1 hour ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

Fact is that Hurts was always viewed as a developmental QB. He did okay last year and at times showed some real growth. He sucked in the playoff game and that has led to a bunch of smug Wentz lovers/Hurts haters ruling the board over the past 6 months. 

Various people are or were claiming that the Eagles would be better off with Minshew or Strong. That thread has gone very quiet now as it’s become pretty clear from pretty much every reporter that Hurts is throwing the ball much better than either of them. And making the throws that certain people are claiming he can’t make.

Don’t get me wrong, he has a lot to prove and I’m still not convinced he’s the guy going forward. He needs to take a fairly substantial leap this year. But he is a much better QB than a lot of the board give him credit for. He has a chance.

He has a good opportunity in what should be a loaded team. Just a shame more people can’t get behind him.
 

 

Issue with hurts is with all the great coaches he has had and opportunity each offseason his first practices seem to be exactly the same as always

Ok, bad, bad, ok, above average 

And then we hear about his above average day as the reason we should have hope when it feels you ignore all the ish that happened before that one performance. He still only went for 58% and a touchdown. kudos for not turning the ball over I guess 

Im just wondering what peoples expectations of Hurts ceiling is.

Is it like a Lamar Jackson? Or Marcus Mariota? Maybe a Cam Newton?

None of those QBs have won a superbowl.

I think those are the most realistic comparisons. Thinking Hurts can be the next Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen is fantasy.

So what exactly is our plan to win a SB with Hurts? Do we have to build a super team around him?

1 hour ago, opa-opa said:

Im just wondering what peoples expectations of Hurts ceiling is.

Is it like a Lamar Jackson? Or Marcus Mariota? Maybe a Cam Newton?

None of those QBs have won a superbowl.

I think those are the most realistic comparisons. Thinking Hurts can be the next Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen is fantasy.

So what exactly is our plan to win a SB with Hurts? Do we have to build a super team around him?

All those QBs have won playoff games. We’ll see… I don’t like Hurts but he’s been better than I anticipated he would be (that’s not saying much).

My hunch says this team is a game or two better with Minshew. 

Hurts is a poor man’s McNabb. Case keenum combined with Taysom Hill. He’ll have a 10 year career mostly as a back up. 

13 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

Issue with hurts is with all the great coaches he has had and opportunity each offseason his first practices seem to be exactly the same as always

Ok, bad, bad, ok, above average 

And then we hear about his above average day as the reason we should have hope when it feels you ignore all the ish that happened before that one performance. He still only went for 58% and a touchdown. kudos for not turning the ball over I guess 

There have been several reports over the years that Nick Foles was a terrible practice player. Well doesn’t really matter since he’s the only quarterback to ever win a Super a bowl in Philly right? Yeah overall none of this stuff matters. Winning is what matters. If Jalen is not winning football games I care. Don’t care if Minshew goes out there and completes 80% of his passes every week and the Eagles lose. It’s just Sam Bradford all over again. 

10 hours ago, opa-opa said:

Im just wondering what peoples expectations of Hurts ceiling is.

Is it like a Lamar Jackson? Or Marcus Mariota? Maybe a Cam Newton?

None of those QBs have won a superbowl.

I think those are the most realistic comparisons. Thinking Hurts can be the next Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen is fantasy.

So what exactly is our plan to win a SB with Hurts? Do we have to build a super team around him?

Aaron Rodgers has one Super Bowl and has kind of been subpar in the playoffs since then. He has the same amount of rings as Nick Foles. Also people around here still fawn over Wentz and he’s has as many playoff appearances as Hurts in far more NFL career time. People are making too many expectations for Hurts far too early in his career. Not matter what any of us think it’s irrelevant, because it’s what the Eagles think. Right now he’s their guy. 

10 hours ago, opa-opa said:

Im just wondering what peoples expectations of Hurts ceiling is.

Is it like a Lamar Jackson? Or Marcus Mariota? Maybe a Cam Newton?

None of those QBs have won a superbowl.

I think those are the most realistic comparisons. Thinking Hurts can be the next Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen is fantasy.

So what exactly is our plan to win a SB with Hurts? Do we have to build a super team around him?

Tyrod Taylor.  Maybe RG3.

15 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Various people are or were claiming that the Eagles would be better off with Minshew or Strong. That thread has gone very quiet now as it’s become pretty clear from pretty much every reporter that Hurts is throwing the ball much better than either of them. And making the throws that certain people are claiming he can’t make.

Where are those articles?  I really want to read about how the QBs are doing, but Hurts is the focus of every article (not surprising considering his role).  I haven't even seen Strong mentioned (not surprising considering his role).  I haven't seen anything comparing their performances other than a Minshew interception a few days ago.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

There have been several reports over the years that Nick Foles was a terrible practice player.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I’m 100% sure you didn’t answer my question and I didn’t even go look so I’ll ask you again. Was Howie right to get rid of a quarterback that is being paid over 20 mil a year to throw two conservative picks in practice? Bonus question: Will your beanbagging Buddy answer before you do? 

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m 100% sure you didn’t answer my question and I didn’t even go look so I’ll ask you again. Was Howie right to get rid of a quarterback that is being paid over 20 mil a year to throw two conservative picks in practice? Bonus question: Will your beanbagging Buddy answer before you do? 

That is not the topic of this thread.  As I said in the other topic, Wentz has been gone for 500+ days, no one cares about him.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

That is not the topic of this thread.  As I said in the other topic, Wentz has been gone for 500+ days, no one cares about him.

You no answer question. I’m the one "obsessed” with him, but YOU KNOW HOW LONG HE”S BEEN HONE. 😂🤣😂 This wasn’t a question about your god. It was about Howie, but I know in you pathetic worshipping mind you couldn’t bring yourself to even slight your god. I do find it ironic that you were the first one to immediately jump all over my post, but you don’t care. 🙄

I’ll add it’s also funny how the beanbagger sure didn’t seem to mind me mentioning Foles or Sam Bradford here. I wonder why? 

Hey beanbagger I know you don’t have the stones to answer my question so I’ll ask you one that coincides with this thread. Is a big arm quarterback who can’t hit the side of a bus more important than winning football games? 

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m the one "obsessed” with him, but YOU KNOW HOW LONG HE”S BEEN HONE

Yes.  When we discussed this yesterday, I googled the day of his trade, then I googled how many days from that date to the current day.

1.  This is not that topic, in this topic, you should address your false statement about Nick Foles.

2.  I addressed your question in the other thread, you keep brining up Wentz in relationship to Hurts.  Wentz is irrelevant to Hurts.  He is on his second team since he left.

 

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yes.  When we discussed this yesterday, I googled the day of his trade, then I googled how many days from that date to the current day.

1.  This is not that topic, in this topic, you should address your false statement about Nick Foles.

2.  I addressed your question in the other thread, you keep brining up Wentz in relationship to Hurts.  Wentz is irrelevant to Hurts.  He is on his second team since he left.

 

 

So now you believe Howie was right. When did you come to that decision? Was it before or after you moped about it for all that time? Tell me then. Why was Howie right? 

57 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Where are those articles?  I really want to read about how the QBs are doing, but Hurts is the focus of every article (not surprising considering his role).  I haven't even seen Strong mentioned (not surprising considering his role).  I haven't seen anything comparing their performances other than a Minshew interception a few days ago.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/stock-stock-down-after-first-week-eagles-training-camp-miles-sanders-brandon-graham/
 

There is a similar stock article on CSN Philly. Minshew has just been referenced as throwing badly in most of the daily recap articles.

Hopefully Strong will improve with time and as we head to the pre-season. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

So now you believe Howie was right. When did you come to that decision? Was it before or after you moped about it for all that time? Tell me then. Why was Howie right? 

I keep telling you that topic is not in this thread.  

In this thread you stated Nick Foles is a terrible practice player, in this thread, address that topic.

Why do you have to turn every thread into Carson Wentz, the guy who is on his second team since he left ( checks post above ) 532 days ago.

If you want to direct me to the appropriate thread for the other topic that would be great.

4 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/stock-stock-down-after-first-week-eagles-training-camp-miles-sanders-brandon-graham/
 

There is a similar stock article on CSN Philly. Minshew has just been referenced as throwing badly in most of the daily recap articles.

Hopefully Strong will improve with time and as we head to the pre-season. 

Heard on the radio the other day Strong had a deep pass he threw 5-10 off target and out of bounds. I’ve also read an article where this guy basically drove between NE and DC and he basically wrote every quarterback and offense was struggling to include the Commander most of these dopes were crying for over a year now. Oops excuse me 532 days and counting. 😂🤣😂

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I keep telling you that topic is not in this thread.  

In this thread you stated Nick Foles is a terrible practice player, in this thread, address that topic.

Why do you have to turn every thread into Carson Wentz, the guy who is on his second team since he left ( checks post above ) 532 days ago.

If you want to direct me to the appropriate thread for the other topic that would be great.

Funny I’ve written negative comments about many players, but only one seems to ruffle your feathers. Why is that? And yes there were times when people were critical of Nick’s practices. He’s an ex Eagle. Why aren’t you as outraged as you seem to be about the current Commander? I’ll add I also haven’t seen you outraged about your Wentz beanbagging goon squad hijack every thread and make it about Hurts even when the person specifically asked it not to be. Fraud much?

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Funny I’ve written negative comments about many players, but only one seems to ruffle your feathers. Why is that?

1..And yes there were times when people were critical of Nick’s practices. He’s an ex Eagle.

2..Why aren’t you as outraged as you seem to be about the current Commander?

3..I’ll add I also haven’t seen you outraged about your Wentz beanbagging goon squad hijack every thread and make it about Hurts even when the person specifically asked it not to be. Fraud much?

1..Nick may have had some bad practices, but he is not a bad practice player, there is a difference.  He put the work in, some days he was just off, there is a difference.

2..I am not outraged by the current Commander, I keep pointing out he is gone, on his second team since he left, and has absolutely nothing to do with Jalen Hurts.

3..Hurts is the Eagles starting QB, he is the #1 topic of discussion ( well except for you, Wentz is still your #1 topic.

3 hours ago, downundermike said:

1..Nick may have had some bad practices, but he is not a bad practice player, there is a difference.  He put the work in, some days he was just off, there is a difference.

2..I am not outraged by the current Commander, I keep pointing out he is gone, on his second team since he left, and has absolutely nothing to do with Jalen Hurts.

3..Hurts is the Eagles starting QB, he is the #1 topic of discussion ( well except for you, Wentz is still your #1 topic.

Where was your "he’s gone” comments last year when Wentz would have a good game and Hurts wouldn’t. Actually when you’re buddy was over there hoping he would win MVP where was your Wentz is gone comments? And Hurts also has "put in work” even if you choose not to acknowledge, because he replaced the Commander. You want me to take you seriously then man up and admit the truth.

25 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Where was your "he’s gone” comments last year when Wentz would have a good game and Hurts wouldn’t. Actually when you’re buddy was over there hoping he would win MVP where was your Wentz is gone comments? And Hurts also has "put in work” even if you choose not to acknowledge, because he replaced the Commander. You want me to take you seriously then man up and admit the truth.

The only truth is you have a psychotic fascination with Wentz, and can not stop bringing him up.  

How Jalen Hurts plays this year has nothing to do with Carson Wentz.  Hurts is the Eagles QB, and will be the #1 topic of discussion this year.

And I don't care how much work he has put in, need to see the results of that work on the field.  The fact that there is tweets every day that he takes off running in 7v7 is not a good sign.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The only truth is you have a psychotic fascination with Wentz, and can not stop bringing him up.  

How Jalen Hurts plays this year has nothing to do with Carson Wentz.  Hurts is the Eagles QB, and will be the #1 topic of discussion this year.

And I don't care how much work he has put in, need to see the results of that work on the field.  The fact that there is tweets every day that he takes off running in 7v7 is not a good sign.

He tweets every day? Two days ago after practice he was "putting in work” with A.J. Brown so he’s doing the exact same thing you just praised Foles for doing. So what’s so different? Why is Foles so called work valid, but Jalen’s isn’t? Because he sends out a tweet? Your god probably went duck hunting after practice but that’s okay right? The point isn’t about your god. It’s about how you friggin hypocrites gave that dude a pass for years, but trash Hurts every chance you get. Perhaps if you weren’t so focused on defending the Commander’s honor like he was your woman then you would realize that. 

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

He tweets every day? Two days ago after practice he was "putting in work” with A.J. Brown so he’s doing the exact same thing you just praised Foles for doing. So what’s so different? Why is Foles so called work valid, but Jalen’s isn’t? Because he sends out a tweet? Your god probably went duck hunting after practice but that’s okay right? The point isn’t about your god. It’s about how you friggin hypocrites gave that dude a pass for years, but trash Hurts every chance you get. Perhaps if you weren’t so focused on defending the Commander’s honor like he was your woman then you would realize that. 

Sometimes I wonder about your reading comprehension.  I said

15 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And I don't care how much work he has put in, need to see the results of that work on the field.  The fact that there is tweets every day that he takes off running in 7v7 is not a good sign.

I did not say Hurts tweets.  There are tweets ( from beat writers ) that he is taking off running in 7v7 drills.  That means all his work has been for nothing, as he resorts to running in a drill with no pass rush.

Hurts is the QB, and he needs to start being a QB and stop being a RB.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sometimes I wonder about your reading comprehension.  I said

I did not say Hurts tweets.  There are tweets ( from beat writers ) that he is taking off running in 7v7 drills.  That means all his work has been for nothing, as he resorts to running in a drill with no pass rush.

Hurts is the QB, and he needs to start being a QB and stop being a RB.

I’ve read an article where every quarterback on the east coast right now has struggled from Boston to DC and Hurts hasn’t looked the worst out the bunch despite being paid less than all of them. Oh and please this whole Foles putting in work talk is nonsense. I’m a huge fan, but let’s be honest. The guy hasn’t once nailed down a starting job his entire career. I don’t care about who tweets. I care about what happens in games. I’ll worry about Hurts when that time comes, but the bottom line is even before you knew what has been happening from some tweets in hour practices you heard stories about Jalen working. No praise from you though. Why would you? You hate him, because he replaced your god.