's Dan Graziano that commissioner Roger Goodell is in favor of the proposals. During this offseason, only one head coach hired -- the Washington Redskins' Ron Rivera -- was a minority candidate. Only three of the past 20 head-coaching hires were minorities, and there are currently four black head coaches in the league. Only two of the NFL's 32 general managers are minorities as well. The NFL has the Rooney Rule, which requires every team to interview a qualified minority candidate for head-coaching jobs, but it does not affect the hiring decisions of owners. Therefore, according to a league source, the NFL is also considering requiring multiple interviews of minority candidates for head-coaching positions and expanding the Rooney Rule to include coordinator positions. The league will also consider removing a rule that allows teams to block assistant coaches from interviewing for other teams' coordinator positions, a league source told ESPN. The rest of Tuesday's agenda is likely to include a focus on health and safety measures as well as reopening procedures. The league is still operating under the guideline that, until every team can have its coaches and players in its facility, no team can. But teams may be able to open their buildings to administrative staff depending on local guidelines.
20dawk4life Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 "Equivalent Level Position” Be ready for a sheet ton of made up positions with no power being created. 1
RPeeteRules Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 The Browns, who change coaches often, may start changing each year to get an improved draft pick. 3
Thrive Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 In many ways, this is so insulting to minorities. Anyone else think this is one of the more overtly racist (AGAINST minorities) acts the NFL has taking in recent times? And would completely neuter any minority in such positions. Unreal in a P.C. world that the NFL comes out and basically calls minorities inferior. 2
Dave Moss Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, RPeeteRules said: The Browns, who change coaches often, may start changing each year to get an improved draft pick. Not only did Art Modell move the Browns in the mid 1990s. He also took the Browns HOF tight end and made him the Ravens general manager. Ozzie Newsome then built the Ravens into a Super Bowl champion. I only bring this up because Newsome is African American. 2
hputenis Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, Thrive said: In many ways, this is so insulting to minorities. Anyone else think this is one of the more overtly racist (AGAINST minorities) acts the NFL has taking in recent times? And would completely neuter any minority in such positions. Unreal in a P.C. world that the NFL comes out and basically calls minorities inferior. Interesting perspective. I don't agree, and in fact, I think it's ridiculous that the best man for the job might not be in that role because now teams have actual incentives to hire minorities. Good thing it's the entertainment industry....... 1
DEagle7 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 This is stupid. Signed, A liberal Commie Bastid (pronouns Xhlee and Ph@rr)
Thrive Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, hputenis said: Interesting perspective. I don't agree, and in fact, I think it's ridiculous that the best man for the job might not be in that role because now teams have actual incentives to hire minorities. Good thing it's the entertainment industry....... That’s precisely the point. It makes it clear that a minority is very likely NOT the best man for the job. Further, any minority that would otherwise have been considered the best man for the job is now clouded by the incentive. It is an embarrassment. Thankfully it won’t get far. 1
20dawk4life Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: This is stupid. Signed, A liberal Commie Bastid (pronouns Xhlee and Ph@rr) Bigot!!! Also, do women count as a minority in this case or is it just based on skin color?
RPeeteRules Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 Reading this again, it makes it so a team may be less inclined to hire a minority coach (or coordinator) from another team as that other team would get a comp pick. Lots of college coaches would get more chances in the NFL possibly along with a large increase in coordinators who are minorities in hopes they advance elsewhere and you get a comp pick. 1
20dawk4life Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, RPeeteRules said: Reading this again, it makes it so a team may be less inclined to hire a minority coach (or coordinator) from another team as that other team would get a comp pick. Lots of college coaches would get more chances in the NFL possibly along with a large increase in coordinators who are minorities in hopes they advance elsewhere and you get a comp pick. Can pretty much rule out a minority getting a promotion to a division rival. 1
DEagle7 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Bigot!!! Also, do women count as a minority in this case or is it just based on skin color? Ugh, they're called "The Peniley Challenged". People like you Fing disgust me. 6
20dawk4life Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Ugh, they're called "The Peniley Challenged". People like you Fing disgust me. Not all women are missing a penise you fascist scum!!!! 1 6
NOTW Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 Howie gonna hire a bunch of minorities now to get more draft picks for the QB factory. 2 2
kiwieagle Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 What a silly idea. Surely there are better ways to address the issue than this nonsense
Dave Moss Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 Instead of having to trade up during the draft, they could just fire Doug and hire Duce. I like it.
DEagle7 Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: Not all women are missing a penise you fascist scum!!!! Learned that the hard way in Thailand. The hard way! 2
xzmattzx Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 What happens if a team hires a minority in a position, the draft takes place, and then that person is fired?
NCTANK Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 11 hours ago, RPeeteRules said: The Browns, who change coaches often, may start changing each year to get an improved draft pick. i see a pun
20dawk4life Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 Does drafting/signing white players that aren't QBs, Oline, or TEs gain any draft capital?
birdman#12 Posted May 16, 2020 Posted May 16, 2020 Diversity can be a good thing......FORCED or ENGINEERED diversity is rarely a good thing. The rooney rule didn't work because it was a really stupid rule. Now the NFL is trying to make it more idiotic. Things like this is what causes more resentment and creates a backlash the leads to more racism. Experience, qualifications, peer recommendations, management recommendations, interviews and personality, emotional intelligence......that's what should be considered in hiring. "....not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character".....MLK's words should echo in all of us......and idiotic rules like the NFL is considering are not going to change the people who ignore it. Change, acceptance, and diversity are growing in a good way.......but when we try to force it, that is what will hamper and hurt the progress made.... 1
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