June 24, 20232 yr I believe that Hunter Biden was on the tether ship, and that is why these people are dead today. Wing nuts.
June 24, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Toastrel said: I believe that Hunter Biden was on the tether ship, and that is why these people are dead today. Wing nuts. I heard he had the navy sink it to create the distraction
June 24, 20232 yr I've read that Canada is looking into potential criminal prosecutions, but if nothing illegal happened on Canadian soil or in Canadian waters, I don't see how they could prosecute anything. Who legally 'owns' Titanic? Maybe an International treaty should be looked into whereby the country of whoever owns it (or any other similar thing in International waters), has jurisdiction over possible criminal charges when negligence (or incompetence), causes deaths. So, for instance, if it's owned by a British entity, they have jurisdiction to prosecute, if there's something there to be prosecuted.
June 24, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, paco said: I heard he had the navy sink it to create the distraction Biden sank the Titanic!?!?!
June 24, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Biden sank the Titanic!?!?! That too, but that was more of a mid life crisis thing
June 24, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: I've read that Canada is looking into potential criminal prosecutions, but if nothing illegal happened on Canadian soil or in Canadian waters, I don't see how they could prosecute anything. Who legally 'owns' Titanic? Maybe an International treaty should be looked into whereby the country of whoever owns it (or any other similar thing in International waters), has jurisdiction over possible criminal charges when negligence (or incompetence), causes deaths. So, for instance, if it's owned by a British entity, they have jurisdiction to prosecute, if there's something there to be prosecuted. It might depend on where the company is headquartered or where the mother ship is registered. Naval law is kinda weird too, so who Fn knows at this point.
June 26, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, DBW said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ct2mPgorhVO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
June 26, 20232 yr The Navy Heard the Tourist Sub Implode. But It Shouldn't Have Changed the Search Effort. Quote This photo provided by OceanGate Expeditions shows a submersible vessel named Titan used to visit the wreckage site of the Titanic. In a race against the clock on the high seas, an expanding international armada of ships and airplanes searched Tuesday, June 20, 2023, for the submersible that vanished in the North Atlantic while taking five people down to the wreck of the Titanic. (OceanGate Expeditions via AP) 23 Jun 2023 Military.com | By Konstantin Toropin The Navy says it picked up what may have been the implosion of the Titan -- the private submersible that was declared lost Thursday -- on its underwater microphones five days before rescue teams learned of its demise. The revelation raised questions about how the Navy evidence, which was collected Sunday but not made public until Thursday, played into the large search-and-rescue effort that transfixed the world. However, experts in submarine operations and sonar say that, while the data seems prescient in hindsight, it was likely inconclusive on its own and the search effort -- led by the U.S. Coast Guard but involving ships and military assets from the U.S. and several countries -- was still necessary and meaningful. Read Next: 5th SFAB Commander Fired as Other Officers Face Misconduct Investigations After first being reported by The Wall Street Journal, a senior Navy official told Military.com in an email that the sea service "conducted an analysis of acoustic data and detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost." The official went on to note that the data was "not definitive" but "immediately shared with the incident commander to assist with the ongoing search and rescue mission." The statement does not say when in the five-day search the data was shared. On Thursday, the U.S. Coast Guard ultimately determined that the private submersible craft carrying five people attempting to view the wreckage of the Titanic suffered a catastrophic implosion after rescue teams located five different major pieces of debris with a remotely piloted vehicle. Brynn Tannehill, a former Navy aviator who flew anti-submarine aircraft and spent time as a sonar operator aboard a submarine, noted that noises picked up on underwater microphones can often be ambiguous and always require secondary confirmation. "Without confirmation generally all you can say is 'noises consistent with X,'" Tannehill wrote in a series of Tweets on Friday. "Until you find the wreckage, you cannot rule out tectonic activity, other military activity that was unknown to the U.S., potential commercial operations, etc.," she added. Chris Drew, a former military journalist and author who investigated the sinking of the USS Thresher -- a Navy submarine that sank in 1963 roughly 800 miles from the Titanic -- also noted that the sounds may have been made more ambiguous by the unusual nature of the small submersible. "This is only a 22-foot submersible. … There's not as much sound because there's not as much to implode," he told Military.com in a phone interview Friday. Drew noted that the Navy has far more experience with the sound of a steel-hulled, several-hundred-foot submarine imploding. "They probably don't have any experience at hearing a carbon-fiber pressure hull imploding." Both Drew and Tannehill also pointed out that picking up a sound underwater does not mean you have its precise location. "Judging distance and depth with hydrophones with passive detection is difficult," Tannehill wrote, before adding that determining distance requires cross-fixes -- directional data from several different sources. In two naval submarine losses -- one U.S. and one Soviet, Drew said that "it was triangulating noises picked up by the underwater listening stations and other devices that helped us find the locations." The USS Scorpion, which sank in the North Atlantic in May 1968, was heard by not only the Navy's own underwater Sound Surveillance System, or SOSUS, but also by two Air Force hydrophones in the water off Newfoundland. Drew said that it was this combination of sources that allowed the Navy to eventually locate the sub. Bob Ballard, the famed undersea archaeologist, would eventually survey the wrecks of both the Thresher and Scorpion in a series of top-secret expeditions for the Navy between 1984 and 1986. In between, in 1985, he would find the wreck of the Titanic. The Navy rarely discusses SOSUS -- a term that has come to be synonymous with a variety of programs and capabilities that monitor the ocean around the U.S. for submarines. In fact, the entire mission was officially classified until 1991, though at that point it had become an open secret. The Navy senior official did say that there was a "compilation of additional acoustic data provided by other partners" but that "the decision was made to continue our mission as a search and rescue and make every effort to save the lives on board." Ultimately, both Drew and Tannehill said that the Coast Guard was right to continue with the search effort despite the acoustic data from the Navy. "You can't call off the search based on the one sound," Drew said. Editor's note: This story has been updated to clarify the details of the Scorpion's sinking. -- Konstantin Toropin can be reached at konstantin.toropin@military.com. Follow him on Twitter @ktoropin. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/06/23/navy-heard-tourist-sub-implode-it-shouldnt-have-changed-search-effort.html?ESRC=eb_230626.nl&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb&utm_campaign=20230626
June 26, 20232 yr Jones would have know what it was right away, before the computer. I hear bulkheads collapsing.
June 28, 20232 yr Looks like they recovered the submersible. https://www.yahoo.com/news/imploded-titanic-submarine-seen-first-144824288.html Imploded Titanic submarine seen for first time as pieces recovered from sea floor Debris from the Titan was brought ashore by deep-sea robots on Wednesday as the US Coast Guard continues recovery operations following the sub’s catastrophic implosion. The Titan’s wreckage was seen for the first time in pictures after the Coast Guard announced on 23 June that ROVs (remotely-operated vehicles) found its chambers in a sea of debris 1,600ft from the bow of the Titanic, roughly 12,000ft below the ocean surface.
June 28, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: Looks like they recovered the submersible. https://www.yahoo.com/news/imploded-titanic-submarine-seen-first-144824288.html Imploded Titanic submarine seen for first time as pieces recovered from sea floor Debris from the Titan was brought ashore by deep-sea robots on Wednesday as the US Coast Guard continues recovery operations following the sub’s catastrophic implosion. The Titan’s wreckage was seen for the first time in pictures after the Coast Guard announced on 23 June that ROVs (remotely-operated vehicles) found its chambers in a sea of debris 1,600ft from the bow of the Titanic, roughly 12,000ft below the ocean surface. "The Coast Guard said over the weekend that salvage operations were ongoing, but recovery of the bodies will be difficult due to the "unforgiving condition” on the ocean floor." I'm not a sub expert, but wouldn't a implosion at that depth, that high above the ocean floor pretty much just result in pink goo spread across thousands of meters of ocean floor? What "bodies" are there to recover?
June 28, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I'm not a sub expert, but wouldn't a implosion at that depth, that high above the ocean floor pretty much just result in pink goo spread across thousands of meters of ocean floor? What "bodies" are there to recover? Yeah, there's nothing to recover. I've seen others who proport to be 'experts' say that the implosion basically vaporized the bodies instantly, making them a red mist in the water. If any body parts were intact, they've been on the ocean floor for over a week and there's sea life down there that would have likely eaten what was available.
June 29, 20232 yr I just read a headline that they've recovered 'suspected human remains', the word 'suspected' makes it sound like it's something that they can't identify as being human so DNA testing will have to be done.
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