Swimm Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Social media and all these corporate stooges are hell bent on shoving this garbage down our throat. I support free speech which is why I don't support this far left Marxist garbage.
Kz! Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Wow, good for Marcellus Wiley for actually understanding what the organization is. Wish more people would actually look into it. 6 1
Boogyman Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Swimm said: I better not see any of this BLM trash in the NFL or what? 1 2
binkybink77 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Stay tuned for the mob to deep dive on anything Wiley has ever said or done in his life in an attempt to bring him down over his comments. BLM has become a cult - no better than Scientology 9 1
Swimm Posted July 3, 2020 Author Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, binkybink77 said: Stay tuned for the mob to deep dive on anything Wiley has ever said or done in his life in an attempt to bring him down over his comments. BLM has become a cult - no better than Scientology Its basically a religion at this point..Its a very very dangerous movement backed by giant corporations and social media. People get fired and and cancelled for opposing this new religion. https://www.newsweek.com/group-sues-dc-mayor-over-street-mural-says-it-violates-freedom-religion-clause-behalf-1510617
PhillyPhreak24 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Kz! said: Wow, good for Marcellus Wiley for actually understanding what the organization is. Wish more people would actually look into it. BLM is a Marxist group. It's never been about helping black people. They're lining the pockets of Democrats. 1 1
EaglesRocker97 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, PhillyPhreak24 said: BLM is a Marxist group. It's never been about helping black people. They're lining the pockets of Democrats. Lol. Please explain the "Marxist" angle, and the last part is blatantly false. These people generally feel like they've been abandoned by Democrats.
lynched1 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Lol. Please explain the "Marxist" angle, and the last part is blatantly false. These people generally feel like they've been abandoned by Democrats. You better watch some of their interviews. In their own words. "trained Marxist". They aren't running from it. 3
Swimm Posted July 3, 2020 Author Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Lol. Please explain the "Marxist" angle, and the last part is blatantly false. These people generally feel like they've been abandoned by Democrats. The Black Lives Matter movement has left-wing ideological goals, according to one of the movement’s co-founders, who previously admitted to being a political activist driven by Marxism. Many BLM supporters consider the movement to be a moral one that exists outside of political squabbling. But in a 2015 interview with The Real News Network, Patrisse Cullors, who co-founded the organization in 2013 along with Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi, identified herself and Garza as "trained Marxists.” When asked if there was "a lack of ideological direction in Black Lives Matter,” Cullors responded by making the political motivations of the movement crystal clear. We actually do have an ideological frame,” Cullors said. "Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers. "We are trained Marxists. We are super versed on ideological theories and I think that what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk.”The Black Lives Matter Global Network does promote various left-wing/Marxist policies, such as the organization’s desire to "disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure,” as is stated on its website. This desire to dismantle the concept of the family is one that the Black Lives Matter movement shares with the fallen communist state of the Soviet Union, whose most brutal leader, Joseph Stalin, was responsible for the deaths of between 20 to 60 million people during his three-decade rule, according to the International Business Times. In a 1926 issue of The Atlantic, an anonymous female resident of Russia revealed the regime’s attack on the family unit. "When the Bolsheviki came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other ‘bourgeois’ institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it,” the woman wrote. Other communist policies that BLM support include dismantling capitalism and redistributing wealth, as The Telegraph has pointed out, despite the fact that an estimated 94 million people died as a result of communism between 1900 and 2000. Former FBI Assistant Deputy Director Terry Turchie claims BLM’s goals and origins share quite a few similarities with radical left-wing organizations from the 1960s and 1970s, such as the Black Panther Party, which he said "was tied to at least three dozen murders of police officers across the country,” and the Weather Underground, a terrorist organization with one former member who has direct ties to BLM. "No one has read what Black Lives Matter has written as far as their plan and their charter, but it bears a great similarity to what the Black Panther Party was saying back then. The Black Panther Party was a Marxist, Maoist, Leninist organization and that came from Huey Newton, one of the co-founders,” Turchie told Sky News Australia earlier this month. "He gave a speech in 1970 at Boston College, and he said ‘we’re standing for nothing more than the total transformation’ — very important two words there — ‘the total transformation of the United States government and America.’ And he went on to explain that ‘what we want to do is take the tension that already exists in black communities and exasperate it where we can, maybe create situations if we need to, but take those situations where there’s a tinderbox and literally light the country on fire.’ What would be the issue? The issue would be police racism. Police brutality. This is back in the 1960s and early ’70s.” The former FBI official further explained what he believes BLM is really all about. "This is racism used as an issue to spark the revolution. It is meant and it is intended to be divisive and to divide the country.”https://www.westernjournal.com/watch-black-lives-matter-founder-admits-far-left-political-activist-trained-marxists/ Oh remember this BLM'er calling to burn the system down..Literally, and figuratively Is it any coincidence the statues vandalized usually have BLM written along with communist symbols. 1
EaglesRocker97 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, Swimm said: I think there are an uncomfortable amount of literal Marxists on the left, but it's still an extremely small (but vocal) minority. I think the "BLM" banner has largely outrgrown the nucleus of the movement, by which I mean, most people holding up signs that say "Black Lives Matter" are simply calling for equality. Beyond that, a lot of people on the left who find fault with the underlying structures of capitalism aren't necessarily endorsing Marxism. Most people are simply looking for a recalibration of sorts to break down structural inequality and break the stranglehold that a small elite have on the overall system. I think it's really oversimplifying things to say "Oh, well, Marx said this, so these people must be Marxist!" The problem with that is that you can simply look at things from a sociological perspective and recognize the same problems that Marx recognized, but it doesn't necessarily make you a Marxist. If the movement started openly embracing Marxism very vocally, I'm pretty sure it'd fall apart very rapidly. If anything, what you're seeing happening right now is that the original movement is being co-opted, which would actually be a good thing if you're opposed to Marxism, because it's getting watered down by a broader movement for reform.
binkybink77 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I think there are an uncomfortable amount of literal Marxists on the left, but it's still an extremely small (but vocal) minority. I think the "BLM" banner has largely outrgrown the nucleus of the movement, by which I mean, most people holding up signs that say "Black Lives Matter" are simply calling for equality. Beyond that, a lot of people on the left who find fault with the underlying structures of capitalism aren't necessarily endorsing Marxism. Most people are simply looking for a recalibration of sorts to break down structural inequality and break the stranglehold that a small elite have on the overall system. I think it's really oversimplifying things to say "Oh, well, Marx said this, so these people must be Marxist!" The problem with that is that you can simply look at things from a sociological perspective and recognize the same problems that Marx recognized, but it doesn't necessarily make you a Marxist. If the movement started openly embracing Marxism, I'm pretty sure it'd fall apart very rapidly. If anything, what you're seeing happening right now is that the original movement is being co-opted, which would actually be a good thing if you're opposed to Marxism, because what's happening right now is that its getting watered down by broader movement for reform. The founders of the organization Black Lives Matter are self identified Marxists. Just because a bunch of millennials run around chanting Black Lives Matter and posing for instagram photos of how they’re helping but don’t really understand what the organized movement that raises money embraces doesn’t mean it’s not problematic. In fact, that people don’t understand it IS problematic particularly when any opposition to the organization or their stated goals is met with mob driven hostility and accusations of racism. 2 1
EaglesRocker97 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: The founders of the organization Black Lives Matter are self identified Marxists. Just because a bunch of millennials run around chanting Black Lives Matter and posing for instagram photos of how they’re helping but don’t really understand what the organized movement that raises money embraces doesn’t mean it’s not problematic. In fact, that people don’t understand it IS problematic particularly when any opposition to the organization or their stated goals is met with mob driven hostility and accusations of racism. I don't think the founders have control of the movement anymore. It's become detached from the original organization. 1 1
Dave Moss Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 MLK Jr was accused of being an enemy of the U.S. and a communist. It’s been the same song and dance for a hundred years now. 1
lynched1 Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: MLK Jr was accused of being an enemy of the U.S. and a communist. It’s been the same song and dance for a hundred years now. ?
binkybink77 Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I don't think the founders have control of the movement anymore. It's become detached from the original organization. I don’t know what this is supposed to mean - do you think they are no longer involved in the organization? The one that raises money and speaks on behalf of them? I know you’re trying to separate the organization from the protestors but you really can’t - people are toppling statues and spraying BLM on them. BLM is the group that pushed this whole defund the police thing that is the current talking point. Until people in the movement vocally voice that they are not affiliated with BLM and stop using the BLM moniker they aren’t separate. 2
EaglesRocker97 Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, lynched1 said: ? Quote A newly released FBI analysis from 1968 paints this picture of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.: a "whole-hearted” communist who followed a "Marxist-Leninist line.” The 20-page document, dated March 12, three weeks before King was assassinated in Memphis, is included in the latest trove of government files about President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, which the National Archives released Friday. It alleges that King’s political ideologies and the creation of his civil rights organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, were heavily influenced by communists, specifically the Communist Party USA. The FBI document went into great detail about one of King’s most trusted advisers, Stanley Levison, a New York lawyer and businessman who served as a top financier for the Communist Party years before he met King in 1956. The document, titled "MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., A CURRENT ANALYSIS,” alleged that Levison had a strong influence on many of King’s activities as the leader of the civil rights movement, from what he said in his speeches and which demonstrations he took part in to where King’s group got its funding. David Garrow, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and historian who had written extensively about King, said much of the explosive allegations in the document are neither new nor true. "The number one thing I’ve learned in 40 years of doing this, is just because you see it in a top-secret document, just because someone had said it to the FBI, doesn’t mean it’s all accurate,” Garrow told The Washington Post, citing the infamous dossier that contains salacious allegations against President Trump. It’s no secret that the FBI used invasive surveillance operations throughout the 1960s to collect troves of information on King. Though the agency, then under the leadership of J. Edgar Hoover, had unearthed embarrassing and sensitive information about the civil rights leader’s personal life, it failed to find evidence of communist ties, Garrow said. More broadly, the newly released FBI document reveals more about the government’s preoccupation with the Communist Party USA, which by the 1960s had been reduced to a small, marginal group, Garrow said. It also says more about Hoover’s personal hostility against King, whom he had sought to publicly discredit. "I think the number one takeaway historically is how, even in March of 1968, the FBI continues to be bizarrely preoccupied with how important the Communist Party USA is. . . . The Communist Party, by 1968, is of no importance to anything,” Garrow said. "These incredibly exaggerated statements of communist influence are exactly what the FBI wants to hear.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/11/04/in-the-latest-jfk-files-the-fbis-ugly-analysis-on-martin-luther-king-jr-filled-with-falsehoods/ 1
Swimm Posted July 4, 2020 Author Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dave Moss said: MLK Jr was accused of being an enemy of the U.S. and a communist. It’s been the same song and dance for a hundred years now. Cause being accused is the exact same thing as openly admitting you are and detailing it in your mission statement.😑
Dave Moss Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Swimm said: Cause being accused is the exact same thing as openly admitting you are and detailing it in your mission statement.😑 Which part of the mission statement says they’re communists? Ain’t in there, chief. 1
NOTW Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 Swimm has a bumper sticker that says "ALL Lives Matter! Suck it, libtards!" 1 2
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