On 7/9/2022 at 10:58 AM, MidMoFo said:

JMO… but a .223 is a bit small for deer hunting. I’ve got a .22-250 which is the same caliber but with more punch behind it and I only use it for varmints. 

oh i agree, my son has .243 and i just got a 30-06, but we didn't have either of our rifles with us. i'm just feeling good about becoming a better shot with some good practice. 

On 7/10/2022 at 8:53 PM, eaglegenius said:

Maybe not. But they could probably make someone who sells a gun privately, if it's been previously registered to them, criminally and/or civilly liable
for any criminal damage done by the subsequent buyer.

IMHO the first step in "gun violence control" should be universal automatic added on prison time for anyone convicted of using a gun in the commission
of any crime. 5, 10 or 25 year mandatory non-reducible "bonus time" depending on the severity of the crime. And there's no reason not to include machetes,
knives or other deadly weapons in the law.

 

First part sounds good on paper, but not realistic…. I sold a pistol to Billy Bob, who traded it to Billy Joe for a side of beef, who gave it to John Boy for some remodel work, who traded it for some real fire meth to… I don’t remember who? It might have been stolen from John Boy… You going to arrest John Boy for not reporting a stolen gun?

Second part is probably already being lobbied for by the for profit prison system we already have in place. How’s that working out? 

 

On 7/11/2022 at 10:54 PM, MidMoFo said:

First part sounds good on paper, but not realistic…. I sold a pistol to Billy Bob, who traded it to Billy Joe for a side of beef, who gave it to John Boy for some remodel work, who traded it for some real fire meth to… I don’t remember who? It might have been stolen from John Boy… You going to arrest John Boy for not reporting a stolen gun?

Second part is probably already being lobbied for by the for profit prison system we already have in place. How’s that working out? 

Its easy

require the sale take place with an ffl as the intermediary

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its easy

require the sale take place with an ffl as the intermediary

Well, that makes you a gun grabbing, commie, libtard in most red states. You can pry mine from my cold dead hands… ToastHusseinObamaJenkins!!!

 

Sarcasm aside… yes, there are some simple gun regulations that could be put in place that any responsible gun owner would have minimal effects from. Unfortunately, most of the rural country has zero tolerance from ANY gun restrictions and honestly believes ANY new law a step to a complete ban of all guns.

It is always good to maintain a healthy distrust of govt

but actually living in a rural state i can tell thats a lazy cartoon of a take. There are vocal extremes on both side for sure and people use them to dismiss opposing views, even moderate ones

On 7/10/2022 at 9:53 PM, eaglegenius said:

Maybe not. But they could probably make someone who sells a gun privately, if it's been previously registered to them, criminally and/or civilly liable
for any criminal damage done by the subsequent buyer.

IMHO the first step in "gun violence control" should be universal automatic added on prison time for anyone convicted of using a gun in the commission
of any crime. 5, 10 or 25 year mandatory non-reducible "bonus time" depending on the severity of the crime. And there's no reason not to include machetes,
knives or other deadly weapons in the law.

 

Why is committing a crime worse if you do it with a gun? That makes no sense. If I kill someone, it doesn’t matter if I did it with a gun, a knife, a baseball bat, or my fists. They’re still dead.

7 hours ago, TEW said:

Why is committing a crime worse if you do it with a gun? That makes no sense. If I kill someone, it doesn’t matter if I did it with a gun, a knife, a baseball bat, or my fists. They’re still dead.

It's always been on the back of my mind that if I ever got into a fight with someone and actually won the fight, that I could be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, just because I have a gun on me. Even if the gun never leaves my waist band. 

That's assanine to me

2 hours ago, BFit said:

It's always been on the back of my mind that if I ever got into a fight with someone and actually won the fight, that I could be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, just because I have a gun on me. Even if the gun never leaves my waist band. 

That's assanine to me

If it makes you feel any better, someone can break into my house and by law I have to try to run away before I can defend myself.

16 hours ago, TEW said:

If it makes you feel any better, someone can break into my house and by law I have to try to run away before I can defend myself.

So everything should work out for you then.

Background checks make sense as long as they stick to things that would ensure safe and responsible gun ownership (criminal record, mental health, frequency of gun purchase, etc).  That being said, we need to stop pretending that the only gun problem we have in this country is deranged white kids shooting up schools with AR-15s.  While it might be the hardest for us to understand and accept, the overwhelming majority of gun related deaths come from suicide and person on person pistol shootings.

The right clearly needs to get serious about making guns harder to get for criminals and those suffering from mental illness, but the left needs to get serious about cracking down on gun crime in the cities.  While we're at it, lets outlaw saying the name or posting the picture of school shooters in the media, post armed police officers in every school and prosecute parents if they did not report socio or psycho pathic behavior in advance of their child shooting up a school.

Sadly, background checks by themselves won't even put a dent in the statistics.  

On 7/11/2022 at 10:54 PM, MidMoFo said:

Second part is probably already being lobbied for by the for profit prison system we already have in place. How’s that working out? 

 

Maybe better than NY's "no cash bail" system?