They completely ignore the run in the first half of most of their games. It doesn’t make sense.  For both aspects of the offense to work you need some balance.  I get it Wash had a lot of time of possession in the first half but I seriously don’t think that would have made a difference in his play calling.  They’ve also abandoned the Hurts run game as well.  That’s one of his strengths.  

Been that way since Nick was hired. He’s a first pass guy. Unless we have a lead late expect to see a lot of it then. 

It wasn't just the players who had a bad game.  The coaches - on BOTH sides of the ball - were terrible.

Well, my guess is that since the Offense had the ball for such a small amount of time in the 1st half, the thought process may have been to attack Washington with the passing game. 

The same thing happen last season for the first few games and then we figured it out and became the number 1 rushing team. Not saying we have to do that again, but you need a balanced offence with pass and run, using both opens up the other.

I really don't get why we do this when its been proven time and again to be the case.

2 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Well, my guess is that since the Offense had the ball for such a small amount of time in the 1st half, the thought process may have been to attack Washington with the passing game. 

thats a good point. Has there been another game this season involving any team thats only had 16 plays in the first half?

1 hour ago, BornGreen said:

They completely ignore the run in the first half of most of their games. It doesn’t make sense.  For both aspects of the offense to work you need some balance.  I get it Wash had a lot of time of possession in the first half but I seriously don’t think that would have made a difference in his play calling.  They’ve also abandoned the Hurts run game as well.  That’s one of his strengths.  

The coaches on this team are stupid. How they even have the record they do amazes me. Gannon and Hey Siri are seriously stupid coaches, who quickly forget what works and what does not. 

It's a little bit like Andy Reid's philosophy:  passes and big plays to score early, then run to kill clock with a lead.  But 2 carries for the RBs in the 1st half is inexcusable.

They need to establish more run plays and get Sanders and Gainwell involved earlier.

Not the greatest game plan last night.

People yammering about how we pass too much in general, I don’t think that’s true. Going into last night, in the red zone, we ran the ball 60% of the time. Third highest in the league.

48 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Well, my guess is that since the Offense had the ball for such a small amount of time in the 1st half, the thought process may have been to attack Washington with the passing game. 

Not running more of a ball control offense (by running the ball) led to the huge discrepancy in TOP.  Ridiculous approach with that game plan last night.  

Aikman pointed out that Miles Sanders has only carried the ball 20 or more times just four times in his career. When they started to give him the ball, they got into a rhythm. They need a more balanced attack.

1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

Well, my guess is that since the Offense had the ball for such a small amount of time in the 1st half, the thought process may have been to attack Washington with the passing game. 

Yeah the Eagles O probably should have ran the ball a little more, but I just can’t criticise them too much. Their first half possessions went touchdown, touchdown, freak interception (which should have been a long completion and then a failed 2 minute drill (which you would expect them to pass)

Hurts is a weapon now, so if they go pass happy at times then fair enough. He’s shredded plenty of teams in the first half this year.

The D needs to be better. Much better.

13 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Yeah the Eagles O probably should have ran the ball a little more, but I just can’t criticise them too much. Their first half possessions went touchdown, touchdown, freak interception (which should have been a long completion and then a failed 2 minute drill (which you would expect them to pass)

Hurts is a weapon now, so if they go pass happy at times then fair enough. He’s shredded plenty of teams in the first half this year.

The D needs to be better. Much better.

You make yourself much easier to defend against when you become one dimensional.  You are helping the opposing defense do exactly what they are trying to do.  One rushing play called on offense in the first half is ridiculous.  

15 hours ago, rrfierce said:

thats a good point. Has there been another game this season involving any team thats only had 16 plays in the first half?

I'd have though running the ball could potentially help maintain drives and therefore possession.

15 hours ago, GroundAttack said:

Been that way since Nick was hired. He’s a first pass guy. Unless we have a lead late expect to see a lot of it then. 

Um… what? 

15 hours ago, NOTW said:

It's a little bit like Andy Reid's philosophy:  passes and big plays to score early, then run to kill clock with a lead.  But 2 carries for the RBs in the 1st half is inexcusable.

They need to establish more run plays and get Sanders and Gainwell involved earlier.

I think Gainwell has been slightly disappointing.

He's scored a few 5 yard TDs but he doesn't seem capable or trusted for a large number of carries or explosive plays

I'm thinking with the commanders front 7 being so good the eagles thought they would have an easier time passing the ball. That being said you still have to try and run the ball so they aren't that one dimensional 

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm thinking with the commanders front 7 being so good the eagles thought they would have an easier time passing the ball. That being said you still have to try and run the ball so they aren't that one dimensional 

They have the 16th ranked rushing defense (vs 19th ranked passing defense).  It doesn't seem as though there would be any benefit in going heavy one way or the other.  

7 minutes ago, time2rock said:

They have the 16th ranked rushing defense (vs 19th ranked passing defense).  It doesn't seem as though there would be any benefit in going heavy one way or the other.  

I was to lazy to look up the rankings.... I just assumed with their big DT's they were a bit tougher to run on. Then I have no idea what the F the eagles were thinking for this game. I'm glad I passed out in the second quarter, so I'm not as miserable about it as everyone else lol

31 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

I think Gainwell has been slightly disappointing.

He's scored a few 5 yard TDs but he doesn't seem capable or trusted for a large number of carries or explosive plays

I think he can be that complementary back.  Sanders should get more carries and Gainwell and Scott can get some touches to change it up as well but Gainwell is capable, he made some good plays as a rookie.  I doubt they'll re-sign Sanders given all the money they'll have to spend to retain other priority free agents, so they'll need to pick up a RB in the draft.

25 minutes ago, time2rock said:

They have the 16th ranked rushing defense (vs 19th ranked passing defense).  It doesn't seem as though there would be any benefit in going heavy one way or the other.  

 

16 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I was to lazy to look up the rankings.... I just assumed with their big DT's they were a bit tougher to run on. Then I have no idea what the F the eagles were thinking for this game. I'm glad I passed out in the second quarter, so I'm not as miserable about it as everyone else lol

Rankings don't necessarily tell the whole story.  During the game Aikman was acknowledging their strong D line and Kelce in his post-game interview talked about how good their D line is and their defense overall.

Even so, they should have had a more balanced game in the beginning.  It seems they thought they were going to go up a couple scores by passing a lot and running in the red zone which they've done most of the year.  They were not staying on the field, our defense was tired and Washington got the momentum. In the 2nd half their best drive included several run plays where Sanders had some good gains.  It was too little too late.

3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I was to lazy to look up the rankings.... I just assumed with their big DT's they were a bit tougher to run on. Then I have no idea what the F the eagles were thinking for this game. I'm glad I passed out in the second quarter, so I'm not as miserable about it as everyone else lol

I didn't stay up to watch the full game either.  I get up at 4am for work so it's hard for me to hang for those night games.  If they win I am too amped up to fall asleep afterward.  If they look like sheet and lose then I'm too pissed to fall asleep.  lol

I hate losing too (especially to a divisional rival ... but at least it wasn't Dallas!) but also know you have to expect a loss here and there, even for the best teams.  It's unrealistic to expect to go an entire season without losing a couple games.  So take this L and move on.  It's how they bounce back from this that matters.  Hopefully the coaches learned some valuable lessons as it comes to scheming and keeping some semblance of balance and further, hopefully the players know they need to keep the foot on the pedal at all times, that no team should be taken lightly, until the goal (a championship) has been reached (like Hurts continually says, we haven't won anything yet).  

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

I think he can be that complementary back.  Sanders should get more carries and Gainwell and Scott can get some touches to change it up as well but Gainwell is capable, he made some good plays as a rookie.  I doubt they'll re-sign Sanders given all the money they'll have to spend to retain other priority free agents, so they'll need to pick up a RB in the draft.

What happened to Sanders the pass catcher we saw his rookie year? That would make life even harder for defenses but he def needs a more steady dose of carries

2 minutes ago, NJWolverEagle11 said:

What happened to Sanders the pass catcher we saw his rookie year? That would make life even harder for defenses but he def needs a more steady dose of carries

Right.  He's never really reached his potential, and now that he's in the last year of his contract he seems to be performing better.  But he's not getting as many snaps, probably because he didn't take more advantage in previous years.  I don't think they should re-sign him because he's going to want too much money and it's not worth the risk of his production falling off.  

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

You make yourself much easier to defend against when you become one dimensional.  You are helping the opposing defense do exactly what they are trying to do.  One rushing play called on offense in the first half is ridiculous.  

5 called rushes actually. 2 designed run by Hurts. 2 by Gainwell (1 wiped out by penalty) and 1 by Sanders. 

And it was working as I said. The Defense and freak turnovers lost us that game.