Choose Joe's VP

[TomatoPie]

Who will Joe choose and why?

[20dawk4life]

Said Biden Kamala a long time ago. Don’t think it works but I think it’s her. 

[Ialone]

 

Because Joe wont make it all the way through a 4 year term

[DaEagles4Life]

Whitmer 

[EagleJoe8]

I’m not choosing any. I’ll do it all myself!

[vikas83]

I think he will choose Harris, mainly because she was friendly with Beau Biden. Joe can be sentimental, especially about his late son. Also, Harris is a nationally known politician and a minority, so she checks those boxes. Finally, she will do fine against Pence if there is a VP debate. Her biggest drawback is she brings nothing electorally.

Whitmer has definitely raised her profile during the pandemic, and she helps in a swing state. I just think Biden's personal relationship with Harris carries the day, along with the desire to have a minority on the ticket. 

[TomatoPie]

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

I think he will choose Harris, mainly because she was friendly with Beau Biden. Joe can be sentimental, especially about his late son. Also, Harris is a nationally known politician and a minority, so she checks those boxes. Finally, she will do fine against Pence if there is a VP debate. Her biggest drawback is she brings nothing electorally.

Whitmer has definitely raised her profile during the pandemic, and she helps in a swing state. I just think Biden's personal relationship with Harris carries the day, along with the desire to have a minority on the ticket. 

I largely agree with this analysis, but there is some data-ish evidence that the VP rarely or never makes the difference in a big state.  

Bluntly, beyond Russian interference, Clinton lost because black Democrats stayed home.

Who turns out the black vote?  That's the best choice - if the candidate is also qualified.  Harris checks them boxes.  So does Val Demings.

[hey suess]

Val Demmings couldn’t keep her police-issued handgun secure, what makes you think she could secure our nation?

[VanHammersly]

Harris is a really strong choice.  She'd be able to run circles around Pence in a debate (if there is one), she's pretty young, hot enough, and she'd be a nice counter to Biden.  She'd also shut up the SJW's with their old white man comments and give them a chance to get excited about a "first". 

[Joe Shades 73]

Harris

1 hour ago, hey suess said:

Val Demmings couldn’t keep her police-issued handgun secure, what makes you think she could secure our nation?

11,310 posts you've been busy

[Bill]

Michelle would shore up the suburban women vote and get the minority vote.

[Gannan]

Whitmer, but my dream pick would be Michelle Obama just to watch the Trumpbot meltdowns. 

[hey suess]

2 hours ago, Joe Hunter 73 said:

 

11,310 posts you've been busy

[Dave Moss]

Two sides to this

On one hand, Dems want to win the Rust Belt which they lost in 2016 and then fumbled away the election.  So they could go with someone from Ohio or Michigan  (Whitmer??)

On the other hand, Dems might want someone more progressive to energize the base (Warren??)   Not sure about the age thing, but she's younger than Biden and Trump.

Harris checks neither of those boxes, although I agree that she's one of the favorites. 

[vikas83]

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Two sides to this

On one hand, Dems want to win the Rust Belt which they lost in 2016 and then fumbled away the election.  So they could go with someone from Ohio or Michigan  (Whitmer??)

On the other hand, Dems might want someone more progressive to energize the base (Warren??)   Not sure about the age thing, but she's younger than Biden and Trump.

Harris checks neither of those boxes, although I agree that she's one of the favorites. 

Warren would be a mistake. She chases away moderates and disaffected Republicans. She runs up the score in CA and WA, but she scares working class white voters and African Americans. 

[mr_hunt]

harris is the safe choice, imo.  cheeto has been such a disaster that joe just needs to pick someone who won't cost him votes...warren or another far lefty. 

[Dave Moss]

what if he picked Nikki Haley?

[LacesOut]

Harris.

Just thought of something. LOL. How are Politicians going to campaign without being able to shake hands with the people? No pressing the flesh, keep 6 feet away from everyone, it could be a difficult task.

[VanHammersly]

45 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

what if he picked Nikki Haley?

Not worth it.  I can see the appeal of bipartisanship, but we're not a bipartisan country right now.  And all the Repubs with any sense are voting for Biden anyway based on the top of the tickets.  Biden needs to work on his left flank more than his right.  Harris isn't exactly a liberal icon, but she at least won't have the far left running in droves like Haley would.

[vikas83]

3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

what if he picked Nikki Haley?

She wouldn’t accept it. Everything she is doing - latest being resigning from the Boeing board - is to set up her 2024 campaign for the GOP nomination. 

[Jsvand12]

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

She wouldn’t accept it. Everything she is doing - latest being resigning from the Boeing board - is to set up her 2024 campaign for the GOP nomination. 

And there is no chance Biden would actually be allowed to choose someone from the GOP. He’s too old and the risk is too high that he’d be handing the GOP the presidency and another SC pick.

[TomatoPie]

A unity-style ticket is a nice thought, but better with somebody respectable like Mitt than with Trumpyhoar Haley.  But it would outrage the progressives, already chafing with sand in their panties because Bernie lost.

What about a nice never-Trumper?  Mindy Finn!

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Finn's work focuses on technology's impact on politics and democracy for good, and she has built tools and programs to empower groups and individuals to organize and shape policy. Finn is co-founder of Stand Up Republic, a leading organization creating systems to unite Americans across the political spectrum to defend and advance democracy, inspire responsible, unifying leaders and sustain a healthy, pluralistic society. Finn founded Empowered Women, a non-profit working to expand and diversify the conversation on women's equality to build a more inclusive pipeline of civic leaders through which she sits on the board of ReflectUS.[6] Finn previously worked at Twitter heading up strategic partnerships in Washington, D.C., and specializing in business development. She was recently named one of "50 Politicos to Watch" by POLITICO and a "Tech Titan" by the Washingtonian magazine. Finn has also been named one of the Best in Digital by FamousDC.

 

[toolg]

Harris is a natural choice. It makes a lot of sense. I think Warren is a strong pick too. I like her better as VP candidate than POTUS. Makes a nod to the progressive wing on the party. But she's so divisive....

But I'm going with Klobuchar. I feel like the Midwest is the battleground in this election. So I'm taking a Midwesterner over a East-West coast candidate. And she's able to garner support from people with different ideologies. I know Biden is a compromise pick already, but I think someone like Klobuchar bolsters the ticket. Where people either love or hate Warren, Harris, et. al.

[vikas83]

1 minute ago, toolg said:

Harris is a natural choice. It makes a lot of sense. I think Warren is a strong pick too. I like her better as VP candidate than POTUS. Makes a nod to the progressive wing on the party. But she's so divisive....

But I'm going with Klobuchar. I feel like the Midwest is the battleground in this election. So I'm taking a Midwesterner over a East-West coast candidate. And she's able to garner support from people with different ideologies. I know Biden is a compromise pick already, but I think someone like Klobuchar bolsters the ticket. Where people either love or hate Warren, Harris, et. al.

Klobuchar is an abomination of a human being, and that will come out during a general election.

If Biden picked her, I'd donate to Trump. 

[toolg]

Just now, vikas83 said:

Klobuchar is an abomination of a human being, and that will come out during a general election.

If Biden picked her, I'd donate to Trump. 

I know she's not the easiest to get along with... Compared to Trump? Not so bad.