Walkdawalk Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 outside of the first quarter...the offense looked terrible. I get not risking injury in the preseason but honestly the offense looked slow and out of sync. I honestly thought NE should have won last night...they looked like the better team for 3 quarters. I'm just grateful for the 16 point lead and Jake Elliot. Hope they take it up a notch against the Vikings or the home crowd could be in for a long night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Offense looked rusty and shaky and that’s not really a surprise. Like you say they’ve not played in preseason and so it was always going to be sloppy. No excuses but they won on the road and we come out 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundAttack Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 A lot of these guys haven't played since the Super Bowl and also have a new OC but certain play calls in the game were just not necessary. Why run Hurts there late in the game where he fumbled it? Coaching wasn't at its best yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 minutes ago, GroundAttack said: A lot of these guys haven't played since the Super Bowl and also have a new OC but certain play calls in the game were just not necessary. Why run Hurts there late in the game where he fumbled it? Coaching wasn't at its best yesterday. Yeah that one made no sense. Out of an empty backfield you know he’s going to run it at that stage of the game. Now the fumble is on hurts no doubt but it was a strange play call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah that one made no sense. Out of an empty backfield you know he’s going to run it at that stage of the game. Now the fumble is on hurts no doubt but it was a strange play call. Coaching as a whole did not have a great game, but this would have been a good time to have Penny active. Maybe he could have grounded out at least three yards where Gainwell could only get one yard. It’s obvious that this team needs the run game to go in order to move and basically after the first drive Gainwell wasn’t getting it done. Far too many second and third and long situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 12 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Coaching as a whole did not have a great game, but this would have been a good time to have Penny active. Maybe he could have grounded out at least three yards where Gainwell could only get one yard. It’s obvious that this team needs the run game to go in order to move and basically after the first drive Gainwell wasn’t getting it done. Far too many second and third and long situations. Did they not activate him because he wasn’t healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Did they not activate him because he wasn’t healthy? No he was a healthy scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brkmsn Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, GroundAttack said: A lot of these guys haven't played since the Super Bowl and also have a new OC but certain play calls in the game were just not necessary. Why run Hurts there late in the game where he fumbled it? Coaching wasn't at its best yesterday. 59 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah that one made no sense. Out of an empty backfield you know he’s going to run it at that stage of the game. Now the fumble is on hurts no doubt but it was a strange play call. The fumble was unfortunate, but I have no problem with Hurts running it there. In fact, my problem with the offense was we seemed to be running the "injured shoulder Jalen" version of the offense for most of the game. Our offense in 2022 was designed around the threat of Hurts' running. A large portion of the running game was based off the read option. I'm not sure how much of yesterday's decisions were based on the rain, but we were clearly afraid to throw the football in the 1st half. With Hurts deciding to slide for losses and self-sack himself a couple times, we might as well have had Jim Everett out there. Thanks to the defense, we had a 16 point lead and the home crowd completely out of the game --- then 5 consecutive 3 and outs on offense. Our identity on offense last year was a team that had confidence and aggressively went out there and imposed our will. We didn't see that yesterday. We saw a team afraid to get hurt and afraid to take a chance or make a mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The Eagles leading rusher averaged less than 4 yards a carry. Hurts only averaged 4 yards a carry. The Eagles rushing game did not break one hundred yards. Only one carry for Swift and one for Scott. The Eagles could not use their run game to close this one out. I know at first glance people want to look at the quarterback, but I am looking a bit more concerned with the offensive line and the backs. The line was giving up a lot of pressure on Hurts, and they didn’t do a good job of getting to the next level on their run blocking. "The best line in football” did not look like it yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgcd3 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The offense will be fine. The talent is all there. It's a 17 game season so I understand not playing in the preseason. I'm really not sure one or two series 3 weeks ago would have made a difference anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Hurts was horrible yesterday. He didn't see wide open players and tried harder throws when easier ones were available. He was the most rusty out of anyone. I'm sure he will set it straight I have no doubts. Every year there are those games that you gotta "tough it out". Also I have a sneaky suspicion Hurts was sick, but I'm just guessing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, Walkdawalk said: outside of the first quarter...the offense looked terrible. I get not risking injury in the preseason but honestly the offense looked slow and out of sync. I honestly thought NE should have won last night...they looked like the better team for 3 quarters. I'm just grateful for the 16 point lead and Jake Elliot. Hope they take it up a notch against the Vikings or the home crowd could be in for a long night. You do realize that this was the same sentiment by many after the Detroit game last year. As long as they get the Ws the next 4 weeks and come out pretty healthy does it really matter what happened in the pre-season? A dub is a dub. I was saying the same thing to this board last year. It's a long season with 17 games and the playoffs. Marathon not a sprint. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 We are starting to see what a huge loss losing Shane Steichen is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 minutes ago, Procus said: We are starting to see what a huge loss losing Shane Steichen is. Why? Did Shane control Hurts? Hurts didn't see many wide open targets. Hurts made poor decisions. I'm checking this off to our 1st official pre season game. I am not worried about the performance from anyone. And it's way too early to come to any conclusions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMachine Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 33 minutes ago, Procus said: We are starting to see what a huge loss losing Shane Steichen is. ^This^ There seemed to be no plan with play calling, nothing set up anything else. No variablity at all. It was almost like this drive its all gainwell, another its all Devante, then AJ and so on. Zero creativity at all. DG wide open at least twice that I saw for sure TD's. There is a lot of rust to clean off. The starting field position as well over the game of Eagles vs Patrios was night and day. Guess that's how it goes when you can't manage a first down possesion after possesion. Lucky for sure to get the win. If not for the first quarter this game would have been a bad L for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weko Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Our new OC had a horrible game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwingOnThis Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Procus said: We are starting to see what a huge loss losing Shane Steichen is. Agreed. I just hope Johnson doesn't turn into the second coming of Mike Groh. Just because he was next in line to become OC, doesn't mean he'll be good at the job. And just because he knows Hurts well doesn't mean he has a feel for play calling and personnel grouping. Running Gainwell exclusively and not involving Swift early seemed questionable. No real rhythm to the playcalling. Hopefully it was more a product of a tricky NE defense. If they don't show out against a weak Minnesota defense, this could be a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 What did we get, one offensive TD? Technically the Patriots offense outscored ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, GreenMachine said: ^This^ There seemed to be no plan with play calling, nothing set up anything else. No variablity at all. It was almost like this drive its all gainwell, another its all Devante, then AJ and so on. Zero creativity at all. DG wide open at least twice that I saw for sure TD's. There is a lot of rust to clean off. The starting field position as well over the game of Eagles vs Patrios was night and day. Guess that's how it goes when you can't manage a first down possesion after possesion. Lucky for sure to get the win. If not for the first quarter this game would have been a bad L for sure. Bruh... it was Week 1 against a formidable defense in a monsoon for 1 half. Hurts wasn't seeing the field well as guys were pretty open all game. That's not so much an OC thing but more so a I haven't really played since the Super Bowl thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 58 minutes ago, SwingOnThis said: Agreed. I just hope Johnson doesn't turn into the second coming of Mike Groh. Just because he was next in line to become OC, doesn't mean he'll be good at the job. And just because he knows Hurts well doesn't mean he has a feel for play calling and personnel grouping. Running Gainwell exclusively and not involving Swift early seemed questionable. No real rhythm to the playcalling. Hopefully it was more a product of a tricky NE defense. If they don't show out against a weak Minnesota defense, this could be a problem. I'm giving them 5 weeks... then I'll panic :) We might be 4-0 by then though so the panic will probably be unwarranted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 It's only week 1, and unfortunately the new preseason schedule has teams resting starters. The Chiefs lost, Bengals and Giants got blown out, these are also playoff teams. Some problems and concerns to correct yes, but they were rusty week 1 against Detroit last year too. Fans are way too quick to judge something like Brian Johnson being the new OC. He was going against Belichek who is one of the best minds in the NFL ever. Let's see how he progresses in the upcoming games. Hurts was disappointing: he missed open receivers and seemed a little sluggish, even out of breath at times. The O line wasn't doing him any favors they were letting a lot of pressure get through. Short week with Thursday night game: everyone needs to tighten things up and reduce mistakes. Coaches made some bad calls too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, Portyansky said: Why? Did Shane control Hurts? Hurts didn't see many wide open targets. Hurts made poor decisions. I'm checking this off to our 1st official pre season game. I am not worried about the performance from anyone. And it's way too early to come to any conclusions. An OC doesn't "control" a player, but he influences the player. Just like losing Flip was huge for Wentz, we'll see that losing Steichen was a big loss for the offense. There's a tendency for a lot of people to live in denial when something like this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 A play that I absolutely hate and it seems like it almost never works: 3rd and long, WR screen or throw right at the LOS and expect him to go 8-9 yards for the 1st down. In theory if you have the right blocking it can work but it *seems* (maybe just my perception) that it almost never works and they have to punt. Plus they give it to Smitty instead of Brown or Goedert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 minutes ago, NOTW said: A play that I absolutely hate and it seems like it almost never works: 3rd and long, WR screen or throw right at the LOS and expect him to go 8-9 yards for the 1st down. In theory if you have the right blocking it can work but it *seems* (maybe just my perception) that it almost never works and they have to punt. Plus they give it to Smitty instead of Brown or Goedert. Playing it conservative with the lead. If they were behind I would guess they would do something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 9 hours ago, Procus said: An OC doesn't "control" a player, but he influences the player. Just like losing Flip was huge for Wentz, we'll see that losing Steichen was a big loss for the offense. There's a tendency for a lot of people to live in denial when something like this happens. Hurts didn't see many wide open players, Romo even showed a few. The play call was perfect on those scenarios, the execution was poor. Think the biggest tendency is a knee jerk reaction to the start of the race that's marathon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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