Posted January 10, 20232 yr I know - they in a playoff bttle to get to the Super Bowl and here I am thinking about next year. I wouldn't be but I think we're going to have a real problem having a successful year. "Why?", you say - well here's the list of interrelated problems Howis is facing. We have about $12M in cap space including this year's carryover We have to sign our quarterback and it's going to be a mega-deal which will eat up that cap space. Of our 17 free agents (not counting Suh and Joseph) 11 are starters - Sanders, Kelce, Seumalo, Cox, Hargrave, BG, White, Edwards, Epps, CGJ, and Lovato. We only have replacements ofr 3 of those starters on the roster - Dean fo one of the LB's, Blankenship for one of the Safeties, and Jurgens for Kelce. The other free agents are backups - Minshew, Scott, Dillard, Pascal, and Ward. They will all need to be replaced along with the three backup positions above. The cap situation means few or no free agents including our own, meaning we have to rely on the draft BUT, We only have 6 draft picks and 2 of those are in the 7th round. The high priced guys still here (Johnson and Slay) have already been restructured Howie is good and maybe even great, but the deck is stacked against him here. What would you do?
January 10, 20232 yr Our entire offense will be back, minus maybe Kelce for Jurgens and Sanders for any combo from the pristine 2023 FA Class. Defense will have some turnover, but absolutely we’ll be on track to win 11+ games again in this conference. Particularly if the Rodgers’s and the Brady’s go away. Id worry about keeping the Dline as our strength, and then balancing talent around the back 7. Don’t need pro bowlers everywhere, just avoid big holes. Bring back CJGJ, White, Hargrave. Look to trade for a starting corner.
January 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: Our entire offense will be back, minus maybe Kelce for Jurgens and Sanders for any combo from the pristine 2023 FA Class. Defense will have some turnover, but absolutely we’ll be on track to win 11+ games again in this conference. Particularly if the Rodgers’s and the Brady’s go away. Id worry about keeping the Dline as our strength, and then balancing talent around the back 7. Don’t need pro bowlers everywhere, just avoid big holes. Bring back CJGJ, White, Hargrave. Look to trade for a starting corner. Roughly this. It's not going to be easy, but this team is silly talented. Hurts will get a big deal, but it will be an extension and shouldn't count too much towards this years cap. I don't see how we can pay Bradberry, but we make Hargrave a priority and try and sign Edwards and CGJ and if that doesn't work out fall back on White and Epps. I suspect we get a corner with one of our firsts in a deep class.
January 10, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: Our entire offense will be back, minus maybe Kelce for Jurgens and Sanders for any combo from the pristine 2023 FA Class. Defense will have some turnover, but absolutely we’ll be on track to win 11+ games again in this conference. Particularly if the Rodgers’s and the Brady’s go away. Id worry about keeping the Dline as our strength, and then balancing talent around the back 7. Don’t need pro bowlers everywhere, just avoid big holes. Bring back CJGJ, White, Hargrave. Look to trade for a starting corner. I could see Lane missing a few weeks due to injuries but yea the offensive weapons will stay the same thankfully
January 10, 20232 yr My struggle is Bradberry versus Hargrave. If you had to pick one, where does the money go?
January 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Iggles25 said: My struggle is Bradberry versus Hargrave. If you had to pick one, where does the money go? Draft a cb and dt with their first round picks and let both guys walk for a decent comp pick next year.
January 10, 20232 yr Of our 17 free agents (not counting Suh and Joseph) 11 are starters - Sanders, Kelce, Seumalo, Cox, Hargrave, BG, White, Edwards, Epps, CGJ, and Lovato. In bold are the players I think will be back. BG's had a great year in a PT role, I think he'll be back for 1 more year on a reasonable year. CGJ and Hargrave I think are priorities. Epps will be affordable; Seumalo will cost a bit, but I don't think he breaks the bank. Edwards can't cover well, but he's a solid tackler with good instincts ... his limitations in the passing game will keep his price affordable. Hurts' deal will be cap friendly in year one and somewhat friendly year 2 ... after that Howie needs to get really creative 🙂
January 10, 20232 yr Which takes the premium? If you go DT early, probably not getting a top CB. And vice versa.
January 10, 20232 yr 49 minutes ago, Rob331 said: We have to sign our quarterback and it's going to be a mega-deal which will eat up that cap space. No, we don't. And based on an injury two years in a row, and only one year of this success, they will make him play out his contract.
January 10, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Iggles25 said: Which takes the premium? If you go DT early, probably not getting a top CB. And vice versa. If it were me, I would go corner and then DT. There seems to be a handful of prospects at corner that should be there at 10 - Ringo, Porter, Gonzalez and Smith - so we should get a day 1 starter. At DT, with Milton Williams playing well and with Davis hopefully taking a step forward next year, we can bring in someone who might not be ready to start day 1. Two names I like are Gervon Dexter and Siaki Ika. Dexter, for example, is excellent against the run but poor at rushing the passer. So he can play early downs right away, and we can resign Cox at a reasonable deal to rush the passer.
January 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, jsb235 said: If it were me, I would go corner and then DT. There seems to be a handful of prospects at corner that should be there at 10 - Ringo, Porter, Gonzalez and Smith - so we should get a day 1 starter. At DT, with Milton Williams playing well and with Davis hopefully taking a step forward next year, we can bring in someone who might not be ready to start day 1. Two names I like are Gervon Dexter and Siaki Ika. Dexter, for example, is excellent against the run but poor at rushing the passer. So he can play early downs right away, and we can resign Cox at a reasonable deal to rush the passer. Like your thinking. That's what I'm hoping for too. Sleeper for DT prospect: Byron Young Might be able to get him late RD2-early RD3
January 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Rob331 said: I know - they in a playoff battle to get to the Super Bowl and here I am thinking about next year. I wouldn't be but I think we're going to have a real problem having a successful year. "Why?", you say - well here's the list of interrelated problems Howie is facing. We have about $12M in cap space including this year's carryover We have to sign our quarterback and it's going to be a mega-deal which will eat up that cap space. Of our 17 free agents (not counting Suh and Joseph) 11 are starters - Sanders, Kelce, Seumalo, Cox, Hargrave, BG, White, Edwards, Epps, CGJ, and Lovato. We only have replacements of 3 of those starters on the roster - Dean of one of the LB's, Blankenship for one of the Safeties, and Jurgens for Kelce. The other free agents are backups - Minshew, Scott, Dillard, Pascal, and Ward. They will all need to be replaced along with the three backup positions above. The cap situation means few or no free agents including our own, meaning we have to rely on the draft BUT, We only have 6 draft picks and 2 of those are in the 7th round. The high priced guys still here (Johnson and Slay) have already been restructured Howie is good and maybe even great, but the deck is stacked against him here. What would you do? Pay them under the table? Bad joke. The problem of all Super Bowl teams failure to repeat is usually due to losing players and coaches after their success. A tale as old as time, but better to have that problem than not to have a team with a strong possibility of winning the Super Bowl this season. The Philadelphia Eagles have to secure the premium positions of players that have proven themselves that starts with the QB (but due to the incredibly high salary they will probably have to let a few players go to keep Jalen Hurts on the roster or franchise tag him). Then we can look at LT, CB- To my understanding they are in the process of signing CB James Bradberry to a 3 year $51 million contract. Backup Left Tackle Andre Dillard is up for contract but how many fans want to spend big money on a backup? Then QB Gardner Minshew many would say we should sign him until they watched his last two games now it's hard pressed to find Minshew mania fan base. I expect he'll be a backup for another NFL team next season, enjoy the ring Garnder. Then on Defense we have DT Fletcher Cox (7 sacks) whom was cut only to be resigned this season but has he done enough to warrant another big salary contract? DT Javon Hargrave (11 sacks) has to be signed is most fans thoughts but he only has four more sacks than Fletcher is it simply because of Cox's age or salary that has most fans wanting to move on from Fletcher but not Javon. Then into less than premium positions such as LB TJ Edwards whom even since college has never had below eighty tackles in a season ever. He's played so well, that LB Dean has barely played at all this season. How much is MILB that specializes in tackles worth? Then after making the Pro Bowl how much would you be willing to pay HB Miles Sanders? Will Center Kelce play another season and if so no question you pay that man and give him free beer for life! Then Guard Issac do you let him test Free Agency waters or do you sign him?
January 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Iggles25 said: My struggle is Bradberry versus Hargrave. If you had to pick one, where does the money go? Easy you pay Bradberry, cornerback is a higher premium position than interior defensive line (Unless he's A. Donald). Plus Eagles are stacked at DT where CB is thinner on depth talent.
January 10, 20232 yr I hate to say it but OT could be the pick at #10 if he can also play inside like Andrews did years ago. It would solve two immediate issues this off-season with a possible RG replacement and needed swing tackle. Plus the added benefit of being Johnson's long term replacement.
January 10, 20232 yr Hurts will get a new deal but it likely won't affect the cap in 2023 since it'll be an extension of his rookie contract which expires until 2024. Also, the cap will skyrocket almost for sure, so there will be more flexibility than expected, I think.
January 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, downundermike said: No, we don't. And based on an injury two years in a row, and only one year of this success, they will make him play out his contract. No. In all probability they will sign him to a big contract this off-season.
January 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said: No. In all probability they will sign him to a big contract this off-season. With an injury two years in a row, I don't think so. Plus, they are going to have cap issues next year, they will want to see what he looks like with a not so strong team around him.
January 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, downundermike said: With an injury two years in a row, I don't think so. Plus, they are going to have cap issues next year, they will want to see what he looks like with a not so strong team around him. Give it up Mike. The only way they don’t sign Hurts is if he demands a stupid/ fully guaranteed contract. They will want to get him locked up before the contract becomes a distraction. The injuries have been minor. I expect Howie to make sure we have some outs in the contract in any event. He will still have Brown, Smith, Goedert and most of his line. How different do you expect him to look?
January 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said: Give it up Mike. The only way they don’t sign Hurts is if he demands a stupid/ fully guaranteed contract. They will want to get him locked up before the contract becomes a distraction. The injuries have been minor. I expect Howie to make sure we have some outs in the contract in any event. He will still have Brown, Smith, Goedert and most of his line. How different do you expect him to look? You want to make an avatar bet on it ??
January 10, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Rob331 said: Howie is good and maybe even great, He's good/great of spending Lurie's money to hide his drafting mistakes.
January 10, 20232 yr I was going to write a long response about this thread etc. I was going to give it some real thought. But I can't. Worried about 2023 already? When we are the #1 seed and our 2022 season isn't yet over. Come on Rob, you're better than that.
January 10, 20232 yr The one player I hope the Eagles keep for a long time! https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/chauncey-gardner-johnson-29153/market-value/
January 10, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: Our entire offense will be back, minus maybe Kelce for Jurgens and Sanders for any combo from the pristine 2023 FA Class. Defense will have some turnover, but absolutely we’ll be on track to win 11+ games again in this conference. Particularly if the Rodgers’s and the Brady’s go away. Id worry about keeping the Dline as our strength, and then balancing talent around the back 7. Don’t need pro bowlers everywhere, just avoid big holes. Bring back CJGJ, White, Hargrave. Look to trade for a starting corner. With what money after signing Hurts?
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