7 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Would be more accurate if they drew a bunch of women and children standing near the hive minding their own business getting stung as well. 

On 11/2/2023 at 9:56 AM, DEagle7 said:

Step 1: Palestinian government commits a heinous atrocity.  The vast majority of the western populus and government give full support to Israel in condemnation. 

Step 2: Israel begins a counter offensive in Gaza.

Step 3: Over the following months to years, further removed from the terrorist attack and with continued news of collateral damage from Israel's ongoing counter attacks, sympathy for the Palestinian people grows in the west.

Step 4: Return to Step 1.

Repeat forever

We're already at step 3, that was quick. 

6 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

We're already at step 3, that was quick. 

I think you are missing a step after Step 3.  You need to add one that describes the waning attention on the issue in the west.  That's the point where we move back to Step 1.

On 11/2/2023 at 9:56 AM, DEagle7 said:

Step 1: Palestinian government commits a heinous atrocity.  The vast majority of the western populus and government give full support to Israel in condemnation. 

Step 2: Israel begins a counter offensive in Gaza.

Step 3: Over the following months to years, further removed from the terrorist attack and with continued news of collateral damage from Israel's ongoing counter attacks, sympathy for the Palestinian people grows in the west.

Step 4: Return to Step 1.

Repeat forever

You are missing the step where far right Israelis continue to take land from the Palestinians. 
 

There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as there are religious fanatics, on all sides, who think that land belongs to them. 
 

"Religion poisons everything.”

2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

You are missing the step where far right Israelis continue to take land from the Palestinians. 
 

There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as there are religious fanatics, on all sides, who think that land belongs to them. 
 

"Religion poisons everything.”

Yeah it's less about religion and more about acknowledging one side obviously wants to eradicate the other from existence.

Keep blaming religion though, because that's your comfort zone.  Even got in the obligatory "far right" reference, as if it's "far right" to occupy land and defend yourself from genocide 

The funny thing about most religious based conflicts is that the religions involved are often so similar, they are virtually indistinguishable when the tenets are plainly listed and not attributed.

In this case...

One of the religions is:

Monotheistic

Believes in heaven and hell, angels and demons

Requires followers to pray multiple times a day

Has a star in the prominent religious imagery / symbolism, and found on all flags

Women are required to be modest and sexualization is strictly forbidden

Men are required to be circumcised

Eating pork is forbidden

 

And the other religion:

Literally all the same things as above

 

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The funny thing about most religious based conflicts is that the religions involved are often so similar, they are virtually indistinguishable when the tenets are plainly listed and not attributed.

In this case...

One of the religions is:

Monotheistic

Believes in heaven and hell, angels and demons

Requires followers to pray multiple times a day

Has a star in the prominent religious imagery / symbolism, and found on all flags

Women are required to be modest and sexualization is strictly forbidden

Men are required to be circumcised

Eating pork is forbidden

 

And the other religion:

Literally all the same things as above

 

im just glad to know that religion has nothing to do with this conflict. 

3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

im just glad to know that religion has nothing to do with this conflict. 

Likewise, being born and raised in West Virginia has nothing to do with how stupid he is. Just a random confidence, I guess.

4 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

You are missing the step where far right Israelis continue to take land from the Palestinians. 
 

There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as there are religious fanatics, on all sides, who think that land belongs to them. 
 

"Religion poisons everything.”

The point on settlements would be more impactful if any of those settlements were in Gaza, as opposed to the West Bank. Hamas, not the Palestinian Authority, attacked Israel and is now being dismantled. This had nothing to do with settlements. 

And before you have a stroke, I agree the settlements in the West Bank are bad policy and should be dismantled. But trying to tie them to Gaza is disingenuous. 

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres watched the IDF’s 47-minute documentary of Hamas atrocities screened as part of Jerusalem’s campaign for international support, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan confirmed on Wednesday.

Guterres watched the video in a private screening at UN headquarters after considerable pressure from Israeli officials, Channel 12 reported on Tuesday. Guterres had not attended previous screenings organized by Israeli officials at the UN, citing scheduling difficulties.

According to Erdan, Guterres said after watching the footage that the Hamas onslaught in southern Israel was "humanity at its worst. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uns-guterres-views-oct-7-hamas-massacre-film-said-to-call-it-humanity-at-its-worst/

Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

https://cpj.org/2023/12/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/

8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The funny thing about most religious based conflicts is that the religions involved are often so similar, they are virtually indistinguishable when the tenets are plainly listed and not attributed.

In this case...

One of the religions is:

Monotheistic

Believes in heaven and hell, angels and demons

Requires followers to pray multiple times a day

Has a star in the prominent religious imagery / symbolism, and found on all flags

Women are required to be modest and sexualization is strictly forbidden

Men are required to be circumcised

Eating pork is forbidden

 

And the other religion:

Literally all the same things as above

 

So stupid

8 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

im just glad to know that religion has nothing to do with this conflict. 

It has something to do with it obviously, but it's not the cause of the conflict as TNT implied.

8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Likewise, being born and raised in West Virginia has nothing to do with how stupid he is. Just a random confidence, I guess.

Tell us again how Gender Queer is the same as the Bible, you abject moron

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Tell us again how Gender Queer is the same as the Bible, you abject moron

I didn't say it was the same. I said it had explcit sexual references and stories about incest. Do you agree?

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So stupid

I agree, it is quite stupid that so much blood has been shed over such minute differences in religions. I feel like we're making real progress here.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I didn't say it was the same. I said it had explcit sexual references and stories about incest. Do you agree?

That's some of the dumbest ish I've read in here so congrats.  Why on earth you'd defend that ridiculous book being in schools by attacking the bible is insane. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I agree, it is quite stupid that so much blood has been shed over such minute differences in religions. I feel like we're making real progress here.

Minute differences??  Between Islam and Judaism?  Lol what

21 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

That's some of the dumbest ish I've read in here so congrats.  Why on earth you'd defend that ridiculous book being in schools by attacking the bible is insane. 

I didn't even mention Gender Queer in my post, but I did say the bible had clearly objectionable material in it as well, which it does. To be honest, I don't really care that much about what people are sworn in on, I'm just amused that you don't seem to be outraged about stories of incest. It's like you're tripping over yourself to reinforce that stereotype about rampant inbreeding in your own state. Hate to see it.

8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Minute differences??  Between Islam and Judaism?  Lol what

Oh ok, they're so far apart that the bloodshed is clearly justifiied then. You've proven my premise entirely false and I recant my previous statement. My sincerest of apologies.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I didn't even mention Gender Queer in my post, but I did say the bible had clearly objectionable material in it as well, which it does. To be honest, I don't really care that much about what people are sworn in on, I'm just amused that you don't seem to be outraged about stories of incest. It's like you're tripping overself to reinorce that stereotype about rampant inbreeding in your own state. Hate to see it.

You defended the book by attacking the bible you weirdo.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

You defended the book by attacking the bible you weirdo.

Oh ok, damn you caught me again. I just can't get one past you.

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh ok, they're so far apart that the bloodshed is clearly justifiied then. You've proven my premise entirely false and I recant my previous statement. My sincerest of apologies.

No no I say the same thing about lions and gazelles...so similar...hair, four legs, teeth, eyes....nearly indistinguishable.  Maybe one day theyll learn to get along.