1 hour ago, nipples said:

Gronk is an injury waiting to happen. And yes I think Brady’s drop off will be so dramatic that he will be holding them back. Just like Peyton fell off a cliff and went from an MVP to a below average QB seemingly overnight. 

That would be the story of the NFL season, IMHO.  Everybody has been predicting that Brady has reached the end and it hasn't happened.  I'm gonna be in the "I'll believe it when I see it"  crowd for now.  If Gronk is hurt and misses a lot of time & Brady is an average QB, Tampa could be a very bad team.  

26 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

That would be the story of the NFL season, IMHO.  Everybody has been predicting that Brady has reached the end and it hasn't happened.  I'm gonna be in the "I'll believe it when I see it"  crowd for now.  If Gronk is hurt and misses a lot of time & Brady is an average QB, Tampa could be a very bad team.  

If you believe the data he is in steep decline.  Was barely a top 15 QB last year.  Maybe he will rebound and Tampa has a reasonable schedule this year but 10 wins feels like a lot.

1 hour ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

That would be the story of the NFL season, IMHO.  Everybody has been predicting that Brady has reached the end and it hasn't happened.  I'm gonna be in the "I'll believe it when I see it"  crowd for now.  If Gronk is hurt and misses a lot of time & Brady is an average QB, Tampa could be a very bad team.  

I feel like he was on a significant decline already last season. Can’t imagine that getting better another year older. 

2 hours ago, nipples said:

Just like Peyton fell off a cliff and went from an MVP to a below average QB seemingly overnight. 

I do have to say when that happened they still won the SB lol.

Under for the Ravens

8 hours ago, nipples said:

Gonna be a lot of surprised people who are currently overhyping the Bucs. Brady was falling off last year, gonna be ugly this season. 

Yeah I don’t think the Bucs are going to be as good as many are projecting and also don’t think the Pats are going to be as bad as many think as well.  It’s still a relatively weak division.  Buffalo is the biggest threat.  

8 hours ago, nipples said:

Gonna be a lot of surprised people who are currently overhyping the Bucs. Brady was falling off last year, gonna be ugly this season. 

Yeah I don’t think the Bucs are going to be as good as many are projecting and also don’t think the Pats are going to be as bad as many think as well.  It’s still a relatively weak division.  Buffalo is the biggest threat.  

On 5/19/2020 at 7:55 AM, eagle45 said:

Chiefs are the safest bet on that list.  

The only way they don't hit 12 wins is if the season is shortened.

I like the under with the rams

9 hours ago, nipples said:

Gonna be a lot of surprised people who are currently overhyping the Bucs. Brady was falling off last year, gonna be ugly this season. 

Yeah I don’t think the Bucs are going to be as good as many are projecting and also don’t think the Pats are going to be as bad as many think as well.  It’s still a relatively weak division.  Buffalo is the biggest threat.  

Before the whole Covid crap I projected 7 or 8 wins. Birds now get a slight bump from me only because they are the only team without a new HC. Still taking the under though. Hope Im wrong of course. Will all depend on Doug and if he changes and gives up responsibility to his offensive staff like he did in 2017

8 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Season-long win totals and divisional-title wagers will void and money will be refunded if the season is shortened. 

Then they'll post new win totals based on the new schedule. 

Makes sense 

Easy Money Fellas. I'll be sure to make that trip. Noyce

So same as Cowturds, fair enough.

Sensible bet on us is probably under, but on the other hand this is probably one season where Doug's soft pedal approach to pre season doesn't bite us in the a**.

I'd definitely be tempted to take the over on Miami at 6.5, they won five last year after starting 0-7 and were clearly improving at seasons end, they apparently changed OC because their scheme was overly complicated, definitely worth a punt on the over.

12 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Before the whole Covid crap I projected 7 or 8 wins. Birds now get a slight bump from me only because they are the only team without a new HC. Still taking the under though. Hope Im wrong of course. Will all depend on Doug and if he changes and gives up responsibility to his offensive staff like he did in 2017

You think they win fewer games than last year? Why? I see a better group of WRs, better CB play, better DLine. 

6 hours ago, nipples said:

You think they win fewer games than last year? Why? I see a better group of WRs, better CB play, better DLine. 

We were in the worse div in the league, 2 teams in the top 5 in the draft. We only made the playoffs in 2018 and won the div in 2019 due to pure luck. Cowboys fell apart. With new coaching in all teams and a good off season by all those teams, they will improve as well. I dont see us having the super easy div this year. Again though, if Doug changes his ways back to 2017 on trusting his staff and giving up responsibilities, that number can be higher. 

31 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

We were in the worse div in the league, 2 teams in the top 5 in the draft. We only made the playoffs in 2018 and won the div in 2019 due to pure luck. Cowboys fell apart. With new coaching in all teams and a good off season by all those teams, they will improve as well. I dont see us having the super easy div this year. Again though, if Doug changes his ways back to 2017 on trusting his staff and giving up responsibilities, that number can be higher. 

How exactly did the Giants get much better this offseason? I don’t think they did much to improve. Same with the Skins. And all three division opponents have new head coaches, which is going to hurt them even more with a shortened offseason.  I really don’t think the division will be much better if at all. 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

How exactly did the Giants get much better this offseason? I don’t think they did much to improve. Same with the Skins. And all three division opponents have new head coaches, which is going to hurt them even more with a shortened offseason.  I really don’t think the division will be much better if at all. 

I dont think we have much more of an advantage with not having a new coach. We still have a ton of new coaching staff, new players etc. The players on the other teams will get the playbook now to study and the same amount of time to practice it as us. Our playbook on offense should be completely different so we are in the same boat. The defense is the same but thats also a downfall cause its the most easy defense to plan against since you know whats coming. So I dont see the advantage like some do. The only advantage we have is having the best QB in the div. 

We barely made it out of both Gmen games, both Redskins games and both Cowboys games. Skin of our teeth on all of them. Our team was not very good last year, mostly coaching hurt us. We got lucky. 

17 hours ago, Runtherock said:

So same as Cowturds, fair enough.

Where you been bro?

Vegas did a good job on these odds. 

On 5/21/2020 at 7:11 PM, Hawkeye said:

Where you been bro?

Head low, powder wet man. Giving the new site a spin ..

On 5/20/2020 at 7:24 PM, SNOORDA said:

I like the under with the rams

I love the under on the Chargers.  8 with a rookie QB?  Check please.  

6 hours ago, b_west3 said:

I love the under on the Chargers.  8 with a rookie QB?  Check please.  

Not sure the rookie starts early in the year. But if he doesn't that means Tyrod starts so yeah I guess the under looks good there.