December 21, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: I was in high school in the 90s, and that attitude really was rare. Everyone had that one friend with the cool parents. Everyone else viewed parents primarily as akin to a prison warden. My own parents were the enemy, and the goal was to get away with things. Then when you get in real trouble, get mom and dad to bail you out. And then prepare for the consequences. Not in my experience, it wasn't just one friend, it was pretty much all of them, and most of them got away with murder. Staying out past midnight, house parties, copping an attitude with their parents, a couple even got caught drinking and only got slaps on the wrist. A lot of it seemed to be chalked up to "what can you do, boys will be boys".
December 21, 20231 yr Not an American phenomenon either, it's par for the course in every culture in every century... Older people love to gripe about the entitled, lazy millennial generation. But it's nothing new – by delving into the archives, we found plenty of parallels stretching back 2,000 years. Millennials may be the world’s most hated generation – at the moment. But is disdain towards youth a new dynamic? By delving into the archives, we found that older people have been griping about young people for more than 2,000 years. Far more surprising is that, throughout the centuries, their criticisms have been remarkably similar. From complaints that the next generation are both too cautious and yet downright dangerous, too worried about the world and at the same time too self-absorbed to care, here are some of our favourites. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-people-have-always-complained-about-young-adults
December 21, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Not in my experience, it wasn't just one friend, it was pretty much all of them, and most of them got away with murder. Staying out past midnight, house parties, copping an attitude with their parents, a couple even got caught drinking and only got slaps on the wrist. A lot of it seemed to be chalked up to "what can you do, boys will be boys". When were you in HS?
December 21, 20231 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: late 90's Early 90s for me. I am the end of Gen X. You are the beginning of Millennial. I think we just proved my point?
December 21, 20231 yr 8 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Early 90s for me. I am the end of Gen X. You are the beginning of Millennial. I think we just proved my point? Yeah those 4 or 5 years really turned the world upside down. But if the author of that article in Time was no less right or wrong about the generation they were complaining about compared to the ones we hear about today, then maybe it's something about our perceptions of the world as we age just as much as it is about parenting styles or advances in technology.
December 21, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yeah those 4 or 5 years really turned the world upside down. But if the author of that article in Time was no less right or wrong about the generation they were complaining about compared to the ones we hear about today, then maybe it's something about our perceptions of the world as we age just as much as it is about parenting styles or advances in technology. Old people have always complained about the next generation. I concede that. But I think you are underestimating the impact of social media on the latest generation and its unique level of ignorance. It is completely different when your uninformed, adolescent and ridiculous opinions are encouraged as valid by both your parents and dozens or more on social media. We have basically perfected ignorance combined with confidence.
December 21, 20231 yr 14 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Old people have always complained about the next generation. I concede that. But I think you are underestimating the impact of social media on the latest generation and its unique level of ignorance. It is completely different when your uninformed, adolescent and ridiculous opinions are encouraged as valid by both your parents and dozens or more on social media. We have basically perfected ignorance combined with confidence. Unique? Perfected? Psh, wait until AI improves in the coming years.
December 22, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, vikas83 said: I was in high school in the 90s, and that attitude really was rare. Everyone had that one friend with the cool parents. Everyone else viewed parents primarily as akin to a prison warden. My own parents were the enemy, and the goal was to get away with things. Then when you get in real trouble, get mom and dad to bail you out. And then prepare for the consequences. You had the cops show up to your door too?
December 22, 20231 yr 28 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I blame MTV For not actually playing music anymore.
December 22, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yeah those 4 or 5 years really turned the world upside down. But if the author of that article in Time was no less right or wrong about the generation they were complaining about compared to the ones we hear about today, then maybe it's something about our perceptions of the world as we age just as much as it is about parenting styles or advances in technology. Fox News 1996
December 22, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, DEagle7 said: I blame MTV Oddly enough the "mtv generation" were also called latchkey kids because it was common for both parents to be working and kids were at home alone with nothing to do but watch countless hours of mtv, replete with all those dangerous rap lyrics and racy music videos that were corrupting our youth! That's why I feel like lazy or absentee parents, using whatever means at their disposal to avoid actually being present and taking an active role in their kids' lives, aren't exactly a new phenomenon.
December 22, 20231 yr 16 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's just it, I think it's always been the exception. I remember going to my friends house down the street, and his mom would put on a movie and that dude looked like he was suddenly in a trance. I could tell this was something routine in his house, but for me it was more of a novelty, like a once or twice a week type deal, not every night. Likewise, in high school, I was one of the only families I knew of that turned the TV off during dinner. maybe it was the area you grew up in, but the kid would've had the most popular house in my neighborhood because again, that kind of parenting was far from the norm. edit - growing up in the 70s-80s was certainly a different world.
December 22, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: maybe it was the area you grew up in, but the kid would've had the most popular house in my neighborhood because again, that kind of parenting was far from the norm. Yeah could be, that's why it's hard to make projections from anecdotal experiences, but as I mentioned, the vast majority of my friends had parents like that. I think in some cases, the parents were just lazy and uninterested, in others, it must have been how the parents grew up also, but I also think there was some guilt among some of them who were working a lot and felt bad about being too strict with their kids. Subjective experiences are open to interpretation, especially as the years pass. Don't know how you'd even go about gathering more objective info about it, but like I said before, it must have been common enough for that sentiment to be reflected almost verbatim in a Time magazine article written in 1990.
December 22, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Don't know how you'd even go about gathering more objective info about it Ask a boomer, we know all.
December 22, 20231 yr 11 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Oddly enough the "mtv generation" were also called latchkey kids because it was common for both parents to be working. I was pretty much a latchkey kid in the 70s. My mom stayed at home until I started first grade in 70, and I was on my own a lot after that.
December 22, 20231 yr I do think the level of access to technology now creates more helicopter parents than previous generations. Every door and window on my house has a sensor and I can see daily logs with timestamps everytime one is opened or closed. Six cameras, we can track my older daughter's location through her watch, geofencing apps for kids with phones, even cars can be set up to report driving habits to parents; it's crazy how little they can get away with compared to when we were younger.
December 22, 20231 yr You guys are missing the root of the issue. Kids these days are too focused on geopolitical issues. They need to go back to focusing on getting laid. Waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too much free time.
December 22, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: You guys are missing the root of the issue. Kids these days are too focused on geopolitical issues. They need to go back to focusing on getting laid. Waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too much free time.
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