Rob331 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 OK - bear with me. You are a player who knows he isn't going to make the team and will be an early cut You get a mystery injury that isn't readily verified medically You get waived/injured No one picks you up and you revert to your original team Your original team has the choice of an injury settlement or putting you on injured reserve. Either way you make money you wouldn't have if you were just plain cut An injury settlement get you more bucks and a chance to be picked up by another team Going to IR gets you a full year salary. I might be a cynic, but I somehow think Mayden, Moorehead, and Lenoir all benefited by having fairly dubious injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinFldEBUpper Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Who says the injuries are dubious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob331 Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: Who says the injuries are dubious? Well they came out of nowhere. They are all "soft tissue" which are harder to verify. They all popped up in the week before cuts started. They all happened to guys who are unlikely to be picked up by other teams. Maybe that isn't dubious to you, and I respect that, but to me it is. Note, in the title of the post I admittd that I might be a bit too cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonblood Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 If there is a system, you can bet people will find a way to "play it." 1. I'm not saying they are playing it... 2. See my original statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, Rob331 said: I might be a cynic, but I somehow think Mayden, Moorehead, and Lenoir all benefited by having fairly dubious injuries. Mayden and Lenoir played 31 and 32 snaps in the pre season game, how do you know they were not injured then ?? Moreland suffered an ankle injury in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Who really cares? Are we really going to criticize a team for putting a player on injured reserve - who (most likely) can barely afford rent after sacrificing his entire life (playing a sport) for an opportunity to make an NFL roster - so the guy can eat & feed his family this year and have another opportunity next year to make the team? Seriously? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Rob331 said: Note, in the title of the post I admittd that I might be a bit too cynical. You got the right spirit, namely, ."question everything!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opa-opa Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkGreen Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Whatever the case, it's difficult to find out details about players who turn out to be camp bodies. Reporters probably won't ask, and teams won't bother announcing. Wikipedia pages get deleted if they had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Rob331 said: OK - bear with me. You are a player who knows he isn't going to make the team and will be an early cut You get a mystery injury that isn't readily verified medically You get waived/injured No one picks you up and you revert to your original team Your original team has the choice of an injury settlement or putting you on injured reserve. Either way you make money you wouldn't have if you were just plain cut An injury settlement get you more bucks and a chance to be picked up by another team Going to IR gets you a full year salary. I might be a cynic, but I somehow think Mayden, Moorehead, and Lenoir all benefited by having fairly dubious injuries. Go participate in a NFL camp with hitting and see if you still think the same thing. It's a brutal sport that takes years off of players' lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman#12 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 What is a mystery injury? If these guys get injured, they're immediately checked out by trainers and doctors. No team is going to claim an "injured" player without his injury being medically verified. And why would a team offer an injury settlement to an unverified injury? This whole scenario makes no sense.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweedlebug Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Wouldn't a player be stupid not to do something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Injury settlements cut both ways. Teams use them to lower the cap hit on marginal players. Making or saving money is the sole motivation of the NFL. Injury settlements benefit the teams as much if not more as the players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 4:24 PM, EagleVA said: You got the right spirit, namely, ."question everything!!" It’s not your money, nor is it your rules so why do you even bother to care about a bunch of guys who weren’t making the team anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBW Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 12:04 PM, Rob331 said: OK - bear with me. You are a player who knows he isn't going to make the team and will be an early cut You get a mystery injury that isn't readily verified medically You get waived/injured No one picks you up and you revert to your original team Your original team has the choice of an injury settlement or putting you on injured reserve. Either way you make money you wouldn't have if you were just plain cut An injury settlement get you more bucks and a chance to be picked up by another team Going to IR gets you a full year salary. I might be a cynic, but I somehow think Mayden, Moorehead, and Lenoir all benefited by having fairly dubious injuries. On 8/17/2022 at 4:24 PM, EagleVA said: You got the right spirit, namely, ."question everything!!" 🤣 maybe they got hurt when the gravity generator faulted for a split second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwinavega Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 7:54 PM, Ace Nova said: Who really cares? Are we really going to criticize a team for putting a player on injured reserve - who (most likely) can barely afford rent after sacrificing his entire life (playing a sport) for an opportunity to make an NFL roster - so the guy can eat & feed his family this year and have another opportunity next year to make the team? Seriously? Exactly this. Everything in the NFL - everything - is a business decision. The players have as much right to make those decisions as any league owner, manager, coach, whatever. You think franchises in the league care about the players on, or below, the bubble? Hell no - they are dispensible, and they know it. These men sacrifice so much, for so long, I say let them get their bag while they can. It cuts both ways. More power to their elbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUEagle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, downundermike said: The last one is true You’re funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB52 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 There is a famous about the time Koy Detmer told his brother he was getting "injured” in the next rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob331 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 1:03 PM, downundermike said: Mayden and Lenoir played 31 and 32 snaps in the pre season game, how do you know they were not injured then ?? Moreland suffered an ankle injury in camp. DUM - what's your point? I think there is a pollibility there is a scam - are yousaying you don't or are you just being a smart a** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob331 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 10:23 PM, Procus said: Go participate in a NFL camp with hitting and see if you still think the same thing. It's a brutal sport that takes years off of players' lives. I get it. But I still believe there is a possible scam going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rob331 said: DUM - what's your point? I think there is a pollibility there is a scam - are yousaying you don't or are you just being a smart a** I think you should take your tinfoil hat off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob331 Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 22 hours ago, downundermike said: I think you should take your tinfoil hat off. Dum d Dumdum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglePhan1986 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Maybe. I just don’t care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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