January 15, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I’ve had posters in this thread tell me the folks in Gaza overwhelmingly support Hamas and that’s why they’re not completely innocent in all this. I’ve also had posters tell me that the folks in Gaza don’t like Hamas at all and that Israel is "helping out” by eliminating them. One thing I know is y’all gotta make up your damn minds… So.... eliminate Hamas yes or no?
January 15, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: So.... eliminate Hamas yes or no? He doesn't care about that
January 18, 20241 yr On 1/15/2024 at 8:29 AM, paco said: So.... eliminate Hamas yes or no? Depends on the context
January 18, 20241 yr On 1/14/2024 at 8:44 PM, DaEagles4Life said: Because the like to start **** and attempt to overthrow the hosting nations government. F em with sandpaper ****s and high priced munitions
January 19, 20241 yr https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/19/the-greatest-threat-to-the-survival-of-israel-is-the-american-progressive-movement/ The Greatest Threat to the Survival of Israel is the American Progressive Movement
January 19, 20241 yr Yea, not Hamas, or Hezbollah, or other fundamentalist sects in the region, it's a bunch of pink-haired college kids half-way across the globe that are the real threat to their survival. Good one.
January 19, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yea, not Hamas, or Hezbollah, or other fundamentalist sects in the region, it's a bunch of pink-haired college kids half-way across the globe that are the real threat to their survival. Good one. Ignorant remark. Israel has faced enemies since it re-emerged from the ashes in 1948. There were always countries who supported it and kept it afloat to keep the enemies at bay. Since 1973, the U.S. has seen to it that Israel is armed properly and defended in the U.N. Now, with the kooks in the Dem party (and I don't include you or other squad members in the EMB who have taken the side of Israel - which is appreciated), that support is in jeopardy. Should the UN decide to take action against Israel, or if its enemies continue to lash out - without the continued support of the U.S. - Israel's existence is in jeopardy
January 19, 20241 yr 40 minutes ago, Procus said: https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/19/the-greatest-threat-to-the-survival-of-israel-is-the-american-progressive-movement/ The Greatest Threat to the Survival of Israel is the American Progressive Movement The greatest threat to the survival of Ukraine is the American MAGA movement.
January 19, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Ignorant remark. Israel has faced enemies since it re-emerged from the ashes in 1948. There were always countries who supported it and kept it afloat to keep the enemies at bay. Since 1973, the U.S. has seen to it that Israel is armed properly and defended in the U.N. Now, with the kooks in the Dem party (and I don't include you or other squad members in the EMB who have taken the side of Israel - which is appreciated), that support is in jeopardy. Should the UN decide to take action against Israel, or if its enemies continue to lash out - without the continued support of the U.S. - Israel's existence is in jeopardy Nonsense. The US isn't going to suddenly abandon one of its closest and most important allies in the region anytime soon. But I do find it amusing that when Trump did it with the Kurds, you morons didn't say a peep, but now that you can score some political points by coming up with these right-wing fantasies, you're all about it.
January 19, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Nonsense. The US isn't going to suddenly abandon one of its closest and most important allies in the region anytime soon. But I do find it amusing that when Trump did it with the Kurds, you morons didn't say a peep, but now that you can score some political points by coming up with these right-wing fantasies, you're all about it. I agree that it was a mistake to abandon the Kurds
January 19, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Procus said: I agree that it was a mistake to abandon the Kurds Fair enough
January 19, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Procus said: I agree that it was a mistake to abandon the Kurds That's because you're a shill for Big Cottage Cheese
January 19, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: That's because you're a shill for Big Cottage Cheese You know nothing about my cottage cheese preferences
January 19, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: You know nothing about my cottage cheese preferences Is that the Chief's Fan kid?
January 19, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Nonsense. The US isn't going to suddenly abandon one of its closest and most important allies in the region anytime soon. But I do find it amusing that when Trump did it with the Kurds, you morons didn't say a peep, but now that you can score some political points by coming up with these right-wing fantasies, you're all about it. Anytime soon? No. But Gen Z and younger are basically anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian/Hamas. The polling on those under 30 is terrifying if you are Israeli. Hopefully they learn as they grow older, but...they've been indoctrinated in this oppressor/victim mindset their entire lives. It's not a fallacy to say that American support will dramatically decline when they take over positions to influence foreign policy.
January 19, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Anytime soon? No. But Gen Z and younger are basically anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian/Hamas. The polling on those under 30 is terrifying if you are Israeli. Hopefully they learn as they grow older, but...they've been indoctrinated in this oppressor/victim mindset their entire lives. It's not a fallacy to say that American support will dramatically decline when they take over positions to influence foreign policy. As we've discussed before, young kids are dumb for a reason. Most will eventually get old and become less dumb. Polling this same demo on a number of issues like UBI would yield similar results precisely beause they're dumb. I think it's fearmongering to claim we'd abandon Israel as an ally anytime in the next few decades because of leftist college kids being indoctrinated.
January 20, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, vikas83 said: Anytime soon? No. But Gen Z and younger are basically anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian/Hamas. The polling on those under 30 is terrifying if you are Israeli. Hopefully they learn as they grow older, but...they've been indoctrinated in this oppressor/victim mindset their entire lives. It's not a fallacy to say that American support will dramatically decline when they take over positions to influence foreign policy. 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: As we've discussed before, young kids are dumb for a reason. Most will eventually get old and become less dumb. Polling this same demo on a number of issues like UBI would yield similar results precisely beause they're dumb. I think it's fearmongering to claim we'd abandon Israel as an ally anytime in the next few decades because of leftist college kids being indoctrinated. I’d make the argument that leftist college kids are much more educated on the Israeli / Palestine issue than your average 40 or 50-year-old who is working a 9-to-5 and then comes home and watches Fox News or CNN for an hour.
January 20, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’d make the argument that leftist college kids are much more educated on the Israeli / Palestine issue than your average 40 or 50-year-old who is working a 9-to-5 and then comes home and watches Fox News or CNN for an hour. Everyone knows you'd argue that. Someone in their 40s is old enough to remember Yasser Arafat and the Intifadas, and leftist college students' comparative "education" on the matter is completely biased as has been demonstrated so obviously.
January 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: I’d make the argument that leftist college kids are much more educated on the Israeli / Palestine issue than your average 40 or 50-year-old who is working a 9-to-5 and then comes home and watches Fox News or CNN for an hour. Yes I’d take that bet and give 5:1 odds.
January 20, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: I’d make the argument that leftist college kids are much more educated on the Israeli / Palestine issue than your average 40 or 50-year-old who is working a 9-to-5 and then comes home and watches Fox News or CNN for an hour. No, not at all, bc they have clowns like you teaching them.
January 20, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Yes I’d take that bet and give 5:1 odds. What’s your 9 to 5? Just curious…
January 20, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: No, not at all, bc they have clowns like you teaching them. Maybe go check on your insects broseph
January 20, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Maybe go check on your insects broseph Keep trying, clown
January 20, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, vikas83 said: Anytime soon? No. But Gen Z and younger are basically anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian/Hamas. The polling on those under 30 is terrifying if you are Israeli. Hopefully they learn as they grow older, but...they've been indoctrinated in this oppressor/victim mindset their entire lives. It's not a fallacy to say that American support will dramatically decline when they take over positions to influence foreign policy. Boomers will be gone in 20 years, the religious right will be a much smaller percentage, and white Americans will be barely 50% of the population. Thats going to be a true challenge for Israel. On the other hand, AIPAC and the Saudis have a lot of pull, and the Jewish population will continue to be vastly overrepresented in elite circles. So they will still be influential, just less so.
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