On 5/16/2022 at 10:09 AM, jsdarkstar said:

All these mass shootings, but our Gun Laws don't need to be changed in anyway whatsoever.

A mentally ill person, who makes threats about Mass shooting at his HS, is allowed to buy an AR-15 and get illegal extended clips and go mass murder people, because it's his Constitutional right. 

The victims rights should outweigh the rights of the gun owner.

This is America. 

Mentally ill people are not permitted to buy guns.

21 minutes ago, greend said:

Mentally ill people are not permitted to buy guns.

In NY it requires a health professional to say he is a threat to the public. Clearly, making threats to his HS would qualify and then it has to be reported. His gun license should have been suspended or revoked last June, but yet he still purchased a gun legally. Something in the system broke down. I hope someone investigates this more thoroughly. 

Ok. So here's the answer. So either the psychiatrist at the hospital didn't find him to be a threat to others or the Police did. Clearly someone made the wrong call. His license should have been revoked. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/buffalo-suspect-lonely-isolated-sign-145744273.html

The Threat: 

Conklin N.Y. (AP) — In the waning days of Payton Gendron’s COVID-19-altered senior year at Susquehanna Valley High School, he logged on to a virtual learning program in economics class that asked: "What do you plan to do when you retire?”

"Murder-suicide,” Gendron typed

The Investigation: Despite his protests that it was all a joke...was questioned by state police over the possible threat and then taken into custody and to a hospital for a psychiatric evaluation under a state mental health law. But a day and a half later, he was released. An investigation found no specific, credible threat against the school or any individual from that sign of trouble.

According to a recording of a conference call of federal and local law enforcement officials Monday that was obtained by The Associated Press, Buffalo Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia said Gendron’s comments he made in school in June 2021 were "generalized statements” and not targeted at anyone in particular or at a specific location, which is why no criminal charges were filed. He said the state police "did everything within the confines of the law.”

The Result: "I was never diagnosed with a mental disability or disorder, and I believe to be perfectly sane,” according to one passage.

 

"Another bad experience was when I had to go to a hospitals ER because I said the word’s ‘murder/suicide’ to an online paper in economics class,” said one entry. "I got out of it because I stuck with the story that I was getting out of class and I just stupidly wrote that down. That is the reason I believe I am still able to purchase guns."

"It was not a joke, I wrote that down because that’s what I was planning to do.”

52 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

In NY it requires a health professional to say he is a threat to the public. Clearly, making threats to his HS would qualify and then it has to be reported. His gun license should have been suspended or revoked last June, but yet he still purchased a gun legally. Something in the system broke down. I hope someone investigates this more thoroughly. 

I agree that it broke down. Just saying that it isn't "legal" for a crazy to buy a gun. It's one of the questions on the federal form. I'm all for checking mental illness back ground though. 

5 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Well, as I was informed, NY already has one. It's a mental health law. When this kid threatened his HS last June and was taken by the Police to the Hospital for a mental health evaluation his gun rights should have been suspended or revoked at that time. The doctor evaluating him should of found that he was a threat to others and reported him. Somewhere in the process the ball was dropped. He should not have been able to legally buy a gun, until a doctor says he is no longer a threat. 

The thing that gets me, is the Parents said they had no idea their son was violent or had hate. I don't buy that for a second.

In high school I don't know that he could have purchased a gun. As I understand it he passed the evaluation by the doctor. What that evaluation entails or the qualifications of the doctor are, I have no idea. 

I don't necessarily disagree with you that the ball may have been dropped somewhere.

I'm not certain there is another law out there to prevent such a situation.

I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out how little the parents did know what was going on. There are a lot of disengaged parents out there.

To be fair my generation was unsupervised quite a bit. More than my child was but we were raised differently in a different time.