Portyansky Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 Any word if starters are playing in Clev? If so how much?
Guest Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Portyansky said: Any word if starters are playing in Clev? If so how much? No word yet, but probably 1 series if at all.
FranklinFldEBUpper Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Portyansky said: Any word if starters are playing in Clev? If so how much? Based on the way that Sirianni smirked when asked the question, I would say it's obvious that the starters won't be playing. I'm okay with that. 1
time2rock Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 8 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: Based on the way that Sirianni smirked when asked the question, I would say it's obvious that the starters won't be playing. I'm okay with that. Agreed. Starters looked fine last week against NY. The backups ... not so much. They need all the reps they can get to help figure out how to sort out the DC as we approach final cuts. 2
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, time2rock said: Agreed. Starters looked fine last week against NY. The backups ... not so much. They need all the reps they can get to help figure out how to sort out the DC as we approach final cuts. Exactly, with less preseason games they need to figure out the depth. It's a waste to keep trotting the starters out there in meaningless games. They get plenty of reps in joint practices for the starters to get on the same page on offense. 1
ThinkGreen Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 This could be brutal to watch. No rhythm, missed assignments, and vanilla plays. Anything but would be a surprise.
The Blackfish Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 Has anyone seen if the Browns starting CB’s Newsome and Ward played at all during the joint practices?
Guest Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Blackfish said: Has anyone seen if the Browns starting CB’s Newsome and Ward played at all during the joint practices? As far as I know neither practiced
Hawkeye Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 We’ve seen the last of the starters until week 1. They’ll get their work during the joint practice sessions with the Dolphins late next week then it’s on to Detroit. 1
kiwinavega Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 I hope they don't, unless there are players who really need the reps - I wouldn't mind BG getting out there for a series or two, for example, to help his recovery process. Otherwise, no - give the guys fighting for jobs a chance to show what they can do
brkmsn Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 I like the idea of giving the starters a series to continue to prepare for the season routine. 1
LacesOut Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 I don’t know why the starters don’t get a series or two. But I am an idiot so I will trust the Coaches. 1
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 22 hours ago, LacesOut said: I don’t know why the starters don’t get a series or two. But I am an idiot so I will trust the Coaches. I have to say I agree with you. With one less preseason game these days I think it would make sense to give them a series or two this week knowing next week they will not feature at all. I think it could lead to a sloppy start to the year. But hey it worked out in the end last year so I'll trust what the coaches think.
brkmsn Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 The other drawback to not playing starters and removing key backups early is that some of the fringe players don't get an opportunity to play with better players during a game setting. These kinds of games can be hard to watch and harder to evaluate.
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I have to say I agree with you. With one less preseason game these days I think it would make sense to give them a series or two this week knowing next week they will not feature at all. I think it could lead to a sloppy start to the year. But hey it worked out in the end last year so I'll trust what the coaches think. They have the joint practices for the starters to get their timing and chemistry down. They say it over and over again. .. a series or 2 isn't goings to do squat. Most starters say it. Having less games is even more reason to play the back ups, they have limited time to figure out the depth behind the starters 1
brkmsn Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: They have the joint practices for the starters to get their timing and chemistry down. They say it over and over again. .. a series or 2 isn't goings to do squat. Most starters say it. Having less games is even more reason to play the back ups, they have limited time to figure out the depth behind the starters Personally, I prefer the game setting to the control of joint practices. An example of what I was talking about above: Last week, T. Jackson played very well at DE when playing with better, more experienced teammates on defense. Today we didn't play any of our starting defensive linemen along with a few of the 2nd team. Jackson was pretty invisible for the most part. So, there may be more plays for the roster battles, the plays aren't always quality plays because of the lack of experience, chemistry and familiarity out there. There's at least one major breakdown on almost every defensive play. Hopefully, the coaches are getting what they want to see from the tape of each individual player, but it's ugly to watch from our perspective as we try to root for our team's players.
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, brkmsn said: Personally, I prefer the game setting to the control of joint practices. An example of what I was talking about above: Last week, T. Jackson played very well at DE when playing with better, more experienced teammates on defense. Today we didn't play any of our starting defensive linemen along with a few of the 2nd team. Jackson was pretty invisible for the most part. So, their may be more plays for the roster battles, the plays aren't always quality plays because of the lack of experience, chemistry and familiarity out there. There's at least one major breakdown on almost every defensive play. Hopefully, the coaches are getting what they want to see from the tape of each individual player, but it's ugly to watch from our perspective as we try to root for our team's players. I understand what you are saying and agree. Its mostly the fandom in people that want to see the starters for at least a series more than it's about being beneficial for the team. 1
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: They have the joint practices for the starters to get their timing and chemistry down. They say it over and over again. .. a series or 2 isn't goings to do squat. Most starters say it. I don't disagree with you but... I do think it is a valid concern that perhaps the sloppy start to the year last year was due to a lack of reps? And that means practice too. But that could also be because it was a new scheme.
DrPhilly Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I understand what you are saying and agree. Its mostly the fandom in people that want to see the starters for at least a series more than it's about being beneficial for the team. Not really. It is about getting something closer to real live game context. You can’t get that in a practice.
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I don't disagree with you but... I do think it is a valid concern that perhaps the sloppy start to the year last year was due to a lack of reps? And that means practice too. But that could also be because it was a new scheme. You aren't disagreeing or agreeing with me this is what is being said by the coaches and players. Like they said those joint practices are like playing 2 games. How true it is idk but most teams start slow. 6 pass plays isn't going to make that much of an impact a month from now.
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Not really. It is about getting something closer to real live game context. You can’t get that in a practice. They say the joint practices provide that and they get physical in those practices and play 11vs 11 for 2 days against another team. That's their words not mine
DrPhilly Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: They say the joint practices provide that and they get physical in those practices and play 11vs 11 for 2 days against another team. That's their words not mine Ok. Just one example is that the QB can't be hit. That alone is enough to change things significantly. They are far better than regular practices and certainly offer some excellent value but I think it is a stretch to equate them with a game like context. So it ends up being a trade off between seeing more realistic reps from the depths of the roster vs. giving the starters a couple extra series to get ready in terms of who plays in the actual exhibition games.
Bwestbrook36 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Ok. Just one example is that the QB can't be hit. That alone is enough to change things significantly. They are far better than regular practices and certainly offer some excellent value but I think it is a stretch to equate them with a game like context. So it ends up being a trade off between seeing more realistic reps from the depths of the roster vs. giving the starters a couple extra series to get ready in terms of who plays in the actual exhibition games. I get it and understand where you are coming from. I just don't see the benefit of throwing a handful of passes now and then not play again for a month. Seems like an unnecessary risk. 1
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