May 27, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, BFit said: they should be doing the same measures, but they are unfortunatley government funded, and nothing happens fast when the government is involved. so nothing for public schools then?
May 27, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: so nothing for public schools then? i guess i dont understand your question, because i thought i answered it.......
May 27, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, BFit said: i guess i dont understand your question, because i thought i answered it....... you said public schools are govt funded so it won't happen...so that's not a realistic option. i agree, btw. so i was just asking what can be done at public schools.
May 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: you said public schools are govt funded so it won't happen...so that's not a realistic option. i agree, btw. so i was just asking what can be done at public schools. Why can't it happen? The gov't pulled together 40 billion pretty quick to send to Ukraine.
May 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: Why can't it happen? The gov't pulled together 40 billion pretty quick to send to Ukraine. i said it won't happen...not that it can't. but anything's possible, i suppose. i read somewhere that there are 130,000+ schools in the U.S. & i have no idea what it would cost to upgrade all of the buildings to whatever safety standard is deemed shooter-proof.
May 27, 20223 yr Author 22 minutes ago, BFit said: all of those places are areas where people are allowed to protect themselves. schools are different and need to be treated and protected as such. even if you outright ban guns, and do mass confiscations, youre not going to get rid of all the guns in america. on top of that, the ability to print or build guns still exists, so there will always be the threat of gun violence. why not put efforts into protecting ourselves and our children from these things and not into trying to legislate a solution? The armed officer was the first one killed in the most recent shooting, in the state of Texas with all the best laws for arming citizens.
May 27, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: and i was sort of expecting a "they should be less poor" response. 🖕
May 27, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: and i was sort of expecting a "they should be less poor" response. i missed on that pretty hard i need to put myself into better positions to make jokes.
May 27, 20223 yr 30 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: you said public schools are govt funded so it won't happen...so that's not a realistic option. i agree, btw. so i was just asking what can be done at public schools. also, i didnt it wouldnt happen, it just wouldnt happen fast. it could, though, if the school board decides to divert funds from a few departments in order to fund the upgrades. however, it would take a lot of cooperation from board members.
May 27, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Toastrel said: The armed officer was the first one killed in the most recent shooting, in the state of Texas with all the best laws for arming citizens. why was there only one? why was there an unlocked door that he could enter through?
May 27, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, BFit said: also, i didnt it wouldnt happen, it just wouldnt happen fast. it could, though, if the school board decides to divert funds from a few departments in order to fund the upgrades. however, it would take a lot of cooperation from board members. man...idk. it would be damn expensive for some school districts to pull off. the public school where i live has 4 separate schools for various grades...buildings are old as sheet. one even has a few free standing, trailer type buildings on the property being used as classrooms because they can't fit all the students in the main building. i mean...there are certainly some measures they can take to make them safer...but they'd have to tear everything the f down & re-build to really make an impact. that's your average nepa-poor school district but there are many poorer ones out there.
May 27, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: what about public schools, brah? hazleton has metal detectors. They dont get used.
May 27, 20223 yr Author 8 minutes ago, BFit said: why was there only one? why was there an unlocked door that he could enter through? Was there only one? This was Texas. Quote The district had doubled its safety plan in recent years in response to the 2018 shooting at Santa Fe High School in Houston. The district had its own police force. It had threat assessment teams working at every school. There was a system to report threats. There were fences around schools. Teachers were required to lock classroom doors.
May 27, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, BFit said: also, i didnt it wouldnt happen, it just wouldnt happen fast. it could, though, if the school board decides to divert funds from a few departments in order to fund the upgrades. however, it would take a lot of cooperation from board members. Speaking as a former school board member, this post shows how little the general community member understands about school budgets. Speaking for the district I served in, but I assume it is generally representative of districts at least throughout PA, the VAST majority of our budget is tied up in 2 line items: teacher salaries and benefits (including retirement benefits) and charter/private school tuition for students living within the district that choose to attend a charter/private school. The type of improvements being talked about here to the infrastructure is going to cost millions of dollars. And our district only has 4 schools in it. It will take a whole lot more than cutting a couple of teacher positions to pay for those upgrades. Oh yeah, and we’re also talking about adding multiple new positions for all of the highly trained security guards that are going to be working full time at the schools too.
May 27, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, BFit said: all of those places are areas where people are allowed to protect themselves. schools are different and need to be treated and protected as such. even if you outright ban guns, and do mass confiscations, youre not going to get rid of all the guns in america. on top of that, the ability to print or build guns still exists, so there will always be the threat of gun violence. why not put efforts into protecting ourselves and our children from these things and not into trying to legislate a solution? Not to mention that people who want to kill always find a way
May 27, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: The armed officer was the first one killed in the most recent shooting, in the state of Texas with all the best laws for arming citizens. https://www.kxan.com/investigations/uvalde-school-police-officer-was-first-to-engage-shooter/
May 27, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, greend said: https://www.kxan.com/investigations/uvalde-school-police-officer-was-first-to-engage-shooter/ WTF is up with the changing police story?
May 27, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: man...idk. it would be damn expensive for some school districts to pull off. the public school where i live has 4 separate schools for various grades...buildings are old as sheet. one even has a few free standing, trailer type buildings on the property being used as classrooms because they can't fit all the students in the main building. i mean...there are certainly some measures they can take to make them safer...but they'd have to tear everything the f down & re-build to really make an impact. that's your average nepa-poor school district but there are many poorer ones out there. Our little school pulls it off. Hell I would even pay a little higher tax on gun purchases to help fund it if need be . 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: WTF is up with the changing police story? I can't answer that. I heard this yesterday on the radio as I was driving home.
May 27, 20223 yr What instances (currently) are there where background checks are not performed when purchasing a firearm? Aside from purchasing something like a black powder firearm, where it's not required, of course.
May 27, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, mr_hunt said: man...idk. it would be damn expensive for some school districts to pull off. the public school where i live has 4 separate schools for various grades...buildings are old as sheet. one even has a few free standing, trailer type buildings on the property being used as classrooms because they can't fit all the students in the main building. i mean...there are certainly some measures they can take to make them safer...but they'd have to tear everything the f down & re-build to really make an impact. that's your average nepa-poor school district but there are many poorer ones out there. I... well not me personally, but the company I work for the the department I am the point person to that everyone across the country calls/emails for assistance... build/sell equipment specifically designed for K-12 schools, and that 99% of what we build and ship gets installed in K-12 schools. But when new school buildings are constructed, where they aren't just renovating an existing building or ordering equipment based on the existing infrastructure and most reasonable cost for replacement... its like a 25% chance maybe that they go with the same equipment design... 50% if I'm being optimistic? I vote AGAINST new schools!
May 27, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, Agent23 said: I... well not me personally, but the company I work for the the department I am the point person to that everyone across the country calls/emails for assistance... build/sell equipment specifically designed for K-12 schools, and that 99% of what we build and ship gets installed in K-12 schools. But when new school buildings are constructed, where they aren't just renovating an existing building or ordering equipment based on the existing infrastructure and most reasonable cost for replacement... its like a 25% chance maybe that they go with the same equipment design... 50% if I'm being optimistic? I vote AGAINST new schools! They let you email people? Have they ever seen your posts here?
May 27, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: They let you email people? Have they ever seen your posts here? let me look for my performance review from last year!!!
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