These are how draft grades should be handed out - a few years after the draft.  Bleacher did a write up for each team.  Here's what the write up had to say about the Eagles:

2018 Draft Class: South Dakota State TE Dallas Goedert (No. 49 overall), Pittsburgh CB Avonte Maddox (No. 125 overall), Florida State DE Josh Sweat (No. 130 overall), TCU OT Matt Pryor (No. 206 overall), OT Jordan Mailata (No. 233 overall)

The Philadelphia Eagles took advantage of their fantastic scouting department and coaching staff to get the most out of their five picks. With only one pick before Day 3, the Eagles walked away with four future starters and another valued backup. This was a home run class.

Tight end Dallas Goedert looks like a star in the making. He hauled in 56 passes for a career-high 830 yards and a 14.8 yards-per-catch average after taking over for Zach Ertz as the Eagles' full-time starter this past season.

Meanwhile, fourth-round picks Avonte Maddox and Josh Sweat have emerged as quality role players. Maddox is a fine slot defender thanks to his tenacious run defense, while Sweat has racked up 17.5 sacks over the last three years and started 13 games this past season.

Both have already been extended as well. Sweat is on a three-year, $40 million deal and Maddox signed a three-year, $22.5 million contract.

But the gem of the entire class was seventh-round tackle Jordan Mailata. The former rugby player has developed into a premier left tackle and signed a four-year, $64 million extension last September. He went from never playing a down of football to a star at one of the most difficult positions in professional sports.

Grade: A+

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10041734-grading-every-nfl-teams-2018-draft-haul

 

6 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This is a major stretch.  I love JM as much as the next guy.  That pick was an A++.  But to call the entire draft an A+ is rather silly.  At the time Goedert was somewhat of an arrogant luxury pick for a team who had bigger holes than back up TE.  DE was a need then and still is.  To applaud Maddox and Sweat because they were re-signed is also silly.  They are starters, sure.  But starters at areas that have been under drafted for years and dare I say, someone needs to play in those spots.  Hardly players that other teams are jealous of.  Pryor was promising, but obviously didn't work out.  B draft.  But because it was the best draft in a stretch of 4 seasons with bad drafts, it stands out.   

To turn a second round pick, two fourths, and a seventh into three good starters and a potential pro bowl caliber LT is an incredible haul. 

17 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

3 good starters?  Goedert is a good starter.  The other two are JAG's.  

Mialata, Goedert, and Maddox are all good starters. Wasn’t Sweat a PB alternate also? For as much as Howie gets killed this was a darn good draft. All of them are still in the league too. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Mialata, Goedert, and Maddox are all good starters. Wasn’t Sweat a PB alternate also? For as much as Howie gets killed this was a darn good draft. All of them are still in the league too. 

Yep, we'd be completely effed without hitting on all those picks and getting four starters out of that draft because it was sandwiched in between two draft trainwrecks in 2017 and 2019.

19 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

3 good starters?  Goedert is a good starter.  The other two are JAG's.  

Josh sweat has 16 starts and 1000 snaps (about a seasons worth) over the last 2 years with 13.5 sacks in that time.
 

For comparison, Micah Parsons had 904 snaps with 13 sacks and is heralded as the second coming.

Joey Bosa’s last 2 double digit sack seasons were 10.5 in 848 snaps and 11 in 836 snaps.

Von Miller’s last all pro season was 13.5 sacks in 932 snaps.

 

I don’t think that dude is a JAG. 

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Josh Sweat is a JAG.  Just because he’s the tallest midget amongst a bad group of DE’s doesn’t make him a good/great DE.  Regardless of how you spin the numbers.  

What do you believe are his faults that make you classify him as not a good DE?

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Josh Sweat is a JAG.  Just because he’s the tallest midget amongst a bad group of DE’s doesn’t make him a good/great DE.  Regardless of how you spin the numbers.  

You're wrong. JAG's don't get 13 million per year contracts. I don't think anyone has said he's a superstar or even great, but he is a good starter. 

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He's ok.  I guess he's good

Yep, he is. He's a solid starter and was a good pick in the 4th round. Way to come around. Better late than never.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

35th in the league would suggest otherwise.  But you're right, his salary is all that matters.  

I just agreed with you that he's good. Seems like you've pivoted back to him being a JAG to keep the argument alive, I guess.

But yeah, never said the salary is all that matters, obviously, but it is one of the best indicators we have of a player's value to a team. Sweat's put up good numbers in a system that's limited his overall snap count. He's been a good player for us, and he'll probably take on a bigger role this year. 

38 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

2021 He was 35th in sacks with 7.5.

2021 He was 41st in sacks with 6.

11th in Salary for DE per spotrac.  The salary is an indication as to how good a player is.  The results are.  I know that it's your position, but I'm addressing that moronic position.  

 

Compared to Derek Barnett, he's great.  Compared to the rest of the league...he's 35th but almost being paid to be top 10.   

 

 

You’re taking the context of why his sack numbers are at that level, calling it me spinning the numbers, then removing all context to say my position is moronic. 
 

He had 13.5 sacks the last 2 years while playing about a half season’s worth of snaps each year. Using as much information as possible to properly define a player’s value is not spin; ignoring it is.

PFF rated him a 76. They’re by no means the gospel of NFL evaluations, but that’s a damn good rating for a JAG.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Take on a bigger role?  Yay, you would hope.  Would be nice for a guy getting paid what he is to have better production than 35th in the league.  Good numbers?  He’s put up JAG numbers.  But compared to the rest of the crap we have at DE, he’s a star.  Someone had to lead the Eagles in sacks last year.  

Did you see the post about snap count? Why would you just look at raw sack numbers when more context is available? He's put up similar numbers to some of the game's best when taking into account total snaps played.

Again, that doesn't mean I think he's on that level, but he's a good, solid starter. He got 13 million a year because of his productivity, age, and potential. He's clearly not a JAG. Snagging a solid starter with potential in the 4th round is a good pick. 

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I meant to say that wasn’t your position and that it was KZ’s moronic position.   It was a typo.  
 

 And as far as spinning the numbers, when you use those numbers to compare him to Parsons, Bosa and Miller, that’s what I meant by spin.  
 

PFF?!  Come on man.  They are a joke and people only use them to support their opinion.   
 

Regarding the snap count.  You think a good/great player would be on the field more? A non JAG would get more snaps.  😂  That’s a joke there.   Maybe JAG is a little harsh, because he definitely isn’t a fringe player.  As far as starters in the NFL go, he’s kinda JAGGY.  Definitely not worth the salary that Lowie gave him.  

and people discredit PFF when that helps support their opinion.
 

I used a hyperbolic analogy to properly display that he may not be an all-pro level player, but he is performing respectably if forced to stand shoulder to should with them.

I believe the Eagles did not know what they had in Sweat in 2020 (as no one did), and that has combined with their over-emphasis on a rotating Dline (which I don’t disagree with) to end up with the snap numbers he’s gotten. Brandon Graham, for instance, hasn’t had even 800 snaps in 7 years despite missing 1 single game in that time frame before 2021. He had only 660 the SB season. It’s not because he’s not worth playing, it’s because we’ve been rotating like a hockey team for years.

Your point about a non-JAG playing more doesn’t necessarily work here as he was viewed as something less than before this stretch. Only now is he recognized as that guy, and we’ll see what he does post-pro bowl. This year he should be in the 650-750 snap range at least. He is the #1 player to be hurt with Barnett returning as I believe Graham will get as many snaps as he can physically handle, which makes DB’s return all the more disappointing. Regardless of which is better, they’ll still give Barnett his unearned snap volume for whatever reason Gannon randomly pulls out of his butt.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 And as far as spinning the numbers, when you use those numbers to compare him to Parsons, Bosa and Miller, that’s what I meant by spin.  

How is comparing raw data of players' snap count to their production "spin." That literally makes no sense.

11 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

and people discredit PFF when that helps support their opinion.
 

I used a hyperbolic analogy to properly display that he may not be an all-pro level player, but he is performing respectably if forced to stand shoulder to should with them.

I believe the Eagles did not know what they had in Sweat in 2020 (as no one did), and that has combined with their over-emphasis on a rotating Dline (which I don’t disagree with) to end up with the snap numbers he’s gotten. Brandon Graham, for instance, hasn’t had even 800 snaps in 7 years despite missing 1 single game in that time frame before 2021. He had only 660 the SB season. It’s not because he’s not worth playing, it’s because we’ve been rotating like a hockey team for years.

Your point about a non-JAG playing more doesn’t necessarily work here as he was viewed as something less than before this stretch. Only now is he recognized as that guy, and we’ll see what he does post-pro bowl. This year he should be in the 650-750 snap range at least. He is the #1 player to be hurt with Barnett returning as I believe Graham will get as many snaps as he can physically handle, which makes DB’s return all the more disappointing. Regardless of which is better, they’ll still give Barnett his unearned snap volume for whatever reason Gannon randomly pulls out of his butt.

Bottom line is if the Eagles let Sweat go another team would absolutely sign him. He’s an NFL player for sure. He’s also fairly young so he can improve as well. Is he elite? No, but one shouldn’t expect elite from a 4th round pick. Sweat was a solid draft selection. 

On 7/14/2022 at 4:27 AM, Procus said:

 

Grade: A+

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10041734-grading-every-nfl-teams-2018-draft-haul

 

Goedert is a unique grade.  He didn't start until he already got a big money extension.  The decision to draft him was part of a move to 12 personnel, which was a miserable failure. I won't hate the player; I'll hate the scheme.  But still, the decision to draft Goedert led to a worse offense short term and an eventual Ertz replacement for $$$ after the cheap rookie deal was already over.  Is that a home run?  Is that even a double?

Sweat is similar, albeit a better value.  He was a situational pass rusher for the entirety of his rookie deal.  Then he got $$$ and became a starter.  

Maddox has been an up and down nickel CB.  That's fine I suppose.

And Mailata, home run of home runs, also didn't produce anything until his big money extension.

Hats off for the multiples of good players, but you have to acknowledge the unique fault that they got very little out of this class on their rookie deals.

Big picture: they won a SB, immediately followed it up with an "A+" draft...and since have fired a coach and done a lot of losing.  So the delayed productivity of that draft class has taken its toll...

11 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Goedert is a unique grade.  He didn't start until he already got a big money extension.  The decision to draft him was part of a move to 12 personnel, which was a miserable failure. I won't hate the player; I'll hate the scheme.  But still, the decision to draft Goedert led to a worse offense short term and an eventual Ertz replacement for $$$ after the cheap rookie deal was already over.  Is that a home run?  Is that even a double?

Sweat is similar, albeit a better value.  He was a situational pass rusher for the entirety of his rookie deal.  Then he got $$$ and became a starter.  

Maddox has been an up and down nickel CB.  That's fine I suppose.

And Mailata, home run of home runs, also didn't produce anything until his big money extension.

Hats off for the multiples of good players, but you have to acknowledge the unique fault that they got very little out of this class on their rookie deals.

Big picture: they won a SB, immediately followed it up with an "A+" draft...and since have fired a coach and done a lot of losing.  So the delayed productivity of that draft class has taken its toll...

And it was still a helluva good draft.

PS. Goedert was good from day one.

 

Negledelphians gonna Negledephia!

This draft is about as much of a home run as it can possibly be.

17 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Goedert is a unique grade.  He didn't start until he already got a big money extension.  The decision to draft him was part of a move to 12 personnel, which was a miserable failure. I won't hate the player; I'll hate the scheme.  But still, the decision to draft Goedert led to a worse offense short term and an eventual Ertz replacement for $$$ after the cheap rookie deal was already over.  Is that a home run?  Is that even a double?

Sweat is similar, albeit a better value.  He was a situational pass rusher for the entirety of his rookie deal.  Then he got $$$ and became a starter.  

Maddox has been an up and down nickel CB.  That's fine I suppose.

And Mailata, home run of home runs, also didn't produce anything until his big money extension.

Hats off for the multiples of good players, but you have to acknowledge the unique fault that they got very little out of this class on their rookie deals.

Big picture: they won a SB, immediately followed it up with an "A+" draft...and since have fired a coach and done a lot of losing.  So the delayed productivity of that draft class has taken its toll...

I can’t criticize Howie for this draft, but everything he did outside of the draft during this time frame was putrid. The Alshon signing, Malik Jackson, Peters, Brandon Brooks, and of course the miscalculation on Wentz.  Doug P also proved to be one of the worst coaches I’ve ever seen at utilizing a player’s strengths after that SB too.  You can argue that we didn’t land any blue chip talent, but I’m much higher on Goedert than most.  For recouping a 2nd the following year, this draft was a home run in my opinion.  It’s not Goedert’s fault he’s underutilized by the RB pretending to play QB. 

On 7/28/2022 at 9:10 AM, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This is a major stretch.  I love JM as much as the next guy.  That pick was an A++.  But to call the entire draft an A+ is rather silly.  At the time Goedert was somewhat of an arrogant luxury pick for a team who had bigger holes than back up TE.  DE was a need then and still is.  To applaud Maddox and Sweat because they were re-signed is also silly.  They are starters, sure.  But starters at areas that have been under drafted for years and dare I say, someone needs to play in those spots.  Hardly players that other teams are jealous of.  Pryor was promising, but obviously didn't work out.  B draft.  But because it was the best draft in a stretch of 4 seasons with bad drafts, it stands out.   

Go look at the average draft class of an NFL team.  If two or three players stick for a couple of years, it's usually deemed a good draft.  Every single player drafted in 2018 is still in the NFL.  Even Matt Pryor, a 6th round pick who is positioned to be the starting LT for the Colts.  It was a great draft.

51 minutes ago, Procus said:

Go look at the average draft class of an NFL team.  If two or three players stick for a couple of years, it's usually deemed a good draft.  Every single player drafted in 2018 is still in the NFL.  Even Matt Pryor, a 6th round pick who is positioned to be the starting LT for the Colts.  It was a great draft.

This guy gets it. Not only that, but they also got an extra second round pick the following year, which I believed also turned into a starter (Miles Sanders).