7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

No, it really didn't.  It was a guarantee that no matter how Griner was released, the right was going to go after it.  But of course, it's still infinitely better than the purely hypothetical scenario of releasing thousands of Taliban prisoners and getting nothing for it.    No one's dumb enough to do that.

If you think the blow back would have been the same if Biden got Paul Whelan instead of this moron basketball player you’re out of your mind. Even level headed democrats are calling this a massive failure.

9 minutes ago, Gannan said:

When there is another alternative to Biden and the democrats... yes. Until then... no.

why not try voting for an alternative candidate then? there will never be a change if people that want change never commit to it.....

Just now, BFit said:

why not try voting for an alternative candidate then? there will never be a change if people that want change never commit to it.....

thats what i did in the pa senate election. i knew gerhardt had zero chance to win, but i am tired of the crap the gop is putting out there. again, at least mccormick was a legit candidate unlike oz. 

18 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Ishlibs:  *bring up Trump*

Also Ishlibs:

I thought it was obvious, but I was mocking the trumpbots who have been saying he's irrelevant for the past two years because they're in denial of what a clown show their party has become.  

4 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

thats what i did in the pa senate election. i knew gerhardt had zero chance to win, but i am tired of the crap the gop is putting out there. again, at least mccormick was a legit candidate unlike oz. 

same here

Don't think this was a good idea but happy she's back. Hopefully she's a hell of a lot more careful when traveling

side note:  there are few things less sexy than a bro-ad dunking a basketball.  

 

 

Damn, we got ripped off. Not even future considerations?

31 minutes ago, TEW said:

If you think the blow back would have been the same if Biden got Paul Whelan instead of this moron basketball player you’re out of your mind. Even level headed democrats are calling this a massive failure.

You really don't think the left wouldn't have been screeching if the black, female, LGBTQ icon didn't get released and instead worked a deal for the white dude who was dishonorably discharged for suspected legit crimes?

You must be high. Don't ever visit Russia.

1 hour ago, iladelphxx said:

The US gets a shot blocking, low post scorer while Russia gets the most prolific Arms Dealer of the last 30 years who is responsible for arming Al Qaeda and both sides of every violent conflict in the lete 20th/early 21st centuries. 

 

 

 

So we traded a convicted Russian terrorist for a drug user who refused to be on the court when the national anthem is played? Glad we have our priorities straight. 

Well done Biden admin. 

29 minutes ago, BFit said:

why not try voting for an alternative candidate then? there will never be a change if people that want change never commit to it.....

I used to vote 3rd party all of the time because there wasn't much of a difference between democrats and republicans. Now there is. The democrats are bad, but they are bad within acceptable parameters. If Trump were to ever get back into power, America as we know it would be over. 

2 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

So we traded a convicted Russian terrorist for a drug user who refused to be on the court when the national anthem is played? Glad we have our priorities straight. 

Well done Biden admin. 

Hopefully this experience has taught her a new appreciation for just how lucky she is to be an American. 

Just now, Gannan said:

Hopefully this experience has taught her a new appreciation for just how lucky she is to be an American. 

It Fing better. 

2 hours ago, paco said:

  

 

9 replies before a But Trump.  ALMOST made it to double digits.

The hypocrisy of MAGA is a gift that keeps on giving. 
 

Not directed at you. 

5 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I used to vote 3rd party all of the time because there wasn't much of a difference between democrats and republicans. Now there is. The democrats are bad, but they are bad within acceptable parameters. If Trump were to ever get back into power, America as we know it would be over. 

dont get fooled, there still not much difference between dems and repubs. weve all just been beaten into submission by media outlets (mainsteam and social) to believe that one side is the evil power. trump Fs this country up just as much as biden has if he was elected. 

9 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

You really don't think the left wouldn't have been screeching if the black, female, LGBTQ icon didn't get released and instead worked a deal for the white dude who was dishonorably discharged for suspected legit crimes?

You must be high. Don't ever visit Russia.

I mean, I literally found out about this through a group text chain of democrat friends flipping out about this, one of whom was literally a campaign manager. Even they said this was retarded even by Biden standards.

Granted, they were born before 1980 and are evil cis white straight males, so maybe they don’t reflect the current Democratic Party…

jo!

 

56 minutes ago, TEW said:

It literally did matter what the deal was.

Trading a terrorist arms dealer for some moron basketball player is like the Vikings giving Jimmy Johnson a dynasty for Hershel Walker.

Except this isn’t sports. 

Everyone who is saying we lost this trade obviously hasn't seen Griners drop step.  This Russian clown cant even hit a free throw consistently.

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

Except this isn’t sports. 

Yeah, no kidding. That makes it worse, not better.

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Everyone who is saying we lost this trade obviously hasn't seen Griners drop step.  This Russian clown cant even hit a free throw consistently.

 She can't hit an Apache helicopter with a Stinger missile though 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Yeah, no kidding. That makes it worse, not better.

Not really.
 

If you strip away all the emotion, we traded an American citizen for a Russian citizen. 

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

jo!

 

the stupid didnt fall far from the tree. 

4 minutes ago, BFit said:

dont get fooled, there still not much difference between dems and repubs. weve all just been beaten into submission by media outlets (mainsteam and social) to believe that one side is the evil power. trump Fs this country up just as much as biden has if he was elected. 

Until the dems refuse to concede elections, submit false slates of electors in a blatant attempt to subvert democracy itself, radicalize domestic terrorists into the worst attack on the nation's capitol in two centuries, suggest abolishing the constitution over lies to stroke a man-child's ego, then there is a massive difference. You've been beaten into submission by whatever media you consume if you think there's anything even remotely equivalent to these things by dems or even any repubs previous to the ones that slithered into power in 2016.

I'm glad she's being released. I can't imagine the conditions that she's been locked up in.