November 25, 20231 yr "we should believe the terrorists who take baby and grandma hostages and slaughter innocent people " -Dave Moss, probably
November 25, 20231 yr 26 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’ll paste the whole thing, cheapskate. I have a NY Times subscription. $8 a month I have alerted them to you breaching the terms of service fell right into my trap
November 25, 20231 yr Just now, Arthur Jackson said: I have alerted them to you breaching the terms of service fell right into my trap Ok, well I’ll just post the rest then
November 25, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: Ok, I’m only gonna post half the article. You guys getting triggered by a NY Times article is pathetic though. No one is getting triggered. They are just challenging information provided by Gazan sources, like the actors they dressed up as injured for propaganda purposes, and the fact that Hamas used their population as civilian shields -- a fact. No argument about the loss of human life as tragic in warfare. Here is the moral inequivalence you need to chew on. Hamas puts its headquarters and missile launching systems in civilian areas such as schools and hospitals. Israel responds by dropping leaflets and telling people to leave because the area is going to get bombed. They make an attempt to limit civilian casualties. Now turn it around. Hypothetically, Israel puts military command and control and weapons centers in hospitals and schools. Would Hamas give warning about a pending attack? No, they would say "Thank you very much for rounding everyone up it makes our genocide much more efficient. Bombs away!" You are trying to hold Israel accountable for actions that are a fact of war, a war that Hamas started and that Hamas wants to win in the court of ***** public opinion.
November 25, 20231 yr 29 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’ll paste the whole thing, cheapskate. I have a NY Times subscription. $8 a month FYI...
November 26, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Arthur Jackson said: Historic compared to what? I'm being serious. The history of war? Also, hit Chick has more gum than Wrigley’s.
November 26, 20231 yr https://12ft.io/ Are sites that can bypass sites, you don;t need to post everything
November 26, 20231 yr Author 10 hours ago, Next_Up said: Here is the moral inequivalence you need to chew Moss has chewed and determined the following - "Israel very bad, Hamas not bad".
November 26, 20231 yr Author Thank you @Dave Moss for sharing the NY Times article. Let's see what we learned. 1 - Gaza is very very densely populated. 2 - Gaza is filled with a large and intricate tunnel system under densely populated areas that Hamas has used to stage its military capabilities. 3 - Hamas has purposely put many of their facilities near/under large buildings housing a large number of civilians. 4 - Very heavy and destructive bombs are needed to destroy tunnel infrastructure. 5 - Israel has been using very heavy bombs in order to destroy Hamas infrastructure. The kind of bombs not normally used during conflict in heavily populated areas. 6 - A very large number of Palestinians have been killed. The number is unusually high as compared to other conflicts in the area during the last decades.
November 26, 20231 yr Support for Israel bad, Palestine good ? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12791487/Queens-Jewish-teacher-pro-Israel-rampage.html
November 26, 20231 yr 15 hours ago, Mike31mt said: "we should believe the terrorists who take baby and grandma hostages and slaughter innocent people " -Dave Moss, probably I always consider the source. That’s why I didn’t believe stuff like "Covid-19 is a media creation” or "I won the election.”
November 26, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I always consider the source. That’s why I didn’t believe stuff like "Covid-19 is a media creation” or "I won the election.” Oh you're gonna try to "but Trump!" your way out of supporting terrorists? You do you, Dave Moss
November 26, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: I always consider the source. That’s why I didn’t believe stuff like "Covid-19 is a media creation” or "I won the election.” As noted in the article you posted the sources for the information contained within are "Gazan Officials" The New York Times used to be a decent newspaper too. I would have no issue with the article you posted if The Times sourced it correctly. They are not alone in doing this either. Alot of media outlets are using the term "Gazan Officials" or "Palestinian Officials" as a source of info in their reporting. Just tell the truth! Correctly representing your sources is a pretty important part of discussing the news. In this case it is important to know that "OFFICIALS" in Gaza are in fact Hamas themselves. Not only are these numbers biased, they are a part of the massive international propaganda war that Hamas is currently undertaking. Its wildly irresponsible for media organizations to report things in this fashion. But it obviously not good for the narrative to say our info comes from "Hamas Officials" If the Media told the truth more people might believe their stories. For the record, this same thing happens in both left and right wing media in regards to spreading their narrative.
November 26, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, EagleFan85 said: As noted in the article you posted the sources for the information contained within are "Gazan Officials" The New York Times used to be a decent newspaper too. I would have no issue with the article you posted if The Times sourced it correctly. They are not alone in doing this either. Alot of media outlets are using the term "Gazan Officials" or "Palestinian Officials" as a source of info in their reporting. Just tell the truth! Correctly representing your sources is a pretty important part of discussing the news. In this case it is important to know that "OFFICIALS" in Gaza are in fact Hamas themselves. Not only are these numbers biased, they are a part of the massive international propaganda war that Hamas is currently undertaking. Its wildly irresponsible for media organizations to report things in this fashion. If the Media told the truth more people might believe their stories. For the record, this same thing happens in both left and right wing media in regards to spreading their narrative. Doesn’t it talk about those counts being verified by third parties in the article too?
November 26, 20231 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Doesn’t it talk about those counts being verified by third parties in the article too? Did they give any names of said third parties?
November 26, 20231 yr Author The article was pretty clear in explaining why the casualty numbers are so high. Hint: It isn't due to Israel targeting civilians.
November 26, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleFan85 said: Did they give any names of said third parties? Yes. I literally posted the whole article, my guy.
November 26, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: The article was pretty clear in explaining why the casualty numbers are so high. Hint: It isn't due to Israel targeting civilians. I read most of it and I saw that as well. The sourcing issue is bothersome though. It's pretty important to know who Gazan Health Officials are.
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