August 2, 20223 yr Author So, still nothing the house added to the bill to make the GOP senators that voted for it, vote against later? How very not shocking.
August 2, 20223 yr How very not shocking the lack of understanding of details. Democrats always play politics. The only way this deal goes through is for the Democrat-run senate to get an extra 400B before the midterms. Republicans were ready at the table, but the democrats only care about the election. And like clockwork, several pages of people still falling for the Dem antics.
August 3, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, matchew88 said: How very not shocking the lack of understanding of details. Democrats always play politics. The only way this deal goes through is for the Democrat-run senate to get an extra 400B before the midterms. Republicans were ready at the table, but the democrats only care about the election. And like clockwork, several pages of people still falling for the Dem antics. Wait, so you are agreeing that the Republican leaders withheld funding for veterans they already agreed to simply due to the democrats agreeing on a deal that only they had to agree on? Say it isnt so??? Newsflash, in the end Manchin is still a Dem, and they have the votes.
August 3, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, matchew88 said: How very not shocking the lack of understanding of details. Democrats always play politics. The only way this deal goes through is for the Democrat-run senate to get an extra 400B before the midterms. Republicans were ready at the table, but the democrats only care about the election. And like clockwork, several pages of people still falling for the Dem antics. It’s not an extra $400B. It’s a reclassification of that $400B and the Republicans already voted in favor of that reclassification in June. This is Republicans throwing a hissy fit and F’ing with funding for vets because they don’t like a completely separate bill. Looks like you fell for their BS, but what else is new, Mr Stop the Steal.
August 3, 20223 yr And just like that, the Pact act passes 86-11. The same bill senate republicans voted for, and then against, they’ve now come back to voting for again. No changes to the bill. gee, it’s almost as if senate republicans were just playing partisan hack politics with the bill, like everyone who was looking at this objectively said.
August 3, 20223 yr Reclassification meaning re-allocation. To be discretionary. And after what Machin did earlier this week, who would trust the Democrats? We'll see what the 400B actually goes towards and re-visit.
August 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, matchew88 said: How very not shocking the lack of understanding of details. Democrats always play politics. The only way this deal goes through is for the Democrat-run senate to get an extra 400B before the midterms. Republicans were ready at the table, but the democrats only care about the election. And like clockwork, several pages of people still falling for the Dem antics. Weren't you the idiot pushing that Dinesh D'Souza conspiracy video about stolen votes? Yeah...maybe sit down and let the adults talk buddy.
August 3, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: And just like that, the Pact act passes 86-11. The same bill senate republicans voted for, and then against, they’ve now come back to voting for again. No changes to the bill. One thing you can always, always count on is the GOP getting their base lathered up in outrage with lies and then hanging then hanging them out to dry the next second. They'll never learn. They always fall for it. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
August 3, 20223 yr Aw shucks, trumpbots take it square in the face yet again. Been a really rough few days for them.
August 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: Weren't you the idiot pushing that Dinesh D'Souza conspiracy video about stolen votes? Yeah...maybe sit down and let the adults talk buddy. Yeah, he is that same retarded, stupid, useless, idiot. Same guy.
August 3, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Just gave the Jack's twitter profile a quick once over... it's crickets over there. He got @Kz! all sauced up and then just left him holding the bag. Big sadge.
August 3, 20223 yr Author The GOP then votes for the bill they voted for, then against, but damn the Dems for playing politics. The verbal dance of the morons is in full swing.
August 3, 20223 yr I haven’t read this bill or any of the amendments but I’ve read spending and budget allocation bills in the past. In the bills that I’ve read there are typically restrictions and limitations on what types of things the funding can be used for. Just based on the definitions of mandatory vs discretionary, it is not clear to me how changing funding from discretionary to mandatory would make and difference in what the money can be spent on, it sounds like it would actually guarantee that that money was spent instead of allowing to sit in the budget unused. What am I missing here?
August 3, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Imp81318 said: I haven’t read this bill or any of the amendments but I’ve read spending and budget allocation bills in the past. In the bills that I’ve read there are typically restrictions and limitations on what types of things the funding can be used for. Just based on the definitions of mandatory vs discretionary, it is not clear to me how changing funding from discretionary to mandatory would make and difference in what the money can be spent on, it sounds like it would actually guarantee that that money was spent instead of allowing to sit in the budget unused. What am I missing here? There are very strict limitations on what the money in the bill can be used on and it goes completely to the vets. From my understanding the "concern" is that if the VA were to shift some of it's existing spending already dedicated to these burn pit vets into this new mandatory fund (and it were approved), the amount shifted could open up additional discretionary spending subject to the appropriations process. So hardly a $400 billion slush fund as it's being described.
August 3, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: There are very strict limitations on what the money in the bill can be used on and it goes completely to the vets. From my understanding the "concern" is that if the VA were to shift some of it's existing spending already dedicated to these burn pit vets into this new mandatory fund (and it were approved), the amount shifted could open up additional discretionary spending subject to the appropriations process. So hardly a $400 billion slush fund as it's being described. Ok, so the concern is that this bill could be used to fund existing programs that fit the criteria and the funding currently being used on those programs could be re-allocated to fund other programs not related to vets? Couldn’t that happen whether the funding was discretionary or mandatory?
August 3, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, matchew88 said: Reclassification meaning re-allocation. To be discretionary. And after what Machin did earlier this week, who would trust the Democrats? We'll see what the 400B actually goes towards and re-visit. We already know what it will go to because it’s specifically written in the law as to what it will go to.
August 3, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, Imp81318 said: Ok, so the concern is that this bill could be used to fund existing programs that fit the criteria and the funding currently being used on those programs could be re-allocated to fund other programs not related to vets? Couldn’t that happen whether the funding was discretionary or mandatory? I'm not sure if they'd be able to shift the existing spending to discretionary spending or not honestly. The CBO score increased when it was shifted to mandatory spending awhile ago so I'd guess that's the case? They'd also have to negotiate and approve the funding yearly so I guess they could adjust the funds too?
August 3, 20223 yr Author Just put another yellow 'support the troops' magnet on your SUV. No need to actually SERVE veterans injured in the line of duty. Scratch that, POISONED in the line of duty by a command that thinks individual soldiers have no real value, especially after you break them.
August 3, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, mayanh8 said: Just gave the Jack's twitter profile a quick once over... it's crickets over there. He got @Kz! all sauced up and then just left him holding the bag. Big sadge. I'm getting midwit ishlibs to read Jack Posobeic's twitter feed. Yeah, you could say I'm winning.
August 3, 20223 yr "i was wrong and people are laughing at me after I was once again demonstrably retarded. Yeah, you could say I'm winning."
Create an account or sign in to comment